lexluthermiesterTN is a gamers panel type. While color gamut and viewing angles are not the best, the pixel response times are! For high speed/competitive gaming there is no substitute. That is where these new panels from ASUS shine! This is what the complainers fail to understand. So naturally, an IPS panel is going to be a better choice for you and those who do not need/want bleeding edge performance.

While I get that Asus is just refreshing their portfolio for competitive gamers, these panels don't particularly shine at anything, they don't do anything new. Just rehashing existing tech in newish packages (and not even that since the monitor design is pretty old as well). It's just a bleh refresh times 3.
So yeah, disappointment is natural.

RahnakWhile I get that Asus is just refreshing their portfolio for competitive gamers, these panels don't particularly shine at anything, they don't do anything new. Just rehashing existing tech in newish packages (and not even that since the monitor design is pretty old as well). It's just a bleh refresh times 3.
So yeah, disappointment is natural.

You are wrong again. Most of the previous TN 144hz 1080p monitors used the old AUO 24 inch panel from 2011 overclocked from 120hz native to 144hz. These new 24,5 inch models have the new panel with WAY better contrast, no backlight bleed issues, no interlace pattern artifacts as bad as the old one, and lower input lag too.

Acer, AOC, Benq also released new models with these panels. LG and ViewSonic still using the old panel on all their models.

as long it's an improved panel where the current ones that has problems are now gone, I say kudos to the vendors in fixing them. (=w=)b

Manu_PTYou are wrong again. Most of the previous TN 144hz 1080p monitors used the old AUO 24 inch panel from 2011 overclocked from 120hz native to 144hz. These new 24,5 inch models have the new panel with WAY better contrast, no backlight bleed issues, no interlace pattern artifacts as bad as the old one, and lower input lag too.

Acer, AOC, Benq also released new models with these panels. LG and ViewSonic still using the old panel on all their models.

I'm not wrong again as that was my first post in this thread. In any case, I guess those improvements do make this a decent release. I'm not buying the "no backlight bleed issues" part though, but just having that improved is not bad as well.

robbIn 2007 I used a 144 hz TN 1080p monitor so how in the hell is this tiny improvement supposed to be impressive in 2019? And you could not pay me to use TN garbage anymore.

TN has improved a lot over the years, there are some TN's I have seen, on Dell 165hz 24" that I had trouble not feeling it was IPS at times. I still prefer IPS though

RahnakI'm not wrong again as that was my first post in this thread. In any case, I guess those improvements do make this a decent release. I'm not buying the "no backlight bleed issues" part though, but just having that improved is not bad as well.

My mistake, didn´t notice you weren´t the same user, I´m sorry! But I can warranty you these panels don´t suffer from backlight bleed. I also had doubts about it but I had the VG258QR for some days here and can confirm, it has by far the best TN panel I´ve seen. The problem with Asus on their recent models is the overdrive. They try so much to make it responsive, so aggressive, that you end up with awful overshoot. Not as bad on the other models tho (acer, aoc etc).

Also the contrast is a major improvement on these 24,5 AUO 144hz/165hz panels, so are the colours. While the old and usual AUO 24´120hz panel (wich companies overclocked to 144h) had really bad colours and contrast, wich got worse with the 24hz overclock.

Now, these monitors are not geared towards single player gamers for sure. For those, the new Gigabyte Aorus AD27 is a "must" have, IPS 144hz 27 inch 1440p new screen with HDR. These TN panels are for people that spend their time on multiplayer games like Apex, Fortnite, Pubg or Call of Duty.

165hz is a great refresh rate and noticeable compared to 144hz. Also sustaining 160fps is pretty easy on most engines nowadays with modest CPUs. That delivers enough frame times for consistent aim and low input lag.

Manu_PTAlso the contrast is a major improvement on these 24,5 AUO 144hz/165hz panels, so are the colours. While the old and usual AUO 24´120hz panel (wich companies overclocked to 144h) had really bad colours and contrast, wich got worse with the 24hz overclock.

Must be impressive then. I wager the MG248Q I have also has one of those AUO panels you speak of and it already has pretty decent colors for a TN. Not sure if there's a difference between MG and VG models on colors.

The one thing that makes my monitor truly crap is the inability to run at higher refresh rates without issues. Alas, I noticed it too late to return it.

I've got two 8-bit TNs running side by side,and the difference between two TNs can be huge,it needs proper adjusting or else it looks horrible.Once it's well adjusted and comes with proper OSD and factory settings a TN can be more than decent enough for gaming and regular stuff,they're no IPS when it comes to colors and no VAs when ot comes to blacks,but come with NONE of the drawbacks that IPS and VA have and at lower price. XB241YU and S2716DG cost me as much as a 100Hz IPS 3440x1440 panel for both,when I think about that it makes me cringe at what IPS monitors offer at their gross price.
I had an IPS and VA before my current high refresh TNs and while they produce very nice colors they've flaws that come out in everyday use.Exploring caves in witcher 3 on an IPS looked ridiculous given how much it cost me (more than my 165hz TN for a 60hz IPS),dark scenes were silver&yellow with something resembling black only in the center.The VA that I had produced so much smearing that switching to an IPS felt like +10 fps more already,and the only way to solve that is either a native 120hz VA panel or one that does ulmb/other motion blur reduction.