Thursday, February 21st 2019

NVIDIA Adds New Options to Its MX200 Mobile Graphics Solutions - MX250 and MX230

NVIDIA has added new SKUs to its low power mobility graphics lineup. the MX230 and MX250 come in to replace The GeForce MX130 and MX150, but... there's really not that much of a performance improvement to justify the increase in the series' tier. Both solutions are based on Pascal, so there are no Turing performance uplifts at the execution level.

NVIDIA hasn't disclosed any CUDA core counts or other specifics on these chips; we only know that they are paired with GDDR 5 memory and feature Boost functionality for increased performance in particular scenarios. The strange thing is that NVIDIA's own performance scores compare their MX 130, MX150, and now MX230 and MX250 to Intel's UHD620 IGP part... and while the old MX150 was reported by NVIDIA as offering an up to 4x performance uplift compared to that Intel part, the new MX250 now claims an improvement of 3.5x the performance. Whether this is because of new testing methodology, or some other reason, only NVIDIA knows.
Sources: NVIDIA, NVIDIA
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9 Comments on NVIDIA Adds New Options to Its MX200 Mobile Graphics Solutions - MX250 and MX230

#1
jeremyshaw
My guess is the performance of UHD620 in whatever KB-R laptop they tested two(?) years ago was worse than the WHL i5 (also with UHD620) laptop they tested recently.
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Ravenmaster
I wouldn't refer to underpowered graphics as a 'solution.'
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#3
ArbitraryAffection
Ravenmaster
I wouldn't refer to underpowered graphics as a 'solution.'
Actually the MX150 is a pretty good little chip. It performs around the same as the 2400G iGPU and when paired with a low cost dualie i3 or something it can make a pretty sweet little entry level gaming device for not too much cost. (These are the competitor to Ryzen mobile APU designs and they are faster iirc).
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#4
Crackong
Hope net-gen AMD Mobile APU could out perform them both in performance and price.
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Imsochobo
ArbitraryAffection
Actually the MX150 is a pretty good little chip. It performs around the same as the 2400G iGPU and when paired with a low cost dualie i3 or something it can make a pretty sweet little entry level gaming device for not too much cost. (These are the competitor to Ryzen mobile APU designs and they are faster iirc).
Tried a 3000 $ I7 8650 U, Dualchannel 32gb ram, MX150 with 15W chip not the 10W.
Not impressed, couldn't really do anything other than cuda accelerated apps.
Surprised at how slow and sluggish the whole thing was with a 970 PRO, tried starcraft 2 all low 720 P and still couldn't play.... the game is from 2010!!!!
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newtekie1
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ArbitraryAffection
Actually the MX150 is a pretty good little chip. It performs around the same as the 2400G iGPU and when paired with a low cost dualie i3 or something it can make a pretty sweet little entry level gaming device for not too much cost. (These are the competitor to Ryzen mobile APU designs and they are faster iirc).
Yeah, the MX150 is pretty much identical to the desktop GT 1030, they are the same architecture, same core configuration, same memory configuration, and even the same clock speeds. The only difference might be the MX150 not being able to boost as high or for as long as the GT 1030 because of the thermals of the laptop it is in. But if you get a MX150 in a laptop that can keep it cool enough, it will perform pretty much the same as the GT 1030 or the 2400G iGPU.

I bought the wife a ASUS Ultrabook(Vivobook S) with an MX150 in it, and was quite impressed with its capability. I've mostly used it to play GTA:V, I haven't tested it with a whole lot of other games, but it handles GTA:V at 900p.

Imsochobo
Surprised at how slow and sluggish the whole thing was with a 970 PRO, tried starcraft 2 all low 720 P and still couldn't play.... the game is from 2010!!!!
If that computer struggled with Starcraft 2 on 720p then there was something else wrong with the computer, because the MX150 should have handled that easily. In fact, it should be doing over 100FPS in Starcraft 2, on high, at 1080p. Your results sound like the laptop was using the iGPU instead of the MX150...
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king of swag187
jeremyshaw
My guess is the performance of UHD620 in whatever KB-R laptop they tested two(?) years ago was worse than the WHL i5 (also with UHD620) laptop they tested recently.
The GPU between the the 7th gen CPU's (HD 620) and the newest CPU's (UHD 620) hasn't changed one bit, aside from name
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Imsochobo
newtekie1
If that computer struggled with Starcraft 2 on 720p then there was something else wrong with the computer, because the MX150 should have handled that easily. In fact, it should be doing over 100FPS in Starcraft 2, on high, at 1080p. Your results sound like the laptop was using the iGPU instead of the MX150...
What I thought, When I enabled the Igpu then I got it confirmed when it wouldn't go above 40 fps at all, MX150 was in use!
So I got curious and tested it on 2400G @ 3466cl16 mhz mem and it's rather sluggish too there too so seems to be right.
has to be said I'm a bit more than competetive in the game.
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jeremyshaw
king of swag187
The GPU between the the 7th gen CPU's (HD 620) and the newest CPU's (UHD 620) hasn't changed one bit, aside from name
You are the only one bringing up 7th gen CPUs. OP has clear screenshots of Nvidia's website, where they list UHD620 (8th gen mobile CPU IGP) as the baseline for the MX150/MX130.

My guess remains the same. Early Kaby Lake R laptops were worse at sustaining performance than later designs.
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