Wednesday, September 27th 2017
GIGABYTE Has No Plans to Release a Custom Radeon RX Vega 64
In what might be shocking news to AMD fans, GIGABYTE has stated that there are no current plans to make a custom Radeon RX Vega 64. This might change in the future. But for now, early Vega 64 adopters have no choice but to settle for the reference design or or custom design cards coming out from other vendors. There is still a light hope for the Vega 56 though, since GIGABYTE didn't discard the possibility of releasing a RX Vega 56 Gaming G1. However, the actual number of units is still unclear considering that GIGABYTE is unable to start production immediately due to various technical difficulties surrounding Vega.
Due to the inconsistency in quality of chips that AMD are providing, AIB partners are having a difficult time establishing a standard GPU frequency for their factory-overclocked cards. Furthermore, temperature reporting is broken. The actual GPU temperature is different from the temperature reported by the GPU which can become a big problem for stability in the long run. And to top it all off, there are three different Vega 10 GPU packages floating around. The molded package consists of the GPU and HBM dies sharing the same height, while there's a 40 μm height difference between them in the unmolded package. Although it seems insignificant, this small difference prevents manufacturers from standardizing a single heatsink design to accommodate all three GPU packages.
Sources:
Tom's Hardware (De), Tom's Hardware
Due to the inconsistency in quality of chips that AMD are providing, AIB partners are having a difficult time establishing a standard GPU frequency for their factory-overclocked cards. Furthermore, temperature reporting is broken. The actual GPU temperature is different from the temperature reported by the GPU which can become a big problem for stability in the long run. And to top it all off, there are three different Vega 10 GPU packages floating around. The molded package consists of the GPU and HBM dies sharing the same height, while there's a 40 μm height difference between them in the unmolded package. Although it seems insignificant, this small difference prevents manufacturers from standardizing a single heatsink design to accommodate all three GPU packages.
36 Comments on GIGABYTE Has No Plans to Release a Custom Radeon RX Vega 64
XFX and Sapphire all day when it comes to AMD
Neither belong on the mobo.
AMD is fulfills the Apple contract to supply Vega for the end of year release of iMac. Just like why the Tonga XT never showed, or then a 380X was not brought in until late. AMD is working to supply the corporate custom clients first, it provides for a known ROI to the bottom line and their year end.
Not to say there may well be HBM2 memory supply issues, I'm just not sure anyone can make a clear call as GloFo production or yield/issues. Probable both and then logistical problems with scheduling from interposer subcontractor getting the silicone and memory IC supplies to line-up together. Then still off to the AIB that builds Vega on to a board for Apple. All the other AIB just have to get in line.
videocardz.com/72173/there-are-at-least-three-variants-of-vega-10-gpu-packages
www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-vega-package-problem,35281.html
- Resinless made in South Korea RX Vega 56 SK Hynix HBM2 = Actual first/new Interposer supplier and I believe they dropped this company.
- Resinless made in Taiwan for engineering boards (probably SK Hynix HBM2) = Reference production cards
As the to HBM2 height not sure if it both Samsung/Hynix, but yes there are picture on the web like guru3d.com and that Asus RX Vega 64. Not sure what and which models had the issue and if what that really did to heat control of the HBM2.
On the topic : If there was one company from which I heard most complaints about this generation , it is Gigabyte.
Apples iMac Pro is at the top of the pecking orderThat's what i got from his post
AIB partners have taken note of this and have come to the same conclusion I have. It's a fucking nightmare and I don't blame them for not wanting to touch it with a 10' pole. It disgusting. Just thinking about it makes my head hurt and my stomach churn. I was actually considering buying one until I found this out.
Though, like I said, I probably would still buy one if I could know 100% for sure ahead of time it wasn't one with the GPU die/HBM height mismatch. I'm most certainly not having that. And I don't know why anyone would. Given the fact they all aren't like that. And the ones that are don't need to be. AMD could have made sure of that. But they're obviously a bunch of careless, penny-pinching, asshole idiots...frankly. "Let's make them all different so we can't provide the customers with a consistent product, and piss off our AIB partners by making their jobs way more difficult than necessary". Really? FU AMD!
As if AMD with Vega were the first ones to use multiple suppliers for components such as memory or by having multiple package versions. To me this sounds like a ridiculous level of nitpicking. Nvidia quietly changed the supplier for memory modules on their 1070s after every reviewer got the ones with Samsung chips that overclocked far better and it pretty much went under the radar , a few angry customers here and there but overall it's chill . The good ol' double standard.
But sure call them penny-pinching assholes , whatever floats your boat or makes you more comfortable with your next purchases , we all do it I suppose.
loving the asus strix coolers on my 1070 oc's like a boss