Friday, December 28th 2018

Sapphire Outs Radeon RX 590 Nitro+ OC Sans "Special Edition"

Sapphire debuted its Radeon RX 590 series last month with the RX 590 Nitro+ Special Edition, which at the time was advertised as a limited-edition SKU. The company over Holiday weekend updated its product stack to introduce a new mass-production SKU, the RX 590 Nitro+ OC, minus "Special Edition" branding. There are only cosmetic changes between the two SKUs. Sapphire's favorite shade of blue on the Special Edition SKU makes way for matte-black on the cooler shroud, as do the black accents on the back-plate, instead of blue. The fan impellers are opaque matte black instead of frosty and translucent.

Thankfully, Sapphire hasn't changed the specs that matter - factory-overclock. The card still ships with 1560 MHz engine clocks (boost), and 8.40 GHz (GDDR5-effective) memory, and a "quiet" second BIOS that dials down the clocks to 1545 MHz boost and 8.00 GHz memory. The underlying PCB is unchanged, too, drawing power from a combination of 8-pin and 6-pin PCIe power connectors, and conditioning it with a 6+1 phase VRM. Display outputs include two each of DisplayPort 1.4 and HDMI 2.0, and a dual-link DVI-D. The company didn't reveal pricing, although we expect it to be marginally lower than the Special Edition SKU.
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66 Comments on Sapphire Outs Radeon RX 590 Nitro+ OC Sans "Special Edition"

#1
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Special Edition has a blue LED. Suspect this one doesn't. Not that it really matters...
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#2
EntropyZ
I want a Sapphire Vega II or Navi card. Hnnnnng.

I think everyone knows the 590 isn't worth getting over a VEGA 56.
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#3
gamerman
well, i dont get this 'new' rx 590 version gpu meaning!!??....looks its new variant still coming..different are, even red ine oc'd without case or helping anything for rising fps or so.
only think what is rising is power eat. and its record high!.. even tis 1st verions.

so that 'thing'...its skyhigh oc'd rx 580 gpu with smaller line tech build,thats all....should say 'biggest' thing are that bcoz it build smaller line tech its can oc'd even more than rx any other rx 500 series..
and thats all.

we can imagine when its oc's so much how terrible it is power eat.

its make alot more heat and noise and for that watts it have very low fps.

example wecan imagine IF example tx 1060 oc'd (if it can. i think no) so much that it eat same watts than rx 590...think its crushed all rx 500 series gpus!!


...so i mean what ever more you squeeze it hets even doubel it power eat. so efficiency going if possible even more terrible.
so we goes then next amd tactics.. amd push price even lower IF possible, near limit that amd get negative result.

but point is any amd rx 500 series are really lausy gpus,and only thing what they can do (amd) is really price.. but sure you get lausy slow gpu lower price.

ok,its amd way to build gpus...but i say thouse kind gpu shpuld these days banned...

terrible efficiency = slow for games

we live soon year 2019..and all know this year and future target. more fps with less power,amd not care it sh1t.

nvidia doing that excellent,and still it have overkill speed gpus,sure they cost more, but quality and responsibility for air and earth cleanlines and purity ..cost little more.

rx 590 eat morepower than nvidia gtx 2080 ti!!!!!!!

i say, it should banned! but amd not care.

im sure that 2020 when intel coming gpu faily,they release good product with good efficiency,so i say
2020 we seen two,only two serious gpu maker, nvidia and intel.

so lets wait nvidia rtx 3000 series, intel 1st gpu series...and why not amd gpu IF tehy make gpu example like rx 590 what is twcie at taht speed,but eat 50% less power.
amd never cant do that.

amd cant and not release anyhting 'good anymore..its seen 3-4 years...they dont have nothing except hypeting and commercial junks,all engineer leaders left amds. bcoz that.

amd gpus are just loosers choice
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#4
xtreemchaos
its not that much of a upgrade seeing my 580 runs a 1520 if needed but I norm run at 1475, I wonder if this new 590 would hit 1600 if pushed ? charl.
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#5
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Speaking from experience, this card only draws 40-130w and runs 0 fan RPM most of the time. I'm quite impressed with it and understand why AMD felt it was worth jumping to 12nm for a Polaris refresh.
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#6
TheGuruStud
EntropyZ, post: 3966804, member: 162270"
I want a Sapphire Vega II or Navi card. Hnnnnng.

I think everyone knows the 590 isn't worth getting over a VEGA 56.
Especially when powercolor vega 56 was $330. I was surprised at the mini-PCB, but it still has a gigantic cooler.
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#7
Vya Domus
Sapphire makes hands down the best, most solid looking cards.
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#11
Vya Domus
RH92, post: 3966828, member: 174545"
so yeah here means alot !
To whom ? You ? Whatever floats your boat but no one cares if you think it's a lot.
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#14
Vayra86
FordGT90Concept, post: 3966834, member: 60463"
When you don't use any kind of frame limiter, sure. I'm a gamer, not a benchmarker, and I haven't seen it go over 165w because all my monitor can handle is 1920x1200 @ 60 Hz.
What kind of logic is that? The RX590 uses about 50% more power to get a 10-15% performance win over its predecessors. Nobody cares how you specifically limited frames to get lower usage, the card can and will pull what it can when it needs to. Anyone running high refresh already sees the peak use more often than not, and if you run heavier games, same thing.

That goes for a 1080 too, but since that one gets temp limited at 81 C, it will conserve energy more readily and never get to the usage of a Polaris card. GPU Boost 3.0 is a lot more advanced. Realistically you're looking at 210W for any ambient air cooled 1080 simply because they run into thermal constraints if they push that all the time. But they do have 40-50% more performance than Polaris at that usage.
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#15
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
I don't care what the power consumption is. I limit it because tearing sucks.

That said, multi-monitor idle power consumption is something AMD really needs to work on. What W1zzard reported in the review is what I see (~40w).
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#16
Vayra86
FordGT90Concept, post: 3966863, member: 60463"
I don't care what the power consumption is. I limit it because tearing sucks.

That said, multi-monitor idle power consumption is something AMD really needs to work on. What W1zzard reported in the review is what I see (~40w).
Of course, but now we're circling the steaming pile of what was the original subject people triggered on: power consumption. Not a single reviewer is denying that the RX590's power use is way out of whack compared to its performance win. Its fine if you don't care, but that doesn't make it less true. At the same time, many people DO avoid high TDP cards for a multitude of pretty obvious reasons: noise, cooling requirements, electrical bills. They are minor nuisances, but they are still noticeable.

Vya Domus, post: 3966830, member: 169281"
To whom ? You ? Whatever floats your boat but no one cares if you think it's a lot.
This is exactly the kind of behavior that confirms there is a problem. 'No one cares'? I think many people do. Polaris is rapidly getting pushed beyond comfortable limits and it shows. We've been here before in the past few years and it never ended well. GCN still suffers its efficiency problem.
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#17
Vya Domus
Vayra86, post: 3966866, member: 152404"
I think many people do.
Odd that you'd care about the power consumption of some card you don't use. But as I said to him already, whatever floats your boat.

Vayra86, post: 3966866, member: 152404"
Polaris is rapidly getting pushed beyond comfortable limits and it shows. We've been here before in the past few years and it never ended well. GCN still suffers its efficiency problem.
Again. Why would you care ?

Vayra86, post: 3966866, member: 152404"
This is exactly the kind of behavior that confirms there is a problem.
What behavior and what problem ? You got me really curios, how is all of this so important ?
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#18
Vayra86
Vya Domus, post: 3966871, member: 169281"
What behavior and what problem ? You got me really curios, how is all of this so important ?
Vya Domus, post: 3966827, member: 169281"
Doesn't mean much, every card peaks at a very high wattage. My 1080 reaches 230W according to the internal software reading and likely much more than that in reality.
Why would you care? You have a 1080.

Its so easy to dodge those bullets. Don't go there please. The topic was peak power consumption and we both responded. How is it important? It influences a purchase decision for many, me included.

What problem? You can look at RTG/AMDs position for discrete GPUs at this point and I think no further text is required.

And what behaviour? Yours, in the very post above mine. Its like mentioning excessive power consumption and poor perf/watt is forbidden, which confirms it exists.
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#19
Vya Domus
Vayra86, post: 3966873, member: 152404"
Its so easy to dodge those bullets. Don't go there please.
I am dodging what exactly ? The RX590 has a high power consumption, wonderful , what about it ? As I pointed many other cards do, they are GPUs for Christ sake, they draw a lot of current, some more some less. If this influences your buying decision then you are free to go on your marry way and do whatever you want. No one else should care about about that. As a matter of fact it's this bizarre notion that you have to impose to someone what they should care about and that there's a problem that screws the market and expectations beyond repair.

Vayra86, post: 3966873, member: 152404"
Its like mentioning excessive power consumption and poor perf/watt is forbidden
"like mentioning" ? I never said that nor implied it, you know that, you're going on a tangent.

Vayra86, post: 3966873, member: 152404"
What problem? You can look at RTG/AMDs position for discrete GPUs at this point and I think no further text is required.
What's the deal with this ever present frustration about AMD what they do ? Why does every single topic on here eventually gets to this point ?
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#20
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Vayra86, post: 3966866, member: 152404"
Of course, but now we're circling the steaming pile of what was the original subject people triggered on: power consumption. Not a single reviewer is denying that the RX590's power use is way out of whack compared to its performance win. Its fine if you don't care, but that doesn't make it less true. At the same time, many people DO avoid high TDP cards for a multitude of pretty obvious reasons: noise, cooling requirements, electrical bills. They are minor nuisances, but they are still noticeable.
I just FurMarked it. Never hit 70C and could barely hear the fans running at 1300 RPM.
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#21
Vya Domus
Pretty sure Furmark is detected by the driver hence the lower clocks. Regardless, it uses more power than other cards of comparable performance, I don't know why he is so adamant the point that out even though we all know it but let him have it his way. Whatever that might be.
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#22
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Naw, it's bumping against the TDP limit so it downclocks and limits voltage. Kind of neat that RX 590's bottom is RX 580's top in terms of GPU clocks.
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#23
Darmok N Jalad
FordGT90Concept, post: 3966808, member: 60463"
Speaking from experience, this card only draws 40-130w and runs 0 fan RPM most of the time. I'm quite impressed with it and understand why AMD felt it was worth jumping to 12nm for a Polaris refresh.
I’m surprised that it needs the extra power connector then. I do agree about the quality of the brand. I have the 480 Nitro+, and I undervolt mine a little bit, which helps it stay boosted more often. The fans turn off fairly often in games, too. Card averages about 100W in games with a 60FPS cap.
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#24
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
My UPS is telling me that the overlay is underestimating power consumption by something close to 80w.
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#25
RH92
FordGT90Concept, post: 3966834, member: 60463"
When you don't use any kind of frame limiter, sure. I'm a gamer, not a benchmarker, and I haven't seen it go over 165w because all my monitor can handle is 1920x1200 @ 60 Hz.
What do you mean you are a gamer not a benchmarker ? So all those peoples gaming at higher resolution or/and refresh rate than 1080p 60Hz aren't gamers after you ? You can easely see where im going with this , i can't say that a 1080Ti draws 40W because i simply use it to watch youtube .... same goes here !

Vya Domus, post: 3966903, member: 169281"
Get out of here buddy with this garbage of a comment. If you can't contain yourself to have a civilized discussion take your own advice.
Funny how you skip the rest of my post and even more funny to see you asking for a civilized discussion after your first reply , here in France we say : '' HYPOCRISIE QUAND TU NOUS TIENS '' wich suits you perfectly !!!
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