Thursday, January 23rd 2020

Matrox to Develop Embedded Graphics Cards with NVIDIA

Matrox today announced a collaboration with NVIDIA for the development of a new range of multi-display embedded graphics cards purpose-built for high-density video walls. Leveraging NVIDIA's industry-renowned GPU technology, Matrox will design graphics innovations powered by a custom-built Quadro embedded GPU to accelerate graphics-intensive video wall applications in commercial and 24/7 critical environments.

"Matrox is thrilled to work alongside NVIDIA, the leader in GPU computing, to bring to market a new standard of high-density video walls," said David Chiappini, executive vice president of research and development at Matrox. "This collaboration is yet another example of our commitment to expanding our video wall portfolio while customers continue to benefit from our graphics expertise, world-class engineering, dedicated technical support, and long product life cycles."
"Matrox is a leader in creating graphics-rich video walls that make an instant real-world impact with customers," said Scott Fitzpatrick, vice president of Quadro Product Marketing at NVIDIA. "The exceptional video playback performance, reliability, and longevity of the NVIDIA architecture makes it an ideal platform for the GPUs Matrox is developing for next-generation video walls.

The new series of single-slot graphics cards based on the NVIDIA Quadro embedded GPUs will power up to four synchronized 4K displays per card, while OEMs, system integrators, and AV installers can combine multiple cards to drive up to 16 displays from one system. HDCP is also supported for the playback of protected content across the video wall. In addition, the robust and field-proven Matrox PowerDesk desktop management software provides users with a comprehensive set of advanced tools to easily configure and customize multi-display setups.
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23 Comments on Matrox to Develop Embedded Graphics Cards with NVIDIA

#1
Prima.Vera
Funny, considering the trouble you have on setting up even an 8K display using multiple nVidia cards...
Ex: :laugh:
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#2
notb
Prima.Vera
Funny, considering the trouble you have on setting up even an 8K display using multiple nVidia cards...
Ex: :laugh:

The fact that a youtuber can't do it, doesn't make it difficult.
Look around. Multi-screen displays are everywhere. They work.
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#3
Prima.Vera
notb
The fact that a youtuber can't do it, doesn't make it difficult.
Look around. Multi-screen displays are everywhere. They work.
Yeah, but they are not using nvidia cards ONLY to do the output, now do they? Usually there are proprietary devices that take care of that, not the video card itself ;)
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#4
notb
Prima.Vera
Yeah, but they are not using nvidia cards ONLY to do the output, now do they? Usually there are proprietary devices that take care of that, not the video card itself ;)
No one said the GPUs will have to this on their own. GPUs can't do anything. They need software.
Matrox is going to create such a proprietary solution. It's in the text.
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#5
theoneandonlymrk
Still , it's interesting, have they ditched Amd GPUs then or are they using both vendors Ip now?
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#6
Vayra86
Prima.Vera
Yeah, but they are not using nvidia cards ONLY to do the output, now do they? Usually there are proprietary devices that take care of that, not the video card itself ;)
Thanks for trying to pull an anti Nvidia comment in here, but you failed miserably. Bye
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#7
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
theoneandonlymrk
Still , it's interesting, have they ditched Amd GPUs then or are they using both vendors Ip now?
AMD markets the Radeon Pro SSG as 8k@60Hz capable. Maybe they already have the IP to make this work?
Vayra86
Thanks for trying to pull an anti Nvidia comment in here, but you failed miserably. Bye
You do realize that there are a lot of chips on a graphics card beyond the GPU itself, right?
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#8
theoneandonlymrk
Aquinus
AMD markets the Radeon Pro SSG as 8k@60Hz capable. Maybe they already have the IP to make this work?

You do realize that there are a lot of chips on a graphics card beyond the GPU itself, right?
Perhaps you miss understood.

Matrox did use AMD GPUs in their embedded systems , now Nvidia? Or both.
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#9
notb
Aquinus
AMD markets the Radeon Pro SSG as 8k@60Hz capable. Maybe they already have the IP to make this work?
Radeon Pro SSG is (was?) a slightly weird workstation card for $5000.
It can push 8K on a single output - like many other workstation GPUs in this price range.

This solution is about pushing 4x4K, which isn't a big issue performance-wise. Intel IGP and Nvidia basic mobile chips can do three (it's a basic requirement for laptops).

MX250 has enough power to push 4x4K. It's just that it isn't configured to do it. This may be the "customization" that Matrox is going order.
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#10
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
notb
This solution is about pushing 4x4K, which isn't a big issue performance-wise. Intel IGP and Nvidia basic mobile chips can do three (it's a basic requirement for laptops).
The Radeon Pro SSG can push 6x4K according to AMD's specs.
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notb
Aquinus
The Radeon Pro SSG can push 6x4K according to AMD's specs.
Correct.

So for 12x4K you can go with:
two Radeon Pro SSG - $5000 each
or
three Quadro P1000 - $300 each

Anyway, Matrox is going for a custom chip, so comparison above doesn't matter.

Remember: this is for running multi-panel screens, not multi-monitor gaming.
It has to be a small, cheap, easily replacable solution.
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#12
$ReaPeR$
notb
The fact that a youtuber can't do it, doesn't make it difficult.
Look around. Multi-screen displays are everywhere. They work.
notb
No one said the GPUs will have to this on their own. GPUs can't do anything. They need software.
Matrox is going to create such a proprietary solution. It's in the text.
yeah... "a" youtuber.. as we all know linus is just another youtuber.. and with all the resources that he has he still had problems implementing it. and the problem was the software.. ;)
Vayra86
Thanks for trying to pull an anti Nvidia comment in here, but you failed miserably. Bye
"anti nvidia" :roll: :roll: :roll: because if someone dares to make even a fucking joke some people have to be outraged..
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#13
notb
$ReaPeR$
yeah... "a" youtuber.. as we all know linus is just another youtuber.. and with all the resources that he has he still had problems implementing it. and the problem was the software.. ;)
I know who Linus is.

I understand people like that impress you. But you must understand that while they may be very tech-savvy, they don't have the know-how / experience / processes an enterprise IT team normally has.

The fact that Linus had trouble setting up a multi-panel screen doesn't mean it is difficult.
The very basic observation: multi-panel screens exist. They are everywhere. They've been here for just as long as high-resolution colour LCD screens have.

If you (your company) doesn't know how to do it, you call another company that knows. They send you a young IT technician who has no idea how GPUs or LCDs work, but he'll get it done in 5 minutes.
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#14
jabbadap
What this makes me wonder is that maybe nvidia has stopped making NVS cards and offered that IP to Matrox. Last nvs quadro was dual gpu NVS 810, which was Maxwell based and could drive 8x4k@30Hz displays.
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notb
jabbadap
What this makes me wonder is that maybe nvidia has stopped making NVS cards and offered that IP to Matrox. Last nvs quadro was dual gpu NVS 810, which was Maxwell based and could drive 8x4k@30Hz displays.
There's really no reason to think Matrox will make Nvidia-based cards. They may at some point, but it certainly isn't indicated in this news piece.
Video walls, commercial 24/7 applications. It also mentions "embedded GPUs".

They also make solutions with "modules", but these are not normal (general use) graphics cards:
matrox.com/graphics/en/products/video-wall/mura_mpx_series/
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#16
jabbadap
notb
There's really no reason to think Matrox will make Nvidia-based cards. They may at some point, but it certainly isn't indicated in this news piece.
Video walls, commercial 24/7 applications. It also mentions "embedded GPUs".

They also make solutions with "modules", but these are not normal (general use) graphics cards:
matrox.com/graphics/en/products/video-wall/mura_mpx_series/
Well yeah... But last paragraph has a mention of "The new series of single-slot graphics cards based on the NVIDIA Quadro embedded GPUs". This news is directly from Matrox, so I would not think they would mention that, if just using quadro nvs pcie cards.
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#17
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
notb
So for 12x4K you can go with:
two Radeon Pro SSG - $5000 each
or
three Quadro P1000 - $300 each
My point with the SSG is that AMD is more than capable of doing more than 4x4k. The Radeon Pro WX 5100 is right around $350, as a single slot card that can drive 4x4k displays. What I'm trying to say is that what Matrox and nVidia are looking at doing is easily something that AMD is already doing with room to support more in the future.
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#18
notb
Aquinus
My point with the SSG is that AMD is more than capable of doing more than 4x4k.
And my point is that you're talking about a GPU segment with worst value for the scenario we're talking about. :)
The Radeon Pro WX 5100 is right around $350, as a single slot card that can drive 4x4k displays.
Of course. Both AMD and Nvidia offer cheap workstation GPUs that support 4x4K.
What I'm trying to say is that what Matrox and nVidia are looking at doing is easily something that AMD is already doing with room to support more in the future.
Absolutely not.
The goal is to group the particular screens in different ways. It can be a single "16K" (4x4 4K), 4x8K, 16x4K and so on.
Even if you put four workstation cards in a PC, it won't be able to do this.
Matrox provides the abstraction layer that's necessary here.

Now, I don't know why they've chosen Nvidia as a partner, since making this kind of custom chips used to be AMD's specialty.
Maybe they're just cheaper and more flexible than AMD (7nm) at this point. This is a low volume product after all.
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#20
notb
Red_Machine
Anyone remember the Parhelia?
Matrox exists. It's a privately owned company now. It just makes products that aren't interesting for this gaming website (oops: "tech enthusiast website").
We're discussing this because TPU occasionally posts very random news - just because some brand exists in the text.
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#21
Prima.Vera
notb
The very basic observation: multi-panel screens exist. They are everywhere. They've been here for just as long as high-resolution colour LCD screens have.
As I said, those are using a different setup, not the videocard itself.
For example, you have a 16 ports USB3.2 hub and you connect on each port a monitor via a DVI or an HDMI adaptor. Then you have a 16 monitor setup. Yeah, those setups are from '90s, when analog was at power.
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#22
notb
Prima.Vera
As I said, those are using a different setup, not the videocard itself.
And I don't understand why you think this news is about a system not using a "hub".

Also, since it seems there won't be any splitting, this could be a purely software-based solution made specifically for Nvidia GPUs (custom or not). Matrox already does that:
www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/multi_display_software/powerdesk/
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#23
bug
Red_Machine


Anyone remember the Parhelia?
Hardly, but Mystique was head and shoulders above everyone else. I so drooled over those cards (couldn't afford one at the time).
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