Thursday, August 29th 2019

AMD Makes Gains in GPU Shipments in Q2-2019: Jon Peddie Research

The PC GPU market sequentially increased by 0.6% in Q2'19, decreased year-to-year by -10.4% This is the latest report from Jon Peddie Research on the GPUs used in PCs. It is reporting on the results of Q2'19 GPU shipments world-wide. AMD shipments increased 9.8% NVIDIA was flat and Intel's shipments, decreased -1.4% as indicated in the following chart.

Even though there is uncertainty in the notebook supply chain, there has been a record number of new notebook announcements, and systems with amazing specifications in performance, battery life, and screen resolution. Specialized notebooks that sit somewhere between workstations and enthusiast PCs are arriving on the market for creative professionals. Strong graphics subsystems are an important selling point for these machines.
In seasonal cycles of the past, overall graphics shipments in the second quarter are typically down from the previous quarter. For Q2'19, it increased by 0.6% from last quarter and was greater than the ten-year average of -2%.

This quarter's shipments of total graphics processors (integrated/embedded and discrete) increased 0.6% from the previous quarter, which is a decline in the ten-year average historical rate of 0.9%. A total of 76.7 million units were shipped in Q2'19 which decreased by -8.93 million units from the same quarter a year ago indicating the market is negative. on a year-to-year basis.

Quick highlights
  • AMD's overall unit shipments increased 9.85% quarter-to-quarter, Intel's total shipments decreased -1.44% from last quarter, and NVIDIA's decreased -0.04%.
  • The attach rate of GPUs (includes integrated and discrete GPUs) to PCs for the quarter was 120% which was down -10.38% from last quarter.
  • Discrete GPUs were in 26.95% of PCs,down -1.99% from last quarter.
  • The overall PC market increased by 9.25% quarter-to-quarter and increased by 3.07% year-to-year.
  • Desktop graphics add-in boards (AIBs) that use discrete GPUs decreased -16.62% from last quarter.
  • Q2'19 saw a decrease in tablet shipments from last quarter.
The second quarter is typically down from the previous quarter, however, this quarter saw an increase.

GPUs are traditionally a leading indicator of the market, since a GPU goes into every system before it is shipped, and most of the PC vendors are guiding optimistically for next quarter, an average of 13%.

JPR also publishes a series of reports on the PC Gaming Hardware Market, which covers the total market including system and accessories, and looks at 31 countries.

Pricing and Availability
JPR's Market Watch is available now in both electronic and hard copy editions and sells for $2,750. Included with this report is an Excel workbook with the data used to create the charts, the charts themselves, and supplemental information. The annual subscription price for JPR's Market Watch is $5,500 and includes four quarterly issues. Full subscribers to JPR services receive Tech Watch (the company's bi-weekly report) and a copy of Market Watch as part of their subscription.
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39 Comments on AMD Makes Gains in GPU Shipments in Q2-2019: Jon Peddie Research

#26
1d10t
Hey btarunr, that graph seem off, are that RTX On ?

:D
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#27
RoutedScripter
Who the hell makes such charts mixing discrete with integrated graphics, totally invalid.
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#28
kapone32
notb, post: 4106843, member: 165619"
I'm quite astonished by the comments. :/

The reason why AMD beat Nvidia in this comparison is not their discrete GPUs (which are still rubbish and don't sell very well).

What planet do you live on? AMD GPUs are rubbish??? So the Rx 570, 580, 590, 5700, 5700XT and Vega cards are all garbage (another word for rubbish) and BTW according to Amazon the RX 570/580 has the 3 of the top 5 sales. Maybe if you actually owned an AMD based GPU you would not make such an uninformed comment.
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#29
yakk
Always interesting to see JPR's report teasers, and more accurate than Steam due to well documented issues with their reporting especially in Asian countries.

I would imagine this is probably near best case scenario to what AMD were expecting and kicks wide open the doors to the rest of their Navi launch products.

Now as AMD themselves keep repeating, they need to follow through and execute properly. The Navi mid-tier launch went very well for them even without AIB models added in yet.
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#30
notb
kapone32, post: 4107214, member: 181865"
What planet do you live on? AMD GPUs are rubbish??? So the Rx 570, 580, 590, 5700, 5700XT and Vega cards are all garbage (another word for rubbish) and BTW according to Amazon the RX 570/580 has the 3 of the top 5 sales.
You must be one of those people who don't understand numbers and can't read graphs very well. :eek:
AMD has around 30% of discrete GPU share - that doesn't include CPU IGPs, but it includes laptops and Macs.
End of story.
Who cares how many Radeons are there in top5 on Amazon?
I bet you're also a fan of Mindfactory CPU sales figures. ;-)
Maybe if you actually owned an AMD based GPU you would not make such an uninformed comment.
You don't need to have an AMD GPU to know that you'd be happier with something from Nvidia. That's why reviews and benchmarks exist.
Similarly, you don't need to have AIDS to know it's worse than influenza. Someone has already checked.

vega22, post: 4107120, member: 41040"
Either way they can get fucked at five and a half grand for 4 reports a year.
The price is fairly normal. That's what consulting companies ask for this kind of standarized market research. It's fairly hard to make and there aren't that many buyers.

If millions of people wanted this kind of information, some publisher would do the same job and put the results in a $5 PC magazine.

RoutedScripter, post: 4107210, member: 66408"
Who the hell makes such charts mixing discrete with integrated graphics, totally invalid.
Why invalid?

Keep in mind that JPR makes this research for enterprises, not for gamers. You may not benefit, but someone surely does. :-)
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#31
kapone32
You must be one of those people who don't understand numbers and can't read graphs very well. :eek:
AMD has around 30% of discrete GPU share - that doesn't include CPU IGPs, but it includes laptops and Macs.
End of story.
Who cares how many Radeons are there in top5 on Amazon?
I bet you're also a fan of Mindfactory CPU sales figures. ;-)


I was not talking about the graphs. I was responding to the comment "AMD GPUs are rubbish". BTW AMD GPU share was 22% this time last year. Who cares about Radeons in top 5? Is not Amazon one of the top 3 online computer parts sales shops? If it included IGPs the share would be even higher as some of AMD's best sales are the 2200G and 2400G. It is obvious to me that you are someone that is biased against AMD for even mentioning the mindfactory. Oh well I guess I must be an AMD fanboy. So much so that I bought their stock at $4 when Ryzen was about to launch but who laughs hardest now, me at the stock at $31.25 per share. If that is not an indication of how well AMD is doing I don't know what is. We will always have those who think Nvidia is so much better than anything AMD has so is the 1060 faster than a RX580. Is the 5700XT slower than a 2070 (Not super)?

You don't need to have an AMD GPU to know that you'd be happier with something from Nvidia. That's why reviews and benchmarks exist.

Of course there have been no positive reviews for AMD GPUs :laugh: and in benchmarks if an AMD GPU gives you 120 FPS and NVIDIA gives you 130 FPS on a 60HZ refresh screen how does that translate to being better? Yes the 2080TI is 30% faster than the 5700XT in most games but it is also $1400+ dollars in Canada vs $500+ for the 5700XT so almost 200% cost increase for 30% more performance....that is a smart move indeed :D
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#32
Captain_Tom
notb, post: 4107264, member: 165619"
You don't need to have an AMD GPU to know that you'd be happier with something from Nvidia. That's why reviews and benchmarks exist.
Similarly, you don't need to have AIDS to know it's worse than influenza. Someone has already checked.
Why do I even poke my head into this fanboy den anymore? LOL wow.

This clown (1) says you will always be happier with Nvidia, and then (2) compares AMD to AIDS (and nvidia to the flu?!). Sorry I am just blown away by how logical and open-minded these arguments are...

notb, post: 4107264, member: 165619"
You must be one of those people who don't understand numbers and can't read graphs very well. :eek:

Who cares how many Radeons are there in top5 on Amazon?
I bet you're also a fan of Mindfactory CPU sales figures. ;-)

Keep in mind that JPR makes this research for enterprises, not for gamers. You may not benefit, but someone surely does. :)
I love your sources count, but his don't. Again - brilliant brain right here arguing.
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#33
notb
kapone32, post: 4107282, member: 181865"
I was not talking about the graphs. I was responding to the comment "AMD GPUs are rubbish". BTW AMD GPU share was 22% this time last year. Who cares about Radeons in top 5? Is not Amazon one of the top 3 online computer parts sales shops?
We have statistics for the whole market. Looking at a particular store makes no sense. Why can't you get it?

Also, for someone having over 900 posts on this forum, you're surprisingly bad at quoting. Please do it properly - it's hard to read your replies.
Captain_Tom, post: 4107307, member: 155434"
I love your sources count, but his don't. Again - brilliant brain right here arguing.
Yes, a market-wide research of GPU sales "counts more" than looking at a single store that supports one's hypothesis.
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#34
medi01
jabbadap, post: 4106830, member: 148195"
That's fine and we agree to disagree...

Just saying that this report and Steam hw survey counts a bit different use space and by that are not even very comparable. Their AIB board reports are more inline with what Steam tries to collect, but even with those are collecting different stats. Jon Peddie collect quantity of sold skus by quarters, steam collects it's user space hardware old and new...

And in speaking of AIB reports, AMD has raised quite bit market share on just released AIB board report, too. Great product with great price sell.

Curios that even in discrete GPU market it is 2 to 1 and not what one would think, looking at Steam reports.
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#35
notb
medi01, post: 4107510, member: 158537"
Curios that even in discrete GPU market it is 2 to 1 and not what one would think, looking at Steam reports.
2:1 ratio is for desktop discrete GPUs.
Gaming notebooks are dominated by Nvidia.
This alone likely takes us close to the 5:1 on the Steam survey.

On top of that you have minor effects:
Mac's are AMD exclusive and hardly ever used for games.
AMD used to be more popular in poorer countries, where Steam is not used as much.
etc
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#36
Vayra86
Its not so hard guys, Intel has the lion's share and this is not a place for bickering over 'AMD won something GPUish or not'... the gist of the article here is that after a loooong decline, AMD is showing gains again.

Another fact is that those gains are taken from Intel. We're looking at Ryzen's success here more than anything else, and this has zero value wrt how GPUs are popular or not...
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#37
rvalencia
notb, post: 4107524, member: 165619"
2:1 ratio is for desktop discrete GPUs.
Gaming notebooks are dominated by Nvidia.
This alone likely takes us close to the 5:1 on the Steam survey.

On top of that you have minor effects:
Mac's are AMD exclusive and hardly ever used for games.
AMD used to be more popular in poorer countries, where Steam is not used as much.
etc
Your "gaming notebook" argument is a red herring to



Also, Vega 10 mobile beats MX130 and nearly MX150, rivals DDR3 MX150 variants.

Vega 8 mobile beats MX130.

notb, post: 4107264, member: 165619"
You must be one of those people who don't understand numbers and can't read graphs very well. :eek:
AMD has around 30% of discrete GPU share - that doesn't include CPU IGPs, but it includes laptops and Macs.
End of story.
Vega IGPs are not exlusive to desktop PCs.
Vega GL with Intel CPUs are not AIB PCI-E add-on cards, IGP with VRAM chip by MCM.
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#38
medi01
Vayra86, post: 4108288, member: 152404"
... the gist of the article here is that after a loooong decline, AMD is showing gains again.
Well, given how popular Steam's BS hardware surveys are, this actually IS news (AIB only):

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#39
notb
rvalencia, post: 4108346, member: 99935"
Your "gaming notebook" argument is a red herring to
Why?
Also, Vega 10 mobile beats MX130 and nearly MX150, rivals DDR3 MX150 variants.

Vega 8 mobile beats MX130.
So? How is it relevant here?
Vega IGPs are not exlusive to desktop PCs.
?
I just said that AMD's share is likely thanks to mobile.
What do you want...?
Vega GL with Intel CPUs are not AIB PCI-E add-on cards, IGP with VRAM chip by MCM.
How many laptops use AIB add-on cards? :o

Could you write another comment and rephrase what you wanted to say?
Because in that one there are just a few sentences - loosely connected with each other (let alone the thread...).
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