Saturday, June 1st 2019
X499 or X299G? Intel's Fall 2019 HEDT Update Heralds a New Chipset?
Our readers spotted an interesting visual detail that missed us during our coverage of GIGABYTE's three new socket LGA2066 motherboards unveiled at Computex 2019. One of the three boards, the X299S Designare 10G, has the hard-marking "X499" on its CPU VRM heatsink. Another detail that strikes us is that none of the three new boards we pictured has "X299" printed on the PCB anywhere. The Designare 10G has a sticker below the printed GIGABYTE logo that reads "X299G Designare 10G." The purported X299G Aorus Master has another interesting detail: right above the "Aorus Master" print, there's a tiny sticker marked "X299G," positioned as if it's covering up a printed marking on the PCB itself.
All these details lead us to wonder if GIGABYTE tried to cover up that these boards are in fact based on the unannounced X499 Express chipset, and made to appear like they are X299. We only have paper stickers and the booth placards that indicate "X299," while a metal embossing on the Designare 10G's VRM heatsink reads X499. Intel in its Computex 2019 keynote announced that it will introduce new Core X HEDT processors. It's been over 2 years since the first Core X "Skylake-X" processors launched in Q2-2017. Intel refreshed the lineup in 2018 with 9th generation branding and soldered TIM, with a few specification improvements across the product-stack, but a largely unchanged silicon. It's likely that the Fall 2019 release could see new chips with increased core counts, perhaps even the fabled 22-core die, and some hardware mitigation against recent security vulnerabilities.
All these details lead us to wonder if GIGABYTE tried to cover up that these boards are in fact based on the unannounced X499 Express chipset, and made to appear like they are X299. We only have paper stickers and the booth placards that indicate "X299," while a metal embossing on the Designare 10G's VRM heatsink reads X499. Intel in its Computex 2019 keynote announced that it will introduce new Core X HEDT processors. It's been over 2 years since the first Core X "Skylake-X" processors launched in Q2-2017. Intel refreshed the lineup in 2018 with 9th generation branding and soldered TIM, with a few specification improvements across the product-stack, but a largely unchanged silicon. It's likely that the Fall 2019 release could see new chips with increased core counts, perhaps even the fabled 22-core die, and some hardware mitigation against recent security vulnerabilities.
17 Comments on X499 or X299G? Intel's Fall 2019 HEDT Update Heralds a New Chipset?
They do already have the 400/495 series chipsets lined up for "next year", perhaps they want to use the "X499" naming at some point later?
Also if X570 boards gone crazy with VRM quality and power delivery, then the new TR4 boards will be even better and will run the 48C~64C at high clocks, Intel needs new gen, not another refresh .
I do hope prices are adjusted though, not because the market demands it until Threadripper 3 arrives, but because it's been two years since the last adjustment.Cascade Lake-X will be a refresh, featuring tweaks, cache adjustments, AVX additions and higher clocks. So there is nothing to get very excited about, but that doesn't make it less of a solid product, for the time being it will be the best performing HEDT lineup.
Threadripper 3 will certainly be interesting when it arrives, but don't expect it to crush Intel in IPC based on Cinebench scores. The viability of Threadripper 3 as a good HEDT platform will also depend on how well the new chiplet design deals with latency. For workstations, real world performance is what matters, not fancy specs.
Same chipsæt, same socket, still 14 nm, more or less same core count.
So far i am really gonna believe that amd is really gonna win this round. Because as i am a intel man, but lets face it, amd ryzen 3000 looks far more interesting this time than intels offering for not to mention the price difference. If amd new chips can have single core performance like intels 9000 cpu gen and can overclock to around 4.7-4-8 ghz with the price range they are at. Amd is really stading strong.
X399 will just amplify that two-fold, and possibly further
Setting up compute clusters will even further enhance the choice for pay-less get-more.
Intel needs to wake up and stop selling 8-10 core HEDT CPUs for 600-900$
Intel needs to push AVX-512 optimizations.
Intel's new Icelake supports AVX 512.
Having more 256 bit wide instructions is way more useful right now that anything else. Remember that these things aren't interchangeable, the performance of 2x256bit cannot be matched by 1x512bit. More narrower vector instruction are more robust. It seems to me that whoever gets to decide these things at Intel seems out of touch with the real world, there so many anomalies such as desktop Pentiums not having AVX support but low power M Core products do.
But this is the chicken and the egg problem again.Not really.
While SSE is of course much faster than single FPU operations, vector workloads scale very well on AVX2 and AVX-512. But the software have to be readjusted and recompiled to support it. Luckily, changing code from AVX -> AVX2 -> AVX-512 is nearly trivial.
SSE is BTW on it's way to being deprecated.Intel have 2x512-bit on Skylake-X/SP.