Monday, April 23rd 2018

Six First-Generation AMD Ryzen Processor Models Reach EOL

With the April 19 introduction of four new second-generation Ryzen "Pinnacle Ridge" desktop processor SKUs, namely the 2700X, 2700, 2600X, and 2600; AMD is retiring six first-generation "Summit Ridge" SKUs from its lineup, according to a Guru3D report. Six SKUs have been marked EOL (end of life), meaning retailers can no longer order them from AMD. They can sell their remaining inventory, and AMD will honor full product warranties and aftersales support, to end users.

Among the retired SKUs are the previous-generation flagship Ryzen 7 1800X, 1700X, and 1700 (non-X); Ryzen 5 1600X, 1400, and the Ryzen 3 1200. As revealed in its product stack slide, the 2700X currently replaces both the 1800X and 1700X as the "8-core high performance" SKU, followed by the 2700 as the "8-core high efficiency" SKU, which replaces the 1700. The 2600X and 2600 succeed the 1600X and 1600, respectively. The Ryzen 5 1400 finds itself replaced by the GPU-equipped Ryzen 5 2400G "Raven Ridge" APU, and the entry-level Ryzen 3 1200 by the sub-$100 Ryzen 3 2200G. The table below reveals the updates prices of first-generation SKUs still in the product stack.
Source: Guru3D
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22 Comments on Six First-Generation AMD Ryzen Processor Models Reach EOL

#1
theonek
Well, a PC built 3 month ago and it's already old? Well done AMD....
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#2
Solidstate89
theonek, post: 3832575, member: 98094"
Well, a PC built 3 month ago and it's already old? Well done AMD....
Built 3 months ago with parts released a year ago and just hit a refresh. I don't even get what your point is. It's not like your components are no longer covered by the factory warranty or all of a sudden lose all support fixes or anything.
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#3
B-Real
theonek, post: 3832575, member: 98094"
Well, a PC built 3 month ago and it's already old? Well done AMD....
What's the problem? You get the 3 year warranty, you get it for a very well positioned price.
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#4
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
B-Real, post: 3832584, member: 170068"
What's the problem? You get the 3 year warranty, you get it for a very well positioned price.
Yeah it just means if they have no more gen 1 stock he would get a Ryzen+ or Gen 2 part that would still work.

I think he did not read the whole article and is just being ignorant.
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#5
Moofachuka
theonek, post: 3832575, member: 98094"
Well, a PC built 3 month ago and it's already old? Well done AMD....
Think before posting... Lol...
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#6
Imsochobo
Moofachuka, post: 3832630, member: 46319"
Think before posting... Lol...
it's an I7 4770K owner, he can still buy his cpu new for 350$ so it's not old yet :)
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#7
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
Imsochobo, post: 3832655, member: 66457"
it's an I7 4770K owner, he can still buy his cpu new for 350$ so it's not old yet :)
So was he just being a troll or what?
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#8
kastriot
Well good thing you can sell 1st gen and get +ver or wait for ryzen 2, both sides win.
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#9
iO
Makes sense to EoL them as quick as possible if you consider how much cheaper they are compared to current Zen+ prices
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#10
bug
Seems kinda abrupt, but honestly, who would buy 1st gen with 2nd gen out with slightly higher clocks for roughly the same price?
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#11
theonek
My point was that AMD i don't remember any time that they have to retire an almost whole cpu family so fast! And I had spoken right - many people have just updated their pc's around the big chistmas holidays, and now four months later amd says no more gen1 cpu's. This I mean that was fast, a several months later they retire it such it is an 10 years old platform already!
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#12
coonbro
theonek, post: 3832575, member: 98094"
Well, a PC built 3 month ago and it's already old? Well done AMD....
get use to it that's how they want it . [all hardware vendors ] then add that malware service windows 10 on top . support on the fly and if 2-3 years old look for support dropped . you'll buy there latest stuff or its not going to fully work anymore . the good ol'days of solid long support are looking to be long gone today they want fad service eol, drop support makes you need to buy faster ..see ? ....lol.... pc building become a joke
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#13
Shamalamadingdong
theonek, post: 3832763, member: 98094"
My point was that AMD i don't remember any time that they have to retire an almost whole cpu family so fast! And I had spoken right - many people have just updated their pc's around the big chistmas holidays, and now four months later amd says no more gen1 cpu's. This I mean that was fast, a several months later they retire it such it is an 10 years old platform already!
It's retired because it's pointless to keep selling SKUs that have been replaced. There is nothing to be gained by anyone by continuing to produce and sell an old product. It's unnecessary. It's like buying Skylake when Kaby Lake is out: why would you do that?
coonbro, post: 3832765, member: 178073"
get use to it that's how they want it . [all hardware vendors ] then add that malware service windows 10 on top . support on the fly and if 2-3 years old look for support dropped . you'll buy there latest stuff or its not going to fully work anymore . the good ol'days of solid long support are looking to be long gone today they want fad service eol, drop support makes you need to buy faster ..see ? ....lol.... pc building become a joke
Support isn't dropped. The article states that pretty clearly. Your whole comment is moot. The only thing changing is that they'll stop production since it's silly to keep producing a product that has been replaced.
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#14
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
theonek, post: 3832763, member: 98094"
My point was that AMD i don't remember any time that they have to retire an almost whole cpu family so fast! And I had spoken right - many people have just updated their pc's around the big chistmas holidays, and now four months later amd says no more gen1 cpu's. This I mean that was fast, a several months later they retire it such it is an 10 years old platform already!
Dude if the part fails in 3 year warranty you get a Ryzen Plus Under Warranty.

If you don't like it, sell the parts here to who would be more greatful to receive them.
Who gripes about getting an upgrade anyway?

coonbro, post: 3832765, member: 178073"
get use to it that's how they want it . [all hardware vendors ] then add that malware service windows 10 on top . support on the fly and if 2-3 years old look for support dropped . you'll buy there latest stuff or its not going to fully work anymore . the good ol'days of solid long support are looking to be long gone today they want fad service eol, drop support makes you need to buy faster ..see ? ....lol.... pc building become a joke
Buy a console will ya
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#15
windwhirl
theonek, post: 3832763, member: 98094"
My point was that AMD i don't remember any time that they have to retire an almost whole cpu family so fast! And I had spoken right - many people have just updated their pc's around the big chistmas holidays, and now four months later amd says no more gen1 cpu's. This I mean that was fast, a several months later they retire it such it is an 10 years old platform already!
It mostly means that you won't be able to order any more of those CPUs. You will probably get microcode updates and the like for a few years still.

It's not clear to me, however, if the Ryzen Pro counterparts are being EOL-ed as well. I suppose not, since they probably have different SKUs and there are no Ryzen 2xxx Pro yet. The Ryzen Pro CPUs are the only ones that really make sense to keep producing, since they are targeted at businesses, which may need to keep systems with very specific specs around for years. Anyone outside that market will probably prefer the refreshed processors.
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#16
Zenskas
theonek, post: 3832763, member: 98094"
My point was that AMD i don't remember any time that they have to retire an almost whole cpu family so fast! And I had spoken right - many people have just updated their pc's around the big chistmas holidays, and now four months later amd says no more gen1 cpu's. This I mean that was fast, a several months later they retire it such it is an 10 years old platform already!
Sorry but what a load of bull. I see some poorly thought out opinions posted on this site but this one is most interesting.
Let me get this straight; you think that AMD stopping production and sales on first gen Ryzen parts is a no-no? Because it's too soon or??? Are you having a laugh? Give me one reason they should continue to manufacture and sell a previous generation of products, which has been replaced entirely with faster, more efficient chips at a similar cost? Why would they do that...when all 2nd gen Ryzen CPU's are a drop in upgrade and fully compatible with the original and existing Ryzen motherboards? First gen boards just need a BIOS update to support second gen CPU, and first gen CPUs drop into second gen boards too! We knew second gen chips were coming ages ago, and if you bought a first gen one late last year you no doubt paid less than the original launch RRP as a bonus.

Nothing has been retired, aside from some fully redundant products. Ryzen as a platform is going strong. Everything goes on as normal but now the shelves are lined with slightly faster, more matured chips that are 100% backwards and forwards compatible with any socket AM4 board, as is any first gen chip someone bought over the xmas holidays...

coonbro, post: 3832765, member: 178073"
get use to it that's how they want it . [all hardware vendors ] then add that malware service windows 10 on top . support on the fly and if 2-3 years old look for support dropped . you'll buy there latest stuff or its not going to fully work anymore . the good ol'days of solid long support are looking to be long gone today they want fad service eol, drop support makes you need to buy faster ..see ? ....lol.... pc building become a joke
Ahh so AMD release better chips that clearly replace their first gen lineup dollar for dollar, and I reiterate that after a BIOS update both second and first gen Ryzen chips are 100% compatible with all existing and new gen AM4 boards, and now PC building is becoming a joke? Why? Because a company wants to release some all round better products to bring even more competition to both Intel and their existing products? What a joke aye!!


Where the heck where all of you poorly educated people every 1-2 years when Intel release a new CPU that actually ISN'T backwards compatible with existing boards and sockets?
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#17
Solidstate89
windwhirl, post: 3832782, member: 175818"
It mostly means that you won't be able to order any more of those CPUs. You will probably get microcode updates and the like for a few years still.

It's not clear to me, however, if the Ryzen Pro counterparts are being EOL-ed as well. I suppose not, since they probably have different SKUs and there are no Ryzen 2xxx Pro yet. The Ryzen Pro CPUs are the only ones that really make sense to keep producing, since they are targeted at businesses, which may need to keep systems with very specific specs around for years. Anyone outside that market will probably prefer the refreshed processors.
Ryzen Pro and Ryzen Threadripper gen-1 SKUs will probably be EOL'd as their replacements come to market.
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#18
ghazi
windwhirl, post: 3832782, member: 175818"
It mostly means that you won't be able to order any more of those CPUs. You will probably get microcode updates and the like for a few years still.

It's not clear to me, however, if the Ryzen Pro counterparts are being EOL-ed as well. I suppose not, since they probably have different SKUs and there are no Ryzen 2xxx Pro yet. The Ryzen Pro CPUs are the only ones that really make sense to keep producing, since they are targeted at businesses, which may need to keep systems with very specific specs around for years. Anyone outside that market will probably prefer the refreshed processors.
AMD guaranteed that Ryzen Pro CPUs will be available for a minimum of two years after launch.

theonek, post: 3832763, member: 98094"
My point was that AMD i don't remember any time that they have to retire an almost whole cpu family so fast! And I had spoken right - many people have just updated their pc's around the big chistmas holidays, and now four months later amd says no more gen1 cpu's. This I mean that was fast, a several months later they retire it such it is an 10 years old platform already!
What on earth are you talking about? Ryzen has been out for over a year, they had to replace it eventually, better sooner rather than later -- why would AMD continue to manufacture previous generation CPUs? How does the fact that a new generation is out impact the quality or performance of your CPU? You think they're dropping support or something? Not to mention that you specifically used the word "platform" when both iterations of Zen currently available as well as the coming generation next year all use the same platform -- assuming you get a BIOS update, you can throw a 7nm Zen 2 chip into your motherboard if you want to next year.
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#19
Vya Domus
theonek, post: 3832763, member: 98094"
My point was that AMD i don't remember any time that they have to retire an almost whole cpu family so fast! And I had spoken right - many people have just updated their pc's around the big chistmas holidays, and now four months later amd says no more gen1 cpu's. This I mean that was fast, a several months later they retire it such it is an 10 years old platform already!
And your issue with this is precisely what ?
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#20
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
theonek, post: 3832763, member: 98094"
My point was that AMD i don't remember any time that they have to retire an almost whole cpu family so fast! And I had spoken right - many people have just updated their pc's around the big chistmas holidays, and now four months later amd says no more gen1 cpu's. This I mean that was fast, a several months later they retire it such it is an 10 years old platform already!
I’m not sure what the problem is? It’s performance stays the same. Those who bought it still have warranty. Those that didn’t buy it in time can now go buy a better product, or buy the first ones cheaper on the used market.

And, technology gets advanced, also keeping Intel on its toes. Sounds like a Win all the way around!
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#21
bug
It is indeed unusual for a CPU to have shelf life of ~1yr. But it would be downright weird to offer the discontinued models alongside the new ones. Nobody would buy them and it'd be just logistics overhead (not to mention jeeping fabs unnecessarily busy).
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#22
ensabrenoir
Dude says:
theonek, post: 3832575, member: 98094"
Well, a PC built 3 month ago and it's already old? Well done AMD....
..........in an AMD thread and.........
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