Monday, January 6th 2020
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X Pricing and Availability Detailed
AMD will update its 3rd generation Ryzen Threadripper product stack sooner than expected. The flagship 64-core/128-thread Ryzen Threadripper 3990X will be available to purchase on February 7, 2020, priced at USD $3,990. The company debuted the "Zen 2" based 3rd gen Threadripper family last November with the 24-core Threadripper 3960X and the 32-core Threadripper 3970X, while teasing the 64-core flagship, the 3990X. AMD detailed this halo-flagship product some more at its 2020 CES event. Designed for the TRX40 platform in the sTRX4 package, the 3990X is differentiated from 64-core EPYC "Rome" products with its narrower monolithic quad-channel memory interface (compared to 8-channel for EPYCs).
The Ryzen Threadripper 3990X ships with clock-speeds of 2.90 GHz with 4.30 GHz boost, a gargantuan 288 MB of total cache (L2 + L3), and the same I/O as the 3970X: 4-channel memory interface with support for up to 2 TB of memory; a PCI-Express 4.0 x8 pipe to the TRX40 chipset, and up to three gen 4.0 x16 links to the processor package. AMD also showed a performance sneak-peak, comparing a machine with a single 3990X squaring off against a machine with 2P Intel Xeon Platinum 8280 processors that add up to 56 cores and 112 threads. In the side-by-side V-Ray render test, the 3990X emerged 30% faster than the Intel setup, but here's the kicker: the 3990X "only" costs $3,990, versus $20,000 for the 2P Xeon 8280 (processors alone). The HEDT chip also supports ECC memory.
The Ryzen Threadripper 3990X ships with clock-speeds of 2.90 GHz with 4.30 GHz boost, a gargantuan 288 MB of total cache (L2 + L3), and the same I/O as the 3970X: 4-channel memory interface with support for up to 2 TB of memory; a PCI-Express 4.0 x8 pipe to the TRX40 chipset, and up to three gen 4.0 x16 links to the processor package. AMD also showed a performance sneak-peak, comparing a machine with a single 3990X squaring off against a machine with 2P Intel Xeon Platinum 8280 processors that add up to 56 cores and 112 threads. In the side-by-side V-Ray render test, the 3990X emerged 30% faster than the Intel setup, but here's the kicker: the 3990X "only" costs $3,990, versus $20,000 for the 2P Xeon 8280 (processors alone). The HEDT chip also supports ECC memory.
49 Comments on AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X Pricing and Availability Detailed
If this was $2,500 to $3,000, this would be very attractive to the hardcore HEDT enthusiasts, especially since they have to pay for the jump to a TRX40 motherboard and higher-clocked 3200MHz DDR4 ECC memory.
Price increases are warranted. AMD is dominating in the space.
3970X - 32 cores at $2000 (the real replacement for the 2990WX, because they're both 32 cores - shock horror)
3990X - 64 cores at $3990
3990X overpriced? Seriously? It's going for exactly what was expected.
3D rendering is pretty much the best case senario for the 2990WX and it barely keeps up with the 3960X.
www.anandtech.com/show/15044/the-amd-ryzen-threadripper-3960x-and-3970x-review-24-and-32-cores-on-7nm/5
Even 24c/48t is more than what I know what to do with.
I need the IO on HEDT but I am not quite sure if I want to shell out for new mobo + CPU.
The issue with Zen right now is the core count is restricted by the dual CCX per chiplet design.
With Zen3 and the alleged redesign, they can make odd-cores chiplets and lets say make a 20-core Threadripper for $1000.
More seriously, a powerful cpu that kicks Intel right there where it hurts the most. But to the price of 3999 USD, I think I can be pleased with less in form of ryzen 9 3950X to replace my old i7 980x.
Go buy a 64 core epyc then.
Cut just as well be Intel ceo reaction I think:laugh:
Corrections (and making a complete fool out of myself) were made in my further replies.
3970X at $1800 ($200 less, launch price of the 2990WX) would be more palpable for moving to 32-cores on TRX40. Although 3990WX at $3200 to $3400 would be better.
EPYC 7742 is currently selling for just $6950 which is completely screwing over Intel's Xeon Platinum.
It's all in vain, because the next-gen NVIDIA GPU will be both 50% faster (then what?) and use 50% less power (then what?) and probably be 50% cheaper (then what?), and will render the mentioned V-RAY scene in real-time, in 4k with active player interaction, probably with stable 360+Hz (for a new G-Sync flavour) in time of <5min... It will probably work without CPU, because (like) no one will need one...
Because, like, it so easy for their hardware acceleration to bypass current 20-30x gap between CPU and GPU RT/RP render... Mr. Huang invented whole new math, glory glory hallelujah! Another non-Euclidian one, I would bet - Lovecraft be praised... Mr. Huang, yo non-euclidian shader so fast, it renders light ray faster than the light can travel... just few millions times faster, because rays so few in 3D scene...
/Sarcastic mode off/
This is very important advancement, because all of the sudden, all that power is relatively available to single user. Personally, I can't think what I'd do with the power like that, but some others probably can - it effectively allows users to have high-grade (server? workstation?) hardware at relatively low price - and that is effectively breaking Moore's law from a view quite different - the price one. If the trend continues, we will be able to afford CPUs in previously unheard price range...
With EPYC /Threadripper you either use 2/4/6/8 chiplets per package.
So right now AMD can do 4x6 = 24 or 4x4=16 or for EPYC 7282 2x8=16, there is no way to make any core count in between.
It really doesn't make sense to make a 16-cores Threadripper, as AMD stated almost nobody brought the 8-core 1900X either.
So right now their only choice is to start at 24-core and there is no reason to charge less for it.
What you end up with is a huge void between $750 and $1400 CPUs with Intel being the only option in between.
Since there is a “mainstream” desktop part of 16cores why would they make 16core HEDT part? For the I/O alone? Doesn’t make sense.
A GPU takes 16 lanes, the first M.2 takes another 4, then there is 4 lanes to the chipset that is split amount all the M.2 and SATA etc.
With 3 nvme SSD like I do, I will be completely out of lanes, meanning I cannot add a 10G lan card, capture card etc.
The Intel X299 CPUs do now all offer 48-lanes off the CPU, even though they are still PCI-E 3.
It isn't easy to convert the PCI-E 4.0 bandwidth to more lanes of PCI-E, you need some kind of PLX switch chip.
Those alone cost like $100 now.
The 2970WX right now is still $1275 on newegg, so it make absolute no sense to buy new.
www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2970wx/p/N82E16819113546?Description=2970X&cm_re=2970X-_-19-113-546-_-Product
As for the 2950X, it performs almost the same as my overclocked 1950X.
As for price, I am looking at $1400 3960X + $460 ish Asrock Creator, with the price hikes that puts the cost close to $2000.
A 10980XE and a "cheap" X299 board combined costs less than a $1400 3960X.
But hey, a 64-core HEDT monster processor (not even server grade like the EPYC) is obliterating two of the Xeon 8280s in benchmarks that's worth about $20k.
sub $4k chip is doing all those wonders in that market segment & Intel has nothing new on the table, yet.