Tuesday, August 8th 2017

Intel to Debut 8th Generation Core Family on August 21

On Aug. 21, Intel will unveil the 8th Generation Intel Core processor family on Facebook Live. Watch as two exciting moments align: the Great American Solar Eclipse and the unveiling of Intel's most powerful family of processors for the next era of computing. Hear from those who are at the center of creating this technology and from creators who are using the power of 8th Gen Intel Core technology in new and exciting ways.
Eight Reasons to Tune In
1. Don't be caught in the dark. Learn how the 8th Gen Intel Core processor family will offer blazing fast performance.
2. Hear directly from Gregory Bryant, senior vice president of the Client Computing Group at Intel, and others about the details on the latest processor family and what it can help you do.
3. Discover how immersive experiences will bring you from spectator to participant with 8th Gen Intel Core processor capabilities.
4. Don't just take our word for it. See the power of 8th Gen Intel Core technology come to life in the hands of a VR creator and imaging technologist.
5. Get a sneak peek at some of the amazing system designs based on 8th Gen Intel Core processors.
6. Start planning for what new 8th Gen Intel Core processor-based device to purchase in the holiday season and even before.
7. Don't worry, you won't miss the solar eclipse. Tune in before it descends upon Oregon and the West Coast and then makes its way across the U.S.
8. See how the 8th Gen Intel Core processor is designed for today and what comes next.

Watch the live-stream on 8 a.m. PDT, Aug. 21, 2017, here.
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124 Comments on Intel to Debut 8th Generation Core Family on August 21

#1
Manu_PT
Someone spreading hate on the topic in 3, 2, 1...
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#2
gdallsk
I bet Kaby Lake users feeling shafted after being replaced so soon...
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#3
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
gdallsk said:
I bet Kaby Lake users feeling shafted after being replaced so soon...
I mean this is just broadwell 4.0
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#4
birdie
gdallsk said:
I bet Kaby Lake users feeling shafted after being replaced so soon...
Only in the world of rabid AMD fanboys someone gets shafted. In this world anyone who buys anything produced by NVIDIA and Intel gets shafted automatically.

By this token there should be no progress at all.

By the same token companies should never release new slightly better products within 24 months after release.

By the same token people who strive for the highest performance, no matter the cost, are utter idiots (e.g. all those who have bought NVIDIA's Titans/Ti's or Intel's HEDT CPUs).

It's getting utterly ridiculous. Every news where Intel or NVIDIA gets mentioned turns into some holy war against these companies even when they release decent products at decent prices.

Could we please stop with that and instead discuss the actual products without this frantic fanboyism?

This final paragraph will probably draw a lot of flak but I'm gonna utter it anyways. Last but not least anyone who has replaced their working Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge/Haswell/SkyLake systems with equivalent (the same core/threads count) Kaby Lake CPUs is indeed an idiot unless the said person absolutely couldn't live without new platform features (NVMe/M.2/USB-C/etc.).
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#5
gdallsk
birdie said:
Only in the world of rabid AMD fanboys someone gets shafted. In this world anyone who buys anything produced by NVIDIA and Intel gets shafted automatically.

By this token there should be no progress at all.

By the same token companies should never release new slightly better products within 24 months after release.

By the same token people who strive for the highest performance, no matter the cost, are utter idiots (e.g. all those who have bought NVIDIA's Titans/Ti's or Intel's HEDT CPUs).

It's getting utterly ridiculous. Every news where Intel or NVIDIA gets mentioned turns into some holy war against these companies even when they release decent products at decent prices.

Could we please stop with that and instead discuss the actual products without this frantic fanboyism?
Okay there you go:

I wish Kaby Lake never existed.

Happy now?
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#6
Durvelle27
birdie said:
Only in the world of rabid AMD fanboys someone gets shafted. In this world anyone who buys anything produced by NVIDIA and Intel gets shafted automatically.

By this token there should be no progress at all.

By the same token companies should never release new slightly better products within 24 months after release.

By the same token people who strive for the highest performance, no matter the cost, are utter idiots (e.g. all those who have bought NVIDIA's Titans/Ti's or Intel's HEDT CPUs).

It's getting utterly ridiculous. Every news where Intel or NVIDIA gets mentioned turns into some holy war against these companies even when they release decent products at decent prices.

Could we please stop with that and instead discuss the actual products without this frantic fanboyism?

This final paragraph will probably draw a lot of flak but I'm gonna utter it anyways. Last but not least anyone who has replaced their working Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge/Haswell/SkyLake systems with equivalent (the same core/threads count) Kaby Lake CPUs is indeed an idiot unless the said person absolutely couldn't live without new platform features (NVMe/M.2/USB-C/etc.).
Because both Intel and Nvidia suck as companies
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#7
birdie
@btarunr

Why did you omit the link to the official press release?
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#8
Captain_Tom
cdawall said:
I mean this is just broadwell 4.0
Except the last version of broadwell (kabylake and Skylake-X) were actually slower than the previous gen due to thermal throttling lol.

Let's see if they can beat Broadwell after 2.5 years!!!
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#9
Chaitanya
I reckon it will be mobile CPUs first and desktop CPUs coming at CES or later(unless Intel decides to pull the release like Core-X and botch another product line).
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#10
Manu_PT
Manu_PT said:
Someone spreading hate on the topic in 3, 2, 1...
They didn´t even let me count from 3 to 1, started immediatly bashing Intel. I love the fact AMD is competitive again, but this recent hate towards Intel and nvidia on every article is getting ridiculous.
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#11
jabbadap
cdawall said:
I mean this is just broadwell 4.0
*Skylake 3.0. Broadwell was just die shrinked Haswell. All though bottom architechture is not greatly changed since Nahalem. But Intel marks Broadwell->Skylake change as arch change. So it's:
Skylake(arch 14nm)->Kaby(optimizations 14nm) ->Coffee Lake(Even more optimizations 14nm)->Cannon lake(Die shrinked coffee 10nm)->Icelake(New arch 10nm)
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#12
Bruno Vieira
cdawall said:
I mean this is just broadwell 4.0
You mean, sandy bridge 5.5?
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#13
evernessince
birdie said:
Only in the world of rabid AMD fanboys someone gets shafted. In this world anyone who buys anything produced by NVIDIA and Intel gets shafted automatically.

By this token there should be no progress at all.

By the same token companies should never release new slightly better products within 24 months after release.

By the same token people who strive for the highest performance, no matter the cost, are utter idiots (e.g. all those who have bought NVIDIA's Titans/Ti's or Intel's HEDT CPUs).

It's getting utterly ridiculous. Every news where Intel or NVIDIA gets mentioned turns into some holy war against these companies even when they release decent products at decent prices.

Could we please stop with that and instead discuss the actual products without this frantic fanboyism?

This final paragraph will probably draw a lot of flak but I'm gonna utter it anyways. Last but not least anyone who has replaced their working Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge/Haswell/SkyLake systems with equivalent (the same core/threads count) Kaby Lake CPUs is indeed an idiot unless the said person absolutely couldn't live without new platform features (NVMe/M.2/USB-C/etc.).
There are people like that but you are calling a shitstorm on yourself by generalizing people as fanboys.

Let's be forward here, the only Kaby Lake CPU that's worth it is the 7700k if you plan on overclocking it, to only play games, and only expect to get the best performance for a short period. In every other scenario, the 1700, 1700x, or 1800x is simply the better choice. If you already have a 2000 series Intel processor or better there is little reason to upgrade to kaby if you aren't increasing your core count.


"By the same token companies should never release new slightly better products within 24 months after release."

I believe Nvidia has released "the most powerful card in the world" within months of each other. It takes 9 months to tape out a card so they knew they had a more powerful card multiple time yet charged flagship price for each one. 1080 > Titan Xp > 1080 Ti. 980 > 980 Ti. The 980 Ti was the quickest drop, coming in within a month of the 980's release.

"By the same token people who strive for the highest performance, no matter the cost, are utter idiots (e.g. all those who have bought NVIDIA's Titans/Ti's or Intel's HEDT CPUs)."

I would say refer to the point above, where Nvidia and Intel are actually keeping their top end products from the customer. So in reality, to keep biting the carrot and buying the "fastest card or CPU" is quite dumb indeed because it's not really the fastest.
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#14
ppn
Changes nothing this year next year.. in 5 years, somebody will get shafted sooner or later. i7 is a bad stuttering mess as it is, threads help nothing. i5 accommodates up-to GTX 1060 the tragedy. AMd knew 1 year ago they were going to introduce cheaper products, they should have said something to stop Baby lake users from getting shafted, everybody is terrible complicit at lying.
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#15
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
jabbadap said:
*Skylake 3.0. Broadwell was just die shrinked Haswell. All though bottom architechture is not greatly changed since Nahalem. But Intel marks Broadwell->Skylake change as arch change. So it's:
Skylake(arch 14nm)->Kaby(optimizations 14nm) ->Coffee Lake(Even more optimizations 14nm)->Cannon lake(Die shrinked coffee 10nm)->Icelake(New arch 10nm)
I was being a bit facetious...
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#16
xkm1948
When was Kabylake released again? Things are moving fast!
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#17
ensabrenoir
ppn said:
Changes nothing this year next year.. in 5 years, somebody will get shafted sooner or later. i7 is a bad stuttering mess as it is, threads help nothing. i5 accommodates up-to GTX 1060 the tragedy. AMd knew 1 year ago they were going to introduce cheaper products, they should have said something to stop Baby lake users from getting shafted, everybody is terrible complicit at lying.
.....what?
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#18
jabbadap
cdawall said:
I was being a bit facetious...
Odd English word you have there, had to translate it. o_O

But yeah Broadwell was a different one, 65W tdp and iris pro igpus. Which makes me wonder will cannonlake be like that and Icelake is coming faster than it was first scheduled.
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#19
phanbuey
I wish they will announce the release date already. Gah.

The Kaby lake X crowd might get shafted though... basically anything that isnt a 7900x+ is about to be obsolete.
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#20
birdie
evernessince said:
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Companies do not force you to buy their products. You make this choice. You are free not to buy any NVIDIA or Intel product. You can blame only yourself for buying their stuff.

Also companies exist to extract profits from you, not to be your friend or benefactor.

It always looks like every AMD fan would love to live in communism yet I am sure as hell most, if not all of you will completely oppose this idea when given a choice.
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#21
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
jabbadap said:
Odd English word you have there, had to translate it. o_O

But yeah Broadwell was a different one, 65W tdp and iris pro igpus. Which makes me wonder will cannonlake be like that and Icelake is coming faster than it was first scheduled.
I imagine so. Those roadmaps are just a gist of what is ahead. AMD did shake things up for intel, which is good. lower performing or not they are not far behind now.
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#22
VSG
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birdie said:
@btarunr

Why did you omit the link to the official press release?
Press releases are sent out for distribution as-is, so the entire post is the source for this website. Other news posts derived from information elsewhere written by others merit a source.
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#23
PowerPC
Manu_PT said:
Someone spreading hate on the topic in 3, 2, 1...
Nobody is spreading hate. But buying Intel over AMD is just wrong right now, no matter for what. So what else are people going to talk about on a press release advertising Intel? About how wonderful they are doing?

Idk, maybe if I'd be a professional gamer and had an extra PC only just for gaming and nothing else, Intel would be a good fit. But anybody else who even just has Chrome open besides their game, would be much better off with AMD.
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#24
Cybrnook2002
xkm1948 said:
When was Kabylake released again? Things are moving fast!
Especially when your just tweaking one or two things and calling it a full launch. Can move at the speed of light then.

3XX series just seems to be re-badged 2XX series, but marks the introduction of the Xeon lineup into the mainstream branding.
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#25
Dimi
PowerPC said:
Nobody is spreading hate. But buying Intel over AMD is just wrong right now, no matter for what. So what else are people going to talk about in a post advertising Intel?
Stop with this annoying AMD religious hate preaching against Intel. What are you? Jehova's witness? Its becoming really annoying trying to find any constructive comments.

Whats next, you wanna start hanging people for using Intel cpu's? Should i be worried for wanting an i7 7820x?

BTW you couldn't PAY me to use AMD products ever again after getting screwed over TWICE by AMD products.
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