psft, vista is old news. ill be holding out for the next windows :roll:

They should make it right the first time and they wouldn't need to keep changing it. Kinda of like a car. They all look different but the controls are all in the same place. Every time a new version of windows comes out they move everything. Next thing you know the gas and brake pedals are reversed, the turn signal lever is where the heater controls used to be. Heater controls are now steering wheel mounted and the stereo in under the seat. :rolleyes: Who'd drive that?

like osx coming out with a diff one evry 6 months :cool:

Vista SE with USB 3.0 support. (and soon the inquier will post that as a fact :P)

I think what they mean is that they will be updating Vista - much like they said they would.
This is so that they do not have to make a completely new version of Windows.

Lazzer408They should make it right the first time and they wouldn't need to keep changing it. Kinda of like a car.

Except, no matter how well you think something is engineered it will never be perfect. I bet Microsoft could look back on XP and think of many ways they could have improved it and that's why Vista is being released. There will always be a successor to something an it will, in most cases be better then what was released.

You don't know it but each year a car comes out, especially for a specific body style, improvements are made. You may not notice it but it happens.

I belive it...remember windows 2000 and how fast XP came after it?

Looks like its me & xp until 2009! ;)

shoman24vExcept, no matter how well you think something is engineered it will never be perfect. I bet Microsoft could look back on XP and think of many ways they could have improved it and that's why Vista is being released. There will always be a successor to something an it will, in most cases be better then what was released.

You don't know it but each year a car comes out, especially for a specific body style, improvements are made. You may not notice it but it happens.

Why don't you see it? Because it's behind the dashboard or under the hood yadda yadda. I think you missed my point about the car analogy. In my analogy...the "user interface" of a car remains unchanged. Anyone who knows how to drive a ford can drive a chevy or toyata because all the controls are in the same places. I dont like what microsoft does to the gui with each version. Ok, make it pretty, make it slick, but stop moving things around! :banghead: The first time I used it I spent WAY too much time trying to find the resolution slider or device manager or whatever. Maybe not those -exact- examples I'm just using the reference. Give me XP with Aero and I'd be happy. I can always get object desktop I guess.

It wont be new. It'll just be an upgrade! Mark my words!

Methinks this "new" OS will be little more than Vista SE - in other words fixing everything M$ screwed up, and putting OGL support and hardware acceleration back in. Vista sucks.

Vista R2, Just like Windows 2003 R2

Figures. It's all about the money and getting more of it. MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEYY, MONEYYYYYYY!!!!!

this wouldn't surprise me after all windows millennium only lasted 1-2 years also and vista is really just the successor of windows millennium

Wow. I guess they got alot of criticism on Vista....they have probably been working on this one about as long as they have on Vista...and then some.

I thought they said Vista was going to be the "last OS for a good long time"

How and why can they expect us to even pay the slightest bit of attention to such a claim... they ruined all of their time frame estimates' credibility with vista.

I wonder if it's going to be VISTA (w/ all the features that didn't make it, like the new filesystem we didn't get to see, a SQLServer relational databased one (like IBM midrange system have, this I have seen & they use DB/2 engines) etc.) OR, one based on this one from MS R&D:

SINGULARITY

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity_(operating_system)

&

research.microsoft.com/os/singularity/

:)

* We'll see...

APK

the wiki link seems to be wrong, Alex.

Wile Ethe wiki link seems to be wrong, Alex.

Add a ) on the end of the URL.

KetxxxMethinks this "new" OS will be little more than Vista SE - in other words fixing everything M$ screwed up, and putting OGL support and hardware acceleration back in. Vista sucks.

OGL support is dependant on ati/amd and nvidia and the like to put out the driver, ms didnt remove ogl, the WINDOWED ogl is wraper based unless u set areo up to run on OGL(i can be) fullscreen OGL is to run on a normal ICD.

i have vista but i also think you need to read up b4 you post FUD, check
www.opengl.org/news/permalink/windows_vista_to_support_opengl_icds_for_aeroglass_compositing_desktop/

OpenGL News PermalinkWindows Vista to support OpenGL ICDs for Aeroglass compositing desktop

Mar 15, 2006

Microsoft has enabled support for OpenGL ICDs that work with the Windows Vista compositing desktop, as of the February preview build. This is taken from a Microsoft blog:
“Windows Vista ICD’s - this is a new path for 3rd party ICD’s introduced for Windows Vista that will work in a way that is compatible with desktop composition. Essentially allowing direct access to the GPU for hardware accellaration, but then having the final surface that appears to be the front buffer to the application actually be a shared surface that gets composed by the DWM”.
This means that the OpenGL API and the Aeroglass window manager will work in harmony and fully accelerated once the hardware vendors get their Vista ICDs written and released.
Kudos to all developers who contacted their ISVs/HSVs to ensure that OpenGL was fully supported under Vista. You made the difference.

its just dependant on the hardware maker to put out working ogl ICD, amd from what i hear is working to get better OGL drivers for ati/amd videocards already, so we hopefully will see good ogl icd for windows 2k/xp/2003 as well as vista soon

Wile Ethe wiki link seems to be wrong, Alex.

Fixed... I pasted it in first time wrong & omitted the last closing parenthesis ")", my mistake!

(Jimmy 2004 was right on what I missed - thanks Jim!)

Again:

SINGULARITY

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity_(operating_system)

&

research.microsoft.com/os/singularity/

:)

* Good read though, for folks that may not be aware of that going on @ MS!

APK