war is hell...

zekrahminatorHowever, NVIDIA also has a figurative ace-in-the-hole, a driver tweak.

Hmmm Do I hear locked features? :rolleyes:

just like i said before the 8800 standard edition would become the middle card, glad i didn't shell out for the first batch with price to match

So an nVidia Uber clocked G80 may whoop a Vanilla R600. My money is on the Uber clocked R600 reigning King once again. The driver tweak nVidia has up their sleeve. Well it is prob. just software DX10 emulation. Keep up the competition nVidia & AMD/ATi, we love the price drops!

Thats good news then, for ATI (AMD). I mean, if Nvidia has to uber clock their POS 8800 and do a driver tweak, the R600 must be a godsend ::Drool:: ::Dreams on super high res with 120+ FPS with all things turned up!!!::

zekrahminatorNVIDIA also has a figurative ace-in-the-hole, a driver tweak. What exactly this driver tweak does is unknown. Whatever it is, though, will give ATI some serious competition when they release their gigantic R600.

Source: The Inquirer

i can guess what the driver tweak will be :wtf: maybe it will be a working driver :roll:

This is the 5800-5900 all over again. 5800 came out early and the 9700 was smacking it around. Then 5900 (which was an overclocked 5800) came out and the 9700 was still beating it, then the 9800 came out and killed the FX series.

hummmmm.. 8800gtx to 8900 mod?!? then.. hummmmm... :p lol

Seeing that the new DDR and the R600 will have 2x the memory bandwidth. I will have too see all of this too believe it.

I really think the R600 is going to end up being the more "quality" product of the two. As long as AMD/ATi doesn't have driver issues like Nvidia, I don't see them screwing this up.

hopefully the prices of the 8800 gtx will come down so I can add another one to my rig. 8800 gtx sli woot!!!:rockout:

Sounds like complete and total bullshit because how could someone be so effing stupid. They need to change it somewhat hardware wise and crack the junk up with gddr4 memory in order to compete with ati.

mullered07i can guess what the driver tweak will be :wtf: maybe it will be a working driver :roll:

DAMN YOU MULLERED! beat me too it :roll: :roll:

mullered07i can guess what the driver tweak will be :wtf: maybe it will be a working driver :roll:

:laugh:

DaMultaSeeing that the new DDR and the R600 will have 2x the memory bandwidth. I will have too see all of this too believe it.

yea DDR5, damn memory is faster than my cpu :roll:

No love for Nvidia here, lol. Can't blame you guys though, ATi usually gives you the better bang for the buck. After all, thats why I bought my X850 for $145.

Yup its true... nvidia have lost their loyal fans again... DejaVu?

I could use that driver tweak, hopefully it will be available to us 8800 owners :)

Wow talk about no lovin' for Nvidia on this forum. Well screw you guys, Nvidia is the...gr...ea...Hhahahahah couldn't even finish the sentence without cracking up. Now on to a more serious question, should I buy R600 right away or wait for a few months first.

hv43082Wow talk about no lovin' for Nvidia on this forum. Well screw you guys, Nvidia is the...gr...ea...Hhahahahah couldn't even finish the sentence without cracking up. Now on to a more serious question, should I buy R600 right away or wait for a few months first.

right away:toast:

im starting to save now:p

The 8900 will be better because it has better drivers? I dont think even nVidia is crazy enough to do that.
My guess is that the 8900 GTX will be built on the 80nm process and have 1024MB of GDDR4, etc. because they cannot overclock the 90nm furthur right now anyway.

jocksteelukjust like i said before the 8800 standard edition would become the middle card, glad i didn't shell out for the first batch with price to match

That doesnt hold water. There will always be a newer card ~6 months later.

POGEThat doesnt hold water. There will always be a newer card ~6 months later.

very true..


industry-> :nutkick: <-person who bought a card then realized its already out of date

JC316This is the 5800-5900 all over again. 5800 came out early and the 9700 was smacking it around. Then 5900 (which was an overclocked 5800) came out and the 9700 was still beating it, then the 9800 came out and killed the FX series.

so true, and i wish people would stop saying fx cards had software emulated dx9 u cant software emulate dx9, the cards had dx9 but so poorly designed that it was USELESS.

i was one of the smucks that had a 5800ultra, POS POS POS.

And it wont just be a working driver, they will do what they did with the fx line, "quility tweaks" to gain perf in benches, ones u cant dissable because they are hard coded, so overclock the core, make a shitty driver that adds perf and BAM new card???
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

sorry but i will stick with my overclocked x1900xt/xtx :)

"Driver tweak" ?

Reminds me of the early DirectX and OpenGL days when various optimisations were hidden so that the Quake2/3 engine ran faster... but was nothing more than scaling down the textures/3D geometry accuracy... so as to score a higher FPS.

I hope these "tricks" do not come back into play.