Friday, September 8th 2017

Intel Core "Coffee Lake" Desktop Processors Launch Date Revealed

Intel could launch the first wave of 8th generation Core "Coffee Lake" desktop processors in the retail channel, on the 5th of October, 2017. It's also becoming ominous that with increasing core counts across the lineup, Intel is also raising prices by anywhere between 12.5 to 25 percent. For example, the Core i7-8700K, which logically succeeds the $339 Core i7-7700K, could be priced upwards of $400. The i5-8600K, which succeeds the $249 i5-7600K, could be priced a little over $300. One can expect similar price-hikes across the board for other Core i5 six-core and Core i3 quad-core SKUs.

The first wave of 8th generation Core "Coffee Lake" desktop processor launches could be limited to certain overclocker-specific Core i7 and Core i5 SKUs. It is also launching just one compatible motherboard chipset option with this first wave, the Z370 Express, which supports CPU overclocking. Among the SKUs to look out for, are the top-dog Core i7-8700K six-core processor with HyperThreading enabling 12 threads, 12 MB of L3 cache; and the Core i5-8600K, which is also a six-core part but lacks HyperThreading, and comes with 9 MB of L3 cache.

Source: io-Tech.fi
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45 Comments on Intel Core "Coffee Lake" Desktop Processors Launch Date Revealed

#1
dwade
8700k will be such a beast.
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#2
Lionheart
I'm sure these will perform well but new mobo's required & CPU price hikes just because higher core count which should of happened years ago on this type of platform, not seeing the appeal tbh, but I'll await reviews for better judgement.
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#3
Flanker
I built my last desktop with E8400, sounds like I should build my next one with i5-8400 :P
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#4
Tomorrow
Lionheart said:
I'm sure these will perform well but new mobo's required & CPU price hikes just because higher core count which should of happened years ago on this type of platform, not seeing the appeal tbh, but I'll await reviews for better judgement.
8700K is reportedly going to cost roughly the same as 7700K. Wich is suprising from Intel but welcome nonetheless.

EDIT: nevermind. Always read the news before commenting...
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#5
phanbuey
These guys are still on top, technically... but if this is true they are letting AMD in very easily :wonder:

I'm about to put my tinfoil hat on here... but what if... Intel were just stringing us along...

what would that look like? would:
  • they sellthermal-pasted and glued together cpus which cost $1000+?
  • the competition come out with a faster CPU that no software was written for?
  • mysterious Jim Keller appear (and the dissappear) and the competitor's IPC came back just enough (a miraculous 50%)
  • this competitor be the only other company holding an x86 license that is still active in the space?
Would the new competing CPUs be bad at games, even though that competing manufacturer makes CPUs AND GPUs for the XBOX, and most of the games it's bad at are ports? Would there be a stock that went from $2 to $15 a share mysteriously in the span of 8 mos?

And then when intel could release a CPU that could again crush the market... would they mysteriously overprice it?

so... federal scrutiny < hobbled competitor?

* tinfoil crinkles * what if... intel... gave AMD... Zen?
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#6
punani
Ryzen 1600 (6C/12T) is 219€ in Finland atm, if intel has MSRP of 8800K at ~400$ it is sure to sell for >400€ in Finland .. I'm certain 8800K will be faster than the R5 1600, but at that price difference Intels offer is not tempting..
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#7
CandymanGR
punani said:
Ryzen 1600 (6C/12T) is 219€ in Finland atm, if intel has MSRP of 8800K at ~400$ it is sure to sell for >400€ in Finland .. I'm certain 8800K will be faster than the R5 1600, but at that price difference Intels offer is not tempting..
The same in Greece. The point is that if 8700K costs 400 euros, then you can also go for Ryzen 7 1700X.
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#8
3rold
Whoa, price increase. This is like the next cockblock from Intel. So they're basically offering less than Zen for higher price. Sounds familiar? These will ofc be beasts, but let's be honest. The next Zen iteration will come with higher clock speed than 4GHz making it obvious that the winner will be Zen 2. Plus it will come on the same AM4 socket. While Intel keeps changing their platform every 1-2 years. While some implementations are welcome, most of the time we get superfluous to no changes, just like this new Z370 chipset. Thr only significant change I can think of, if implemented would be Thunderbolt 3.
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#9
efikkan
CandymanGR said:
The same in Greece. The point is that if 8700K costs 400 euros, then you can also go for Ryzen 7 1700X.
i7-8700K will be trading blows with Ryzen 7 1800X ($500 MSRP, can be found lower). Six good cores will remain better than eight inferior cores in real workloads.
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#10
Laurijan
Nice cpus for sure but they should have added a memory channel already. Why dual channel for more than a decade?
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#11
efikkan
Laurijan said:
Nice cpus for sure but they should have added a memory channel already. Why dual channel for more than a decade?
The memory bandwidth have more than doubled, especially with XMP, so why is that a problem?
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#12
Laurijan
efikkan said:
The memory bandwidth have more than doubled, especially with XMP, so why is that a problem?
At least i want some bling bling coming after so many years. seriosly thinking about skylake-x next year then theres a deal
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#13
efikkan
Laurijan said:
At least i want some bling bling coming after so many years. seriosly thinking about skylake-x next year then theres a deal
This is the main stream/"value" platform, if you want something more then go for HEDT.
Intel is in fact upgrading the mainstream platform for the first time since Sandy Bridge, so there is no reason to complain.
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#14
noname00
CandymanGR said:
The same in Greece. The point is that if 8700K costs 400 euros, then you can also go for Ryzen 7 1700X.
If early rumours turn out to be true, the 8700k will be as fast as a 1800x in heavily threaded applications, and as fast (or faster) than a 7700k in single threaded applications. And that is a great deal for 350-400 price point
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#15
CandymanGR
efikkan said:
i7-8700K will be trading blows with Ryzen 7 1800X ($500 MSRP, can be found lower). Six good cores will remain better than eight inferior cores in real workloads.
Well, the 1700X in cinebench multi is... 50% faster than 7700K clocked at 5GHz! And it is faster in content creation, rendering, etc. than many high end intel chips of previous gen with 6c/12th.
So i dont think what you are saying is gonna happen unless intel offers something MUCH faster than previous gen. Ryzen is not FX.
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#16
CandymanGR
noname00 said:
If early rumours turn out to be true, the 8700k will be as fast as a 1800x in heavily threaded applications, and as fast (or faster) than a 7700k in single threaded applications. And that is a great deal for 350-400 price point
I don't like rumors. We will see soon enough what is what.
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#17
Tomorrow
punani said:
Ryzen 1600 (6C/12T) is 219€ in Finland atm, if intel has MSRP of 8800K at ~400$ it is sure to sell for >400€ in Finland .. I'm certain 8800K will be faster than the R5 1600, but at that price difference Intels offer is not tempting..
Well when compering core counts the competitor is R5 1600 however comparing the price and performance the compatitor (as it is with 7700K) is R7 1700. Both R7 and i7 go into high end gaming rigs (and R7 to streaming too) where as R5 i feel is going to bang for buck systems. In terms of USD > EUR i agree. Regardless of the current exchange rate that is always what we end up here in Europe (i'm from Estonia so pretty close to Finland geographically).
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#18
ZoneDymo
efikkan said:
i7-8700K will be trading blows with Ryzen 7 1800X ($500 MSRP, can be found lower). Six good cores will remain better than eight inferior cores in real workloads.
inferior cores... yeah alright.

Im going Ryzen next upgrade for sure
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#19
Vayra86
3rold said:
Whoa, price increase. This is like the next cockblock from Intel. So they're basically offering less than Zen for higher price. Sounds familiar? These will ofc be beasts, but let's be honest. The next Zen iteration will come with higher clock speed than 4GHz making it obvious that the winner will be Zen 2. Plus it will come on the same AM4 socket. While Intel keeps changing their platform every 1-2 years. While some implementations are welcome, most of the time we get superfluous to no changes, just like this new Z370 chipset. Thr only significant change I can think of, if implemented would be Thunderbolt 3.
Just like it was 'obvious' that Ryzen was going to 'crush' Intel's offerings?

Seeing is believing, so far, I'm not seeing any Zen 2 on the horizon, just wishful thinking that it'll OC well.
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#20
noname00
CandymanGR said:
I don't like rumors. We will see soon enough what is what.
Well, it's all about how the cores work together. Per core performance will probably be similar to 7700k (if not better), and there are not many applications where the 1800x is more than 40-50% faster than a 7700k. It's pretty safe to assume a 40-50% performance increase threaded applications (rendering and encoding, to be more precise).
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#21
Tsukiyomi91
From pricing estimate, these chips will have similar or slightly higher asking price compared to Kaby Lake... the i7-8700K looks tempting though... 6C, 12T, 4.3GHz boost on all cores, 4.7GHz boost on single core & 95W TDP. Will wait for consumer reviews against AMD's RyZen chips & see how it fares. Leaks & "slides" are no longer relevant for most of us anyways.
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#22
The Quim Reaper
ZoneDymo said:
inferior cores... yeah alright.
Well they are 'inferior' to Intel cores, that's a known fact in both attainable clock speeds and per core IPC.

Combine the 15-20% extra GHZ (4Ghz Ryzen vs a likely 4.4-4.8GHz Intel) with Intel's 10-12% IPC advantage and an 8700K is likely to come very,very close to 1700/1800 levels of multi-threaded performance despite the 25% reduction in available core/thread count.
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#23
Tsukiyomi91
@The Quim Reaper Intel is all about high efficiency workload per core, after all... which is something AMD is greatly lacking in their processors.
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#24
RejZoR
Tsukiyomi91 said:
@The Quim Reaper Intel is all about high efficiency workload per core, after all... which is something AMD is greatly lacking in their processors.
And what is that "high efficiency workload per core"? We used to call that IPC...
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#25
SARVAMANGALAM
LOL .. just skip all this from intel.
msi x370 gamming plus + i buy cheap ryzen1700 with amd W.cooler 363 usd. can work on some cheaper b350 mobo also for 88 usd.. and i push that cheap 1700 on 3500 mhz. work great on 100% load 27/7/365 with max 90C.. depend on room temperature. gamers and easy users can go higher maybe 3700.. without NO more money to cpu cooler to keep budget cheap and strong on pc power
and i have 16 threads cheap but strong pc .
really intel will need years to make new arch. to get over amd.. we see this just now when we have wait for "flag ship" 18 core to...?
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