Friday, November 29th 2019

AMD Radeon RX 5500 To Launch Come December 12th

According to a source cited by China's Ithome, AMD has contacted AIB with regards to launch plans for the company's RX 5500, the mainstream graphics cards based on Navi 14. For now, there are still no news on any RX 5500 XT graphics cards from the company - whether or not there is such as SKU being prepared for later launch is still unclear. The launch date of December 12th is in line with previous release expectations, and should be a full launch with multiple AIB partners releasing their solutions.

The RX 5500 has been tested to be a competitor to NVIDIA's GTX 1660 graphics card, replacing AMD's RX 570, RX 580 and RX 590 graphics cards from the product stack. The Navi 14 chip that the RX 5500 is based on TSMC's 7 nm manufacturing technology, is configured with 22 RDNA compute units (1,408 stream processors), and features a 128-bit wide GDDR6 memory bus. VRAM-wise it will be available in either 4 GB or 8 GB of memory running at 14 Gbps data-rate, yielding 224 GB/s of memory bandwidth. GPU clocks are listed as 1670 MHz "Boost," and 1845 MHz "Gaming". Typical board power is rated at 110 W, with a single 8-pin PCIe power input being enough to deliver required power save for some more exotic AIB designs.
Source: ITHome
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36 Comments on AMD Radeon RX 5500 To Launch Come December 12th

#26
Ergastolano
fancucker
Then learn to assess the product through good tech review sites such as this one. Assuming you read the review above you're knowledgable enough to make an independent assessment of whether the product is good enough for you.
LoL. where and when I have written and said that the product is not good?. LoL man. But don't worry, you're right. :laugh::nutkick::toast::D
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#27
EarthDog
FordGT90Concept
All I'm going to say is that December 12 is a big day for Navi.
What do you believe will be "big" for a budget 1080p GPU?
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#28
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
All I'm saying is that people on the fence about Navi should consider waiting (if they can) until the RX 5500 launches (which OP says is December 12). I didn't intend to convey any more meaning than that.
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#29
EarthDog
FordGT90Concept
All I'm saying is that people on the fence about Navi should consider waiting (if they can) until the RX 5500 launches (which OP says is December 12). I didn't intend to convey any more meaning than that.
Ahh...gotcha. The "big day for navi" threw me off.

If I had to guess...it is looking like 1650 Super to 1660 performance with higher power draw and similar pricing. I don't imagine it to be earth shattering, but a good option in its space.
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#31
Chrispy_
dabuet
I was interested in buying the 5700XT these days, but according to several forums there are still driver issues for example stuttering, frame drops. Isnt the 5500 like to have the same problems?
As someone who moves both AMD and Nvidia hardware around a lot (it's part of my day job) I've found a lot of the "stuttering, frame drops" issues aren't GPU-specific, or even driver-specific:

What has caught me out multiple times with stuttering/hitching is using the game/application config from a previous graphics card. If you can clear the ini files or reset all graphics options to default again, that often solves stuttering and frame drops that occur even when the CPU/GPU are capable of vastly higher frame rates than necessary.

My guess is that there are dozens of different permutations of refresh rate/buffering method/v-sync type/render-ahead limits that game engines and application settings save somewhere and those settings that work best for Nvidia doesn't necessarily work well for AMD and vice-versa.

A common issue with moving from Nvidia to AMD is 1 stutter/hitch a second when gaming and usually setting vsync and buffering to "application decides" in the driver and then turning vsync off/on again solves it for me.
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#32
EarthDog
Chrispy_
I've found a lot of the "stuttering, frame drops" issues aren't GPU-specific, or even driver-specific:
Oh yeah? Perhaps sometimes it can be managed by resetting settings, but....

Here is a release note/fix from yesterday's AMD driver launch.....
Radeon RX 5700 series graphics products may experience stutter in some games at 1080p and low game settings.
clearly these issues are real (and on both sides at times). But he seems to have a valid concern. The good news is, this driver addresses that issue. :)
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#33
Chrispy_
EarthDog
Oh yeah? Perhaps some times it can be managed by resetting settings, but....

Here is a release note/fix from yesterday's AMD driver launch.....
I didn't guaranatee that was a fix for every instance. Maybe 4/5 times I encounter it, the problem can be resolved by resetting or choosing the right settings. As you point out, sometimes there are known issues that require game-dev or GPU driver updates to resolve.
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#34
EarthDog
Chrispy_
I didn't guaranatee that was a fix for every instance. Maybe 4/5 times I encounter it, the problem can be resolved by resetting or choosing the right settings. As you point out, sometimes there are known issues that require game-dev or GPU driver updates to resolve.
I didn't say you did (I even said sometimes it can be fixed that way.....................o_O). I was simply stating that his concerns are legit and AMD has addressed them. ;)
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#35
Chrispy_
The only complaints I now have with Navi (but have definitely identified as Navi-specific) are super-obscure
  • Scaled Powerpoint video previews go to hell, but Powerpoint plays the video just fine in full-screen and any other player can deal with those videos in a scaled windows without issue.
  • Pre-boot display detection is wonky on the reference cards - both the 5700XT and the 5700 can hang if a display is detected but not contactable (display is asleep but connected). Easy to workaround (wake up the display before booting PC)
Given that we're still in the first 6 months of a new GPU architecture, I'm actually reasonably impressed with AMD's driver team. It's not been perfect but aside from some wonky pre-launch drivers given to reviewers, most of the major issues were dealt with in the first month or so and the list of minor annoyances is being whittled down at a non-trivial pace.

I'd have less tolerance of AMD's driver hiccups if Nvidia was flawless but whilst Nvidia has the dominant marketshare and game-dev attention, their insistance on locking excellent features behind the sign-in-so-we-can-harvest-your-usage-data Geforce Experience really irks me, as does the fact that the control panel is a Windows XP relic and that Nvidia still don't offer any official control of fan speeds or clockspeeds in their driver.
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#36
EarthDog
You should report those issues so they can be confirmed and resolved.

It's funny you mention tolerance for problems, but for the nvidia side only mention log in for GFE. I get you there I do...but as an enthusiast, I've only installed GFE to see what it was about. I encourage all who have half a clue to never install it. Those without, go for it. I dont know, I see the beef you have, just think there are bigger fish to fry than an outdated (but perfectly functional and ergonomic) control panel and logging in to receive all features. :)

Though you have a point with the fan control...that said, if you need to adjust it, chances are you have downloaded the card's software anyway.
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