Friday, September 28th 2018

Intel Processor Supply Issues to Persist Till 2H-2019: Compal President

In a statement that could refute speculation that Intel processors are in short-supply because the company is allocating its fabs for 9th generation processor launch, Compal President Martin Wong stated that supply issues with Intel processors could go on till the second half of 2019 (at least 9 more months). The issues threaten to undermine worldwide notebook shipments, he added. Compal is a major Taiwan-based notebook ODM and whitebox electronics manufacturer that supplies to major notebook brands.

Wong is miffed that Intel hasn't provided any clear schedule for restoration of supply normalcy. Intel responded that it is "cooperating closely" with its partners to manage the extra orders, and that supply priority will be given to Xeon and Core processors, including Core brand extensions "U-series" (ultraportable) and "Y-series" (ultra low-power).
Source: DigiTimes
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22 Comments on Intel Processor Supply Issues to Persist Till 2H-2019: Compal President

#1
Smartcom5
Our daily bad news regarding Intel give us today …
I wonder how much difficulties OEMs will have picking up AMD-parts instead.
Wow Intel, just wow … How on earth you fucked things up like that?

How stupid is it to even refuse telling how long the shortage will take?!
Is that another dumb attempt in outdoing competitors, like „If we won't tell them how long it takes until we can supply in any numbers again, they will clearly not go for AMD. So let's do 'dis!“, or what?!

Did karma actually bought a Itanium CPU back then? A Larrabee-card by any chance? Or some Optane SSDs? What a bitch!
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#2
Indra18
Smartcom5
Our daily bad news regarding Intel give us …
I wonder how much difficulties OEMs will have picking up AMD-parts instead.
Wow Intel, just wow … How on earth you fucked things up like that?

Did karma actually bought a Itanium CPU back then? A Larrabee-card by any chance? Or some Optane SSDs? What

in real world must by trully news only.. now you will see only "bad news" about intel..)) fake news spreading us congreSS and rabi donald)) leave them in politics and speak only true here.
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#3
Vayra86
Maybe now all those Intel-drunk companies can open their eyes a bit and try a new brew. The option exists and its viable too.
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#4
Hood
Vayra86
Maybe now all those Intel-drunk companies can open their eyes a bit and try a new brew. The option exists and its viable too.
Which companies are you referring to, and what option are you espousing? You mean AMD? How original of you! Next you'll be recommending we all "upgrade" to Vega. Somehow I don't think anyone is waiting for you to tell them what their options are. Personally, I would wait 3 years for Intel before I would ever by any AMD product. It doesn't help that every AMD fan has to pick up his toy bullhorn and announce obvious crap like this, and think they're doing AMD a favor.
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#5
TheLostSwede
Hood
Which companies are you referring to, and what option are you espousing? You mean AMD? How original of you! Next you'll be recommending we all "upgrade" to Vega. Somehow I don't think anyone is waiting for you to tell them what their options are. Personally, I would wait 3 years for Intel before I would ever by any AMD product. It doesn't help that every AMD fan has to pick up his toy bullhorn and announce obvious crap like this, and think they're doing AMD a favor.
Don't take this the wrong way, but you seem quite uneducated, at least judging by your spelling, so maybe this is why you're such a fan boy/girl?
Besides, there was no mention of AMD whatsoever.
A lot of things are moving towards ARM, we're even seeing ARM powered notebooks and apparently the stuff Qualcomm is about to launch is said to be competitive with Intel's Y-series of processors.
But please, go ahead and make angry fan boy/girl accusations based on nothing, it makes you look totally sane...
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#6
Smartcom5
Vayra86
Maybe now all those Intel-drunk companies can open their eyes a bit and try a new brew. The option exists and its viable too.
Nah, Intel will just pay them not to do so with all their earning from their brand new 9th Generation's profits – they'll be fine and stay with Big blue™ I guess. … oh, wait!
There ain't any greater profits they get now anymore, since they ain't able to ship such chips in volumes to earn given high-profit margins to shadily pay their OEMs to stay with them in the first place!

It's a catch-22, isn't it?
On one hand Intel have has always being the almighty giant, being able to outbuy every OEM and/or market due to their vastly high-profit margins and thus their sheer inexhaustible pockets. Now AMD cut their earnings big times by competing with a virtually identical product (performance-wise) while being sold by a way smaller price. AMD did so in an attempt to aggressively gain market-share quickly (which seems to work pretty decent though …). Stupidly enough and despite literally every analyst advised against it, Intel actually did try the dumbest thing they've could do in that situation, ever – and that's trying to compete with AMD upon price-level and -structure. So Intel. with their eyes wide open, plunge into disaster ever since.

It's a doom loop! Intel just can't afford to pay their OEMs to stay with them anymore, that's a huge bummer!

It's been only about +1 year since Ryzen – but for me that particular point in time will be the new calendar I'll always rely upon in any future when it comes to technology or computer electronics in general. That era when AMD literally not only catched up upon Intel and equalled literally 'ten years of processor-development with unlimited Intelian billions' but even outrun Intel – all that with just a fraction of Intel's budget …

All that with a single design, and the very first draft of it. At the very first stage of its development.
On a manufacturing process initially build and engineered only for mobile and ultra-portable SoCs.
This is not just a resounding slap - and that's no insult to Intel's shareholders anymore. That's called mockery.

Seems AMD never really was actually gone, they just took a serious run-up.
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#7
Hood
TheLostSwede
Don't take this the wrong way, but you seem quite uneducated, at least judging by your spelling, so maybe this is why you're such a fan boy/girl?
Besides, there was no mention of AMD whatsoever.
A lot of things are moving towards ARM, we're even seeing ARM powered notebooks and apparently the stuff Qualcomm is about to launch is said to be competitive with Intel's Y-series of processors.
But please, go ahead and make angry fan boy/girl accusations based on nothing, it makes you look totally sane...
Yup, jes notha sad case
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#8
Vayra86
Hood
Which companies are you referring to, and what option are you espousing? You mean AMD? How original of you! Next you'll be recommending we all "upgrade" to Vega. Somehow I don't think anyone is waiting for you to tell them what their options are. Personally, I would wait 3 years for Intel before I would ever by any AMD product. It doesn't help that every AMD fan has to pick up his toy bullhorn and announce obvious crap like this, and think they're doing AMD a favor.
Wow, sorry, did I strike a nerve? AMD fan, what? :D
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#9
Smartcom5
TheLostSwede

A lot of things are moving towards ARM, we're even seeing ARM powered notebooks and apparently the stuff Qualcomm is about to launch is said to be competitive with Intel's Y-series of processors.
That's a strange way to spell Dhyana. … and those are also quite a lot of words to just say KX-6000, isn't it?

Reading:
AnandTech • 8 Cores, 3 GHz, 16 nm FinFET – Zhaoxin Displays x86-Compatible KaiXian KX-6000
Tom'sHardware • Hygon Dhyana · China Finds Zen – Begins Production Of x86 Processors Based On AMD's IP
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#10
First Strike
Smartcom5
Our daily bad news regarding Intel give us today …
I wonder how much difficulties OEMs will have picking up AMD-parts instead.
Wow Intel, just wow … How on earth you fucked things up like that?

How stupid is it to even refuse telling how long the shortage will take?!
Is that another dumb attempt in outdoing competitors, like „If we won't tell them how long it takes until we can supply in any numbers again, they will clearly not go for AMD. So let's do 'dis!“, or what?!

Did karma actually bought a Itanium CPU back then? A Larrabee-card by any chance? Or some Optane SSDs? What a bitch!
How hard could it be?
Well what about you design a 5W Y-series for AMD? What about you improve that shitload power consumption of Raven Ridge for AMD?

U/Y series priority , did you read the article?
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#11
DeathtoGnomes
Ok so Wong is miffed and is hurting Intel even more by being vocal about the situation.
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#12
Smartcom5
First Strike

What about you improve that shitload power consumption of Raven Ridge for AMD?
You know that Ryzen is even more energy-efficient on given frequencies and loads, right?
In addition, what you need 5W chips for? 15W like Ryzen 3' U-chips are decent enough for portables. Anything below you should leave the market to ARM since a X86 can't be that energy-efficient to compete against such.

Anyway, AMD have had such chips ever since so I don't know what you're talking about. Though who knows if AMD won't bring such 5W APU s on 7nm in the near future?
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#13
jmcslob
Good timing for AMD...
I sure am glad I got my Intel processors when I did.
My next build was going to be AMD anyways so no worries here unless AMD process sky rocket.
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#14
dwade
Everybody wants Cascade Lake and only even consider Epyc when they can’t buy Intel. That is already a win for Intel, knowing that their products are vastly preferred over everyone else.
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#15
TheinsanegamerN
Smartcom5
You know that Ryzen is even more energy-efficient on given frequencies and loads, right?
In addition, what you need 5W chips for? 15W like Ryzen 3' U-chips are decent enough for portables. Anything below you should leave the market to ARM since a X86 can't be that energy-efficient to compete against such.

Anyway, AMD have had such chips ever since so I don't know what you're talking about. Though who knows if AMD won't bring such 5W APU s on 7nm in the near future?
Ultraportables that use 5 watt intel chips are also quite popular, and if AMD cant fill the entire product stack, get this,a company wont use them. They are not going to put the extra effort to support ryzen on only SOME of the lineup.

When your competitor is floundering, dont let up the pressure, keep it up on every category possible. That is a lesson AMD has desperately needed to learn for years now.
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#16
Paganstomp
Neat! We had low supplies of DDR4 RAM, then GPU's, and now CPU's within 1-2 years.

So much for the rumors that the PC market is dying. Or is it? :D
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#17
yeeeeman
Smartcom5
Nah, Intel will just pay them not to do so with all their earning from their brand new 9th Generation's profits – they'll be fine and stay with Big blue™ I guess. … oh, wait!
There ain't any greater profits they get now anymore, since they ain't able to ship such chips in volumes to earn given high-profit margins to shadily pay their OEMs to stay with them in the first place!

It's a catch-22, isn't it?
On one hand Intel have has always being the almighty giant, being able to outbuy every OEM and/or market due to their vastly high-profit margins and thus their sheer inexhaustible pockets. Now AMD cut their earnings big times by competing with a virtually identical product (performance-wise) while being sold by a way smaller price. AMD did so in an attempt to aggressively gain market-share quickly (which seems to work pretty decent though …). Stupidly enough and despite literally every analyst advised against it, Intel actually did try the dumbest thing they've could do in that situation, ever – and that's trying to compete with AMD upon price-level and -structure. So Intel. with their eyes wide open, plunge into disaster ever since.

It's a doom loop! Intel just can't afford to pay their OEMs to stay with them anymore, that's a huge bummer!

It's been only about +1 year since Ryzen – but for me that particular point in time will be the new calendar I'll always rely upon in any future when it comes to technology or computer electronics in general. That era when AMD literally not only catched up upon Intel and equalled literally 'ten years of processor-development with unlimited Intelian billions' but even outrun Intel – all that with just a fraction of Intel's budget …

All that with a single design, and the very first draft of it. At the very first stage of its development.
On a manufacturing process initially build and engineered only for mobile and ultra-portable SoCs.
This is not just a resounding slap - and that's no insult to Intel's shareholders anymore. That's called mockery.

Seems AMD never really was actually gone, they just took a serious run-up.
I agree. The damage of letting OEMs free during this period would be bigger compared to paying some money to stop them from buying AMD. Still, I think some OEMs will still give a try to AMD and will see that they are quite nice. We have the 2600H and 2800H incoming. There are already quite excellent options from AMD in the form of 2300U, 2500U and 2700U. They just need better cooling and more focus on getting more efficiency at low load from them. AMD should also add a 6 core into their notebook line-up. AMD should also work their asses off now to release an Zen optimized compiler. Now, the stars have aligned for them, as soon as they can get 7nm parts on the market the better.
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#18
B-Real
Hood
Which companies are you referring to, and what option are you espousing? You mean AMD? How original of you! Next you'll be recommending we all "upgrade" to Vega. Somehow I don't think anyone is waiting for you to tell them what their options are. Personally, I would wait 3 years for Intel before I would ever by any AMD product. It doesn't help that every AMD fan has to pick up his toy bullhorn and announce obvious crap like this, and think they're doing AMD a favor.
The most important thing is he told the truth and he is an AMD fan, and you say you will never buy an AMD product, but you are an unbiased person. Haha haha.

Vayra86
Wow, sorry, did I strike a nerve? AMD fan, what? :D
I think he didn't even check you have an Intel CPU. :D I love these hillbillies.
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#19
Durvelle27
yeeeeman
I agree. The damage of letting OEMs free during this period would be bigger compared to paying some money to stop them from buying AMD. Still, I think some OEMs will still give a try to AMD and will see that they are quite nice. We have the 2600H and 2800H incoming. There are already quite excellent options from AMD in the form of 2300U, 2500U and 2700U. They just need better cooling and more focus on getting more efficiency at low load from them. AMD should also add a 6 core into their notebook line-up. AMD should also work their asses off now to release an Zen optimized compiler. Now, the stars have aligned for them, as soon as they can get 7nm parts on the market the better.
Better cooling why

Ryzen already runs just as cool as intel and is just a efficient at stock

And for mobile skus I believe AMD did a great job of how the options are available

You have

4 Cores
4 Cores/8 Threads
8 Cores/16 Threads

Honestly most consumers 4 cores would be plenty. Most would overlook 6 easily and those who could make use of it and want the power would go with the 8 Core option instead but in the mobile space the low power/low cost option sells more.
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#20
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
Not looking good for intel...
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#21
yeeeeman
Durvelle27
Better cooling why

Ryzen already runs just as cool as intel and is just a efficient at stock

And for mobile skus I believe AMD did a great job of how the options are available

You have

4 Cores
4 Cores/8 Threads
8 Cores/16 Threads

Honestly most consumers 4 cores would be plenty. Most would overlook 6 easily and those who could make use of it and want the power would go with the 8 Core option instead but in the mobile space the low power/low cost option sells more.
Better cooling because they get thermally limited and they throttle in many notebooks currently. I know this is in part OEM's fault, but if AMD makes sure their CPUs are top notch, come with great FW and enforce some cooling/performance rules, they will have compelling options on the market. As it stands now, Lenovo laptops (apart from the thinkpad, which has bad battery life) are crippled with either single channel memory or bad cooling solution. HP is better, but it could be better. Dell has some offers, but it doesn't want to draw any attention to them. Acer has a good implementation and from Asus (strangely enough) I didn't see any laptop with the U series from AMD.

Options is the name of the game. You need to give the consumers lots of options, to create confusion and make him buy the most expensive variant.
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