Wednesday, February 20th 2019

Intel Invites Gamers for a Graphics Odyssey Spanning Multiple Continents

Intel is working to build up hype and awareness around its discrete graphics efforts, of which we're still to see more off besides Intel's continuous acquisition of AMD-based talent for that particular endeavor. It's relatively hard to build up enthusiasm for something other than the fact there is a third competitor entering the high-performance graphics card space; the rest is mostly rumors, speculations, and declared intentions.
Intel seems to be starting an Odyssey of its own with multiple events spanning the globe, aiming for gatherings of gamers that can give Intel feedback on their graphics pursuit. The Odyssey is "built around a passionate community, focused on improving graphics and visual computing for everyone, from gamers to content creators."; access for the events will be granted, after a sign-up form, by way of an Intel VIP Pass, which will give gamers "killer deals and freebies, preferred beta access, the latest gaming news and more." If you're interested and want to partake in being on the inside of some Intel events that might grant you access to information on Intel's upcoming Xe graphics products as well as to giveaways and freebies, follow the source link for both the press info and sign-up form.
Sources: Intel gameplay, images via Cristiano Siqueira's Twitter, Unofficial Concept Renders
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53 Comments on Intel Invites Gamers for a Graphics Odyssey Spanning Multiple Continents

#1
Object55
Well at least they should get props for one thing. Power connector location.
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#2
Vayra86
Results first. We can go all hype mode after that. I very much remember the brilliant 5775C CPU with a rather fast IGP. I'm sure they can bring something to the table, but the green giant is leaps and bounds ahead.
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#3
lynx29
Agreed, if their product can't compete with 2080 ti at $799 price point, I'll pass, I trust Nvidia drivers more for older titles.

Honestly, since release won't even be late 2020, if it does not surpass 2080 ti performance, I am not even going to blink an eye. I don't have time to wait around anymore. Most likely AMD and Intel will be a laughing stock, I wish it were not so... but I demand ultimate performance on my last GPU buy (I firmly believe silicon is dying and plan to make 2080 ti or 3080 ti my last purchase) hopefully I can hold out long enough for 3080 ti, I think I can ^^
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#4
notb
For all the people that loved watching Raja Koduri in videos from the other company:
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#5
yakk
More competition is better.

However, we are still very much in oligarchy territory with only 3 companies to choose from so I really do not expect price reductions.
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#6
kings
Hopefully they will be very successful, the GPU market desperately needs a shakeup!
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#7
TheOne
This really is moving quick.
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#8
Markosz
The sooner, the better.
Even though I don't particularly like Intel either since they have been pretty shady on their CPU front, another GPU competitor would certainly make things more interesting.
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#9
xkm1948
With Intel's R&D money and fab support, worst case scenario we will have more choices in the GPU market.

Best case scenario? We may see some really good performer coming from Intel.
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#10
ArbitraryAffection
I'm not excited at all because Intel is Intel. That is not going to change. they will follow Nvidia's pricing and overcharge for their products. And they won't even worry about AMD offering a better solution for less money (I.e Ryzen) because the mindshare is so strong that people will buy it because it's Intel.

And besides, I refuse to buy Intel products based on my own principles and that includes their GPUs.

Radeon for life xD

if AMD stops makign discrete GPUs I will stop building gaming PC's entirely. -shrug-
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#11
cucker tarlson
ArbitraryAffection, post: 3998792, member: 145270"
I'm not excited at all because Intel is Intel. That is not going to change. they will follow Nvidia's pricing and overcharge for their products. And they won't even worry about AMD offering a better solution for less money (I.e Ryzen) because the mindshare is so strong that people will buy it because it's Intel.
yeah,Radeon VII and rx590 are true value champions against 1080Ti's,2070s,2060s and 1660Ti.
and those CL i5s that are faster gaming cpus than 2700x are so behind amd in price/performance too.Are you absolutely sure that people who chose rtx 2060 and 8600k over ryzen+vega did it because of the mindshare ? :laugh:

only offering that amd has that is truly superior in value to a mainstream user/enthusiast is rx570,hands down.

well,at least you can admit you're amd biased so that's fine.green man bad.we get it.
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#12
neatfeatguy
Looks like a really long card in those pics.

If Intel can come into the discrete GPU market with anything that has a similar performance of what AMD and Nvidia are at with better pricing, it would be a welcomed addition in my book.

AMD needs someone else nipping at their heels to keep them going with GPUs and Nvidia needs someone else to help bring them back into the realm of not needing to take a loan out for a top-tier GPU. I guess we wait and see where things land.

And I see they have Minneapolis on their list....sweet!
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#13
cucker tarlson
neatfeatguy, post: 3998804, member: 70848"
Looks like a really long card in those pics.

If Intel can come into the discrete GPU market with anything that has a similar performance of what AMD and Nvidia are at with better pricing, it would be a welcomed addition in my book.

AMD needs someone else nipping at their heels to keep them going with GPUs and Nvidia needs someone else to help bring them back into the realm of not needing to take a loan out for a top-tier GPU. I guess we wait and see where things land.

And I see they have Minneapolis on their list....sweet!
I wonder whether they'll be truly gaming oriented cards.They might do something vega-like but with better efficiency and availability,they'll sell like hotcakes.
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#14
Basard
xkm1948, post: 3998786, member: 50521"
With Intel's R&D money and fab support, worst case scenario we will have more choices in the GPU market.

Best case scenario? We may see some really good performer coming from Intel.
Maybe a 5Ghz GPU!:p
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#15
notb
neatfeatguy, post: 3998804, member: 70848"
Looks like a really long card in those pics.
You can be sure that if consumer GPUs will be made primarily for notebooks - desktops (i.e. PCIe cards) having lower priority.
As for server GPGPU, it'll be made to fit. :-)
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#16
MCJeeba
Object55, post: 3998763, member: 147485"
Well at least they should get props for one thing. Power connector location.
Hey, uh, guys... Guys?

You see those watermarks? It's a name? Maybe the name of the person who did these renders just for fun a few months ago? Maybe, just maybe, that means they aren't actual representations of Intel's GPU? Maybe that's why the first image, a blurry silhouette, is of the only actual representation Intel's ever given?

But yes, Christiano made a great choice of location for the power connectors.
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#17
xkm1948
cucker tarlson, post: 3998807, member: 173472"
I wonder whether they'll be truly gaming oriented cards.They might do something vega-like but with better efficiency and availability,they'll sell like hotcakes.
Yeah that comes into mind immediately: machine learning and AI applications. Gaming will be the cherry on the top.

I bet Intel will also implement Tensor computing asic in their GPU. So things like RTRT or DirectML AA would be possible as well. It is difficult to compete in AI markets these days without dedicated Tensor asic.
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#18
lynx29
yakk, post: 3998781, member: 158293"
More competition is better.

However, we are still very much in oligarchy territory with only 3 companies to choose from so I really do not expect price reductions.
keep in mind, if all you plan to do is game at 27" 1440 144hz - a 2080 will prob last you 5 years on high settings for all games (cause 100hz is really the mark where diminishing returns kicks in on smoothness to vision), i mean game engines prob won't change much, even if they do, it will probably be gimmicky features i don't care about and can turn off.

but its def best to wait for the next round of GPU's I think before upgrading... really hope it will bring prices down if nothing else :D
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#19
moproblems99
cucker tarlson, post: 3998807, member: 173472"
I wonder whether they'll be truly gaming oriented cards.
Why would they? Intel doesn't really care about the gaming market. They want the ai and the money making areas. Not to mention, the guy that delivered everybody's favorite Fury - Vega II is leading the charge. Willing to bet they do another jack of all trades master of none. It is what he is good at.
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#20
Mescalamba
Im curious.

Also how good it will mine. :D
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#21
Zubasa
cucker tarlson, post: 3998797, member: 173472"
yeah,Radeon VII and rx590 are true value champions against 1080Ti's,2070s,2060s and 1660Ti.
and those CL i5s that are faster gaming cpus than 2700x are so behind amd in price/performance too.Are you absolutely sure that people who chose rtx 2060 and 8600k over ryzen+vega did it because of the mindshare ? :laugh:
The 1660Ti is not released yet, so the value is all just conjecture at this point.
Now the CL i5 is an interesting one, they might offer better average FPS, but in some games it has rather poor frametime variance.
The 9600k being a refresh of the 8600k has the same issues, the 8700k or the 2700X on the other hand does not experience this at all.
So it really depends on what you mean by gaming performance.


Also why do I care about frametime variance?
Tom Petersen @Nvidia and Ryan Shrout who now works for Intel kindly explains.

So according to nVidia's own metric pairing their RTX2060 with an i5 might not be the best idea.
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#22
ensabrenoir
.....guess this explains why their cpu's has been meh lately. Fully focused on gpu's. If this is successful and intel brings their cpus back up to speed.....the world is theirs'.
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#24
Tomorrow
MCJeeba, post: 3998831, member: 164475"
Hey, uh, guys... Guys?

You see those watermarks? It's a name? Maybe the name of the person who did these renders just for fun a few months ago? Maybe, just maybe, that means they aren't actual representations of Intel's GPU? Maybe that's why the first image, a blurry silhouette, is of the only actual representation Intel's ever given?

But yes, Christiano made a great choice of location for the power connectors.
Yeah guess everyone missed that and automatically assumed these were official.
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#25
cucker tarlson
ArbitraryAffection, post: 3999078, member: 145270"
8600K is almost as expensive as 2700X
No point in arguing obvious delusions.2700x is 25% more expensive.
1150pln for 8600k here,1450pln for 2700x. The difference is enough to buy a much better end air cooler than ryzen has and there'll be enough left for a ssd.The end result is you've got a faster cpu for gaming,better and quieter cooling and you end up spending less than 2700x.

ArbitraryAffection, post: 3999078, member: 145270"
I am talking about those people that buy 8400's over 2600/X and 1050 Ti's over RX 570.
only 1050ti is geting slammed by rx570 while 8400 is on par with 2700x in gaming.But yeah,do put them in the same category if you're delusional enough.

ArbitraryAffection, post: 3999078, member: 145270"
NVidia and Intel don't have a single part that offers such value so my statement is correct. I am an AMD "fanboy" but in reality I'm not lying.
You mean in your alternative reality ? :laugh:
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