Monday, December 30th 2019

Intel 10th Gen Core "Comet Lake" Lineup and Specs Revealed

Ahead of a possible reveal in the sidelines of CES, followed by an early-Q2 2020 product-launch, company slides detailing Intel's 10th generation Core desktop processors in the LGA1200 package, codenamed "Comet Lake-S," leaked to the web courtesy Informatica Cero. They confirm that HyperThreading will play a key role, with Intel enabling it across the lineup. The range-topping Core i9 series will be 10-core/20-thread along with 20 MB of L3 cache. The Core i7 series will be 8-core/16-thread, along with 16 MB L3 cache. The all-important Core i5 series will be 6-core/12-thread, equipped with 12 MB of L3 cache. The Core i3 series will have two sub-tiers: i3-103xx series with 4-core/8-thread and 8 MB L3 cache; and i3-101xx series 4-core/8-thread with 6 MB L3 cache.

The Core i7 and Core i9 "Comet Lake" chips will feature native support for dual-channel DDR4-2933, while the Core i5 and Core i3 will make do with native DDR4-2667 support (memory overclocking possible). Besides core/thread counts, and cache size increases, Intel will dial up clock speeds across the board by as much as 300 MHz per SKU (vs. their 9th gen predecessor), and introduce Turbo Boost Max 3.0, which has been exclusive to its HEDT processors. The introduction of Turbo Boost Max 3.0 could also bring about modern favored-core capability (benefiting Windows 10 1909 and later). The classic Turbo Boost is also available. There's also a mysterious new feature called "Thermal Velocity Boost," with its own set of clock-speeds depending on core/thread load. The chips could also feature Modern Standby C10 power-state support (first to the desktop platform). Intel is said to have also added several new core and memory overclocking features on the K-SKUs.
Built on a 14 nm-class silicon fabrication node, and featuring the same IPC as "Skylake," the 10th generation Core "Comet Lake" series will rely on aggressive power-management to sustain 65 W TDP rating for most SKUs, but Intel's virtual barrier for 95 W as the TDP number for unlocked K SKUs ends with the 10 generation (the i9-9900KS already breaks that). The 10th generation Core K SKUs have a scorching 125 W TDP rating not just for the 10-core i9-10900K and 8-core i7-10700K, but also the 6-core i5-10600K. The table above details the various SKUs we could make out from the low image-quality slide screenshots.
Sources: Informatica Cero, VideoCardz
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82 Comments on Intel 10th Gen Core "Comet Lake" Lineup and Specs Revealed

#51
JackCarver
My poor i3 8086K Special 40year Anniversary Edition i3, lolol. :roll:
Yeah but your i3 beats AMDs Ryzen 3700X in gaming. So it's not a bad CPU like my i7 8700K. Wouldn't change it for an 3700X.
Depends on your use case...
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#52
E-curbi
JackCarver
Yeah but your i3 beats AMDs Ryzen 3700X in gaming. So it's not a bad CPU like my i7 8700K. Wouldn't change it for an 3700X.
Depends on your use case...
your 8700K isn't a bad CPU at all. :)
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#53
goodeedidid
Those locked CPUs look great on paper, you could probably even cool them with small air-coolers, perfect for small builds. OCing unlocked CPUs is becoming unnecessary imo and a waste of time for 98% of use case scenarios.
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#54
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goodeedidid
Those unlocked CPUs look great on paper, you could probably even cool them with small air-coolers, perfect for small builds. OCing unlocked CPUs is becoming unnecessary imo and a waste of time for 98% of use case scenarios.
What about getting work completed quickly needing only a maximum of 10threads at most continuous for your work applications?

Wouldn't you want to run the highest possible clock speeds for those 10threads?

OK, maybe that use case represents the unspoken 2%. :)
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#55
WHOFOUNDFUNGUS
E-curbi
your 8700K isn't a bad CPU at all. :)
All Intel CPUs are bad CPUs if Intel can't give their client official assurance that adequate mitigation for Spectre/Meltdown at the architectural level actually exists.

How much can you trust them when they keep on saying they "fixed" it when they keep on failing? Anyone here watch LEVEL ONE TECHS?
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#56
goodeedidid
E-curbi
What about getting work completed quickly needing only a maximum of 10threads at most continuous for your work applications?

Wouldn't you want to run the highest possible clock speeds for those 10threads?

OK, maybe that use case represents the unspoken 2%. :)
Let's say 10 years ago yes, but are those incremental gains really worth it the time and money like bigger coolers and tinkering with trial/error until you get to the sweet spot, it just sounds so 2010 not to mention 2002.

I watch a lot of photography and film-making youtubers and overclocking computers has never been even mention once as a factor in production and work-flow. They just buy the best for editing machines like Mac Pros or what have you on the PC side of things and call it a day.

Only PC-gamers are still kinda obsessed with it.
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#57
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WHOFOUNDFUNGUS
All Intel CPUs are bad CPUs if Intel can't give their client official assurance that adequate mitigation for Spectre/Meltdown at the architectural level actually exists.

How much can you trust them when they keep on saying they "fixed" it when they keep on failing? Anyone here watch LEVEL ONE TECHS?
I watch Level One Techs, you mean the amazing Wendell?

Picked up a SpaceCo monitor arm waaaaay back when Wendell use to hide behind that cluster of them lol on Teksyndicate. I only have a single arm, Wendell had like (6) monitor arms at once. :)

http://www.spaceco.com//monitorarm.php

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#58
goodeedidid
E-curbi
I watch Level One Techs, you mean the amazing Wendell?

Picked up a SpaceCo monitor arm waaaaay back when Wendell use to hide behind that cluster of them lol on Teksyndicate. I only have a single arm, Wendell had like (6) monitor arms at once. :)

http://www.spaceco.com//monitorarm.php


I got Humanscale monitor stands, they are amazing imo.
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#59
WHOFOUNDFUNGUS
Ha ha ha I remember that :laugh:. Wendell probably hid behind that cluster because he wasn't sure if he wanted to be associated with the Syndicate. Yeah, Ryan and Wendell keep on giving Spectre/Meltdown updates because the variants have not stopped and 98% + of Intel's chips are still vulnerable.
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#60
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goodeedidid
Let's say 10 years ago yes, but are those incremental gains really worth it the time and money like bigger coolers and tinkering with trial/error until you get to the sweet spot, it just sounds so 2010 not to mention 2002.

I watch a lot of photography and film-making youtubers and overclocking computers has never been even mention once as a factor in production and work-flow. They just buy the best for editing machines like Mac Pros or what have you on the PC side of things and call it a day.

Only PC-gamers are still kinda obsessed with it.
Increased fps for gamers, that's cool, I use overclocks for work apps.

Overclocking a CPU really can increase your responsiveness - zippiness you feel and time saved completing any task when working with files transferring a very long document from one text format to another, completing single word searches within 50 or so reference documents and single/multiple word edits within a book, also category redundancy backups to multiple drives both internal and external.

The same type of faster responsiveness and lower latency and time saving offered by high speed ddr4 and NVMe Optane low QD1 and QD2 super low 10microsecond latency.

CPU overclocking
DDR4 overclocking - higher speeds and lower latency
Primary OS drive super low latency for QD1 and QD2

These (3) components really help completing work quickly. For a work PC. :)

Superfast storage (and pull from reference) drives also would contribute to working quickly if using large files, but I only use small to medium size files so SATA 2.5inch backup drives are simply awesome for the price.

:)
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#61
_Flare
For the "K" Intels with 125W TDP on any Z-Board this means they will use 125W+25% = 156W "out of the box" in nearly all Out-of-the-Box scenarios. Thats a lot.
Thats 2.4x the long-term 65W TDP
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#62
jabbadap
xorbe
i7 8700K demoted to i3, lol.
E-curbi
:D

My poor i3 8086K Special 40year Anniversary Edition i3, lolol. :roll:

Intel's silly product stacking - flagship promotional marketing. lol

NO IPC improvements since the 8700K/8086K, just adding cores +2 then +2 more along with additional internal factory reclocks since 2017. :laugh:

...they gotta do what they gotta do. :rolleyes:
You mean demoted to i5...
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#63
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WHOFOUNDFUNGUS
Ha ha ha I remember that :laugh:. Wendell probably hid behind that cluster because he wasn't sure if he wanted to be associated with the Syndicate. Yeah, Ryan and Wendell keep on giving Spectre/Meltdown updates because the variants have not stopped and 98% + of Intel's chips are still vulnerable.
I can understand why. lol :laugh: Wendell so professional and cool, those other characters, YIKES! :eek:

I wouldn't invite those others in the Syndicate to a dinner party. :roll:





:roll:
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#64
WHOFOUNDFUNGUS
Well, I confess I rather did enjoy the intro music to Tech Syndicate when Wendell was there but that Logan guy was a bit creepy. Maybe his mom was a Goth girl. I dunno.

Did you see the video where their side kick guy got "chipped" and fainted?
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#65
Slizzo
davideneco
Z490 only MB with oc

nice shintel
Unless I'm mistaken, it's been this way forever.
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#66
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WHOFOUNDFUNGUS
Well, I confess I rather did enjoy the intro music to Tech Syndicate when Wendell was there but that Logan guy was a bit creepy. Maybe his mom was a Goth girl. I dunno.

Did you see the video where their side kick guy got "chipped" and fainted?
:) Watched a little of the fallout and separation - crazy. :rolleyes:

Wendell and Logan obverse sides of the same coin. lol

Only youtube I keep up with now is Gamer's Nexus coverage at CES and Computex and Der8auer and Buildzoid only when new chipsets CPUs are launched examined delidded.

Guess, I'm out of the youtube loop.

...and I feel good about it. :D
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#67
candle_86
jabbadap
Not sure I would like that, unlocked 4c/8t sounds just better for the consistence: i9 10c/20t, i7 8c/16t, i5 6c/12t and i3 4c/8t.

Just have a feeling that those unlocked chips are pushed to the limit already... OC of cpus is a bit dying breed. More limiting factor for those locked CPUs is that low TDP rating, pair them with lower end board and you get a very throttling piece of personal calculator.
I'd be far more interested if they improved Pentium and Celeron, there are still plenty of people buying 300-400 dollar towers for basic home use getting screwed by these lousy CPUs.
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#68
WHOFOUNDFUNGUS
E-curbi
:) Watched a little of the fallout and separation - crazy. :rolleyes:

Wendell and Logan obverse sides of the same coin. lol

Only youtube I keep up with now is Gamer's Nexus coverage at CES and Computex and Der8auer and Buildzoid only when new chipsets CPUs are launched examined delidded.

Guess, I'm out of the youtube loop.

...and I feel good about it. :D
Level One Techs is definitely an improvement. Methinks most of the Tek Syndicate crowd followed after Wendell when he left. My wife likes Krista too and I think that's a good thing. I don't mean to crash the thread here but it's really hard for me to take Intel seriously when so many keep ignoring the the elephant in the room donning the block letters SPECTRE/MELTDOWN. I like DerBauer and Bulldzoid too. I should start a thread about something Buildzoid said that I'm slightly inclined to disagree with. That doesn't change my regard for the lad. He definitely fills a much needed niche.
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#69
HugsNotDrugs
The mainstream flagship 7700k 4c8t CPU was released not so long ago in 2017. As of 2019 we have double the core for the same price, and more importantly competition is still heating up.

What a wonderful time to be alive.
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#70
Metroid
Crackong
lols the Thermal velocity Boost :roll:

Are we getting a new kind of boost every year?

2021 - Vector Unidirectional Boost
2022 - Space Continuum Boost
2023 - Quantum Entanglement Boost
the next one is the bullshit boost which they will name the bb technology boost.
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#71
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HugsNotDrugs
The mainstream flagship 7700k 4c8t CPU was released not so long ago in 2017. As of 2019 we have double the core for the same price, and more importantly competition is still heating up.

What a wonderful time to be alive.
Yes but, sitting on the bleeding edge of single thread technology is so God-awful long with zero improvement over time and so lonely I'm about to break down. :cry:

sniffle, sniffle.

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#72
micropage7
TesterAnon
And they are still selling locked CPUs, they just never learn.
If they lower the price much, i will consider it's relevant
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#73
AusWolf
BArms
Why are Intel dragging their feet on PCIe 4.0? SSD's are already right at the bandwidth limit that 3.0 x4 can provide.
Good point. One more reason to switch to AMD, or wait another year.

HugsNotDrugs
The mainstream flagship 7700k 4c8t CPU was released not so long ago in 2017. As of 2019 we have double the core for the same price, and more importantly competition is still heating up.

What a wonderful time to be alive.
Another question is what you do with all those cores. My i7-7700 shows about 60% usage at most in every game I play. If you need a CPU for work, that's a totally different story, but I don't.
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#74
Skylinestar
HugsNotDrugs
The mainstream flagship 7700k 4c8t CPU was released not so long ago in 2017. As of 2019 we have double the core for the same price, and more importantly competition is still heating up.

What a wonderful time to be alive.
2nd hand market is still full of expensive 6700, 7700 and 7700k.
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#75
quadibloc
That they're gunning for AMD, but they're not dropping the integrated GPU, they're still using a 14nm process, and they're not making any multi-chip modules, it's all monolithic... Intel apparently isn't satisfied just to beat AMD. It is willing to let AMD take the lead, unless it can beat AMD with one hand tied behind its back! I think Intel's stockholders should have a little talk with its management.
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