Monday, May 25th 2020

Acer Readies XZ270X and XZ320QX VA Monitors with 240 Hz Refreshing

Acer is slowly rolling out its new monitors at some Chinese retailers and today we get to see their specifications. The two monitors in question are named XZ270X and XZ320QX respectively. The XZ270X is a 27-inch curved model with 1500R curvature applied, while its bigger brother XZ320QX has a 32-inch panel with 1800R curvature. Both models rock a 1920x1080p VA-type panel with a refresh rate of 240 Hz. The VA panels in question are a new breed from CSOT and they feature 4000:1 contrast ratio.

The panels are advertised with 1 ms response time and 250 nits brightness. Both monitors offer 178-degree viewing angles and the ability to represent 16.7 million colors with sRGB (72% NTSC) color gamut. For I/O, Acer has equipped these monitors with one DisplayPort, one 3.5 mm audio jack, and two HDMI connectors. There are two 2 W stereo speakers as well. The Chinese retailer lists the 27-inch model for roughly $310 and the 32-inch model for around $420.
Source: TFT Central
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13 Comments on Acer Readies XZ270X and XZ320QX VA Monitors with 240 Hz Refreshing

#1
Cobain
Dont want to BE negative, but 240hz on VA is not a great idea.. TN can barely keep up with the required 4ms pixel response, imagine VA. Well the input lag Will be lower but still.. on these panels 1440p 165hz is the acceptable rate.
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#2
las
VA = smearing, high refresh rate is not completely pointless but you will never get the same experience like TN/IPS in terms of smoothness.

VA panels are great for TV's, if viewing angles are not important (unless you pick the "right" models that is). But for high fps / fast paced PC gaming, nah. Not good. Never will be.

VA can be upto 50ms in B2W/W2B transitionings. Slightly more when panel is cold. Less when warm but never comes close to TN/IPS.
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#3
ObiFrost
Okay, these are indeed big face palm right after TPU posted Viewsonic offerings...
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#4
Pumper
1080p on a 32", what year is it, 2008?
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#5
TheLostSwede
las
VA = smearing, high refresh rate is not completely pointless but you will never get the same experience like TN/IPS in terms of smoothness.

VA panels are great for TV's, if viewing angles are not important (unless you pick the "right" models that is). But for high fps / fast paced PC gaming, nah. Not good. Never will be.

VA can be upto 50ms in B2W/W2B transitionings. Slightly more when panel is cold. Less when warm but never comes close to TN/IPS.
I see people posting this crap all over the place, but I can't say I have seen this so called smearing a single time in the two plus months since I got an Acer VA based 144Hz 1440p screen to use while stuck at home away from home.
I have in fact, had zero issues with it. Then again, I have to admit that the high refresh rate doesn't seem to do squat either, but it's not as if I've done a side by side comparison to my regular 4k 60Hz IPS panel.
So until someone can show some actual proof, I call BS on the whole smearing thing, or you got a really crappy panel or something.

Also, trying to watch the videos on YouTube trying to show the issue, just makes me feel motion sick as people can apparently not set up a a tripod or similar, so it seems to as much shaky camera effect as anything else. Now I want to throw up...
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#6
Axaion
TheLostSwede
I see people posting this crap all over the place, but I can't say I have seen this so called smearing a single time in the two plus months since I got an Acer VA based 144Hz 1440p screen to use while stuck at home away from home.
I have in fact, had zero issues with it. Then again, I have to admit that the high refresh rate doesn't seem to do squat either, but it's not as if I've done a side by side comparison to my regular 4k 60Hz IPS panel.
So until someone can show some actual proof, I call BS on the whole smearing thing, or you got a really crappy panel or something.

Also, trying to watch the videos on YouTube trying to show the issue, just makes me feel motion sick as people can apparently not set up a a tripod or similar, so it seems to as much shaky camera effect as anything else. Now I want to throw up...
Read this entire review, VA in general has problem with darker shades.

www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/samsung_c27rg50.htm

Its one of the worse ones, but if the images there still makes you call bs, then i dont know what to tell you lol
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TheLostSwede
Axaion
Read this entire review, VA in general has problem with darker shades.

www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/samsung_c27rg50.htm

Its one of the worse ones, but if the images there still makes you call bs, then i dont know what to tell you lol
But still images aren't really showing the issue and do be honest, I don't even get the blur busters flying saucer thing, since as long as it runs at the refresh rate of the screen, it doesn't appear blurry to me, no matter what, yet in all of TFT Central's reviews, it's apparently blurry.
No disrespect to TFT Central, but I can't see the issues a lot of people talk about. Yes, IPS glow can be seen sometimes and obviously backlight bleed is very obvious, but the rest of the stuff...
Then again, maybe my eyesight is ruined, having grown up with CRT TVs and screens.

Right, ok, this test sort of does it www.testufo.com/ghosting
However, I can't say I have ever noticed that in any game.
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Axaion
TheLostSwede
But still images aren't really showing the issue and do be honest, I don't even get the blur busters flying saucer thing, since as long as it runs at the refresh rate of the screen, it doesn't appear blurry to me, no matter what, yet in all of TFT Central's reviews, it's apparently blurry.
No disrespect to TFT Central, but I can't see the issues a lot of people talk about. Yes, IPS glow can be seen sometimes and obviously backlight bleed is very obvious, but the rest of the stuff...
Then again, maybe my eyesight is ruined, having grown up with CRT TVs and screens.

Right, ok, this test sort of does it www.testufo.com/ghosting
However, I can't say I have ever noticed that in any game.
The pictures simulate how we see it with our eyes, blurbusters has an entire article on how it works.
As i said, i dont know what else to tell you.
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#9
Vayra86
TheLostSwede
I see people posting this crap all over the place, but I can't say I have seen this so called smearing a single time in the two plus months since I got an Acer VA based 144Hz 1440p screen to use while stuck at home away from home.
I have in fact, had zero issues with it. Then again, I have to admit that the high refresh rate doesn't seem to do squat either, but it's not as if I've done a side by side comparison to my regular 4k 60Hz IPS panel.
So until someone can show some actual proof, I call BS on the whole smearing thing, or you got a really crappy panel or something.

Also, trying to watch the videos on YouTube trying to show the issue, just makes me feel motion sick as people can apparently not set up a a tripod or similar, so it seems to as much shaky camera effect as anything else. Now I want to throw up...
Can confirm smearing is a thing with VA on this EIZO FG2421. But... the effect is gone - completely - when warmed up and using BFI.

The G2G across the board is then similar to IPS and TN. Not as fast as the fastest ones. And not fast enough to keep up with 240hz. In that sense, this panel is a pretty big pile of BS, definitely not tweaked for optimal user experience but for optimal spec sheet stats.
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#10
mtcn77
Axaion
Read this entire review, VA in general has problem with darker shades.
I have read the review and I suppose the presentation is mixed up. It is not having issues with dark shades(255>50, 12ms), it has with light shades(0>50, 39ms). As stated on tom's review of 35z, the correct naming of the issue is clouding.
las
VA = smearing, high refresh rate is not completely pointless but you will never get the same experience like TN/IPS in terms of smoothness.

VA panels are great for TV's, if viewing angles are not important (unless you pick the "right" models that is). But for high fps / fast paced PC gaming, nah. Not good. Never will be.

VA can be upto 50ms in B2W/W2B transitionings. Slightly more when panel is cold. Less when warm but never comes close to TN/IPS.
Please please please, give them one more chance. They, literally, 'wipe the floor' with TN's soft spot which is RTC errors. You suddenly have quite so many VA's and not enough TN's past the reverse ghosting issue.
The LCD is mainly persistence technology, anyway. It should hold the image without breaks introduced in the motion picture. VA happens to be slow, albeit not breaking its one rule of execution, so it is still commend-worthy.
www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/samsung_c27rg50.htm#gaming_comparisons
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#11
Kanan
las
VA = smearing, high refresh rate is not completely pointless but you will never get the same experience like TN/IPS in terms of smoothness.

VA panels are great for TV's, if viewing angles are not important (unless you pick the "right" models that is). But for high fps / fast paced PC gaming, nah. Not good. Never will be.

VA can be upto 50ms in B2W/W2B transitionings. Slightly more when panel is cold. Less when warm but never comes close to TN/IPS.
I have a SVA panel in my model, and it has a feature similar to ULMB, which makes the monitor very fast, even for the fastest shooters. The colors are crisp as f and it has HDR 600 as a bonus. So maybe you're right with older panels, or the average ones, but not all of them. Samsung actually made the effort to make this viable.
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Axaion
mtcn77
I have read the review and I suppose the presentation is mixed up. It is not having issues with dark shades(255>50, 12ms), it has with light shades(0>50, 39ms). As stated on tom's review of 35z, the correct naming of the issue is clouding.


Please please please, give them one more chance. They, literally, 'wipe the floor' with TN's soft spot which is RTC errors. You suddenly have quite so many VA's and not enough TN's past the reverse ghosting issue.
The LCD is mainly persistence technology, anyway. It should hold the image without breaks introduced in the motion picture. VA happens to be slow, albeit not breaking its one rule of execution, so it is still commend-worthy.
www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/samsung_c27rg50.htm#gaming_comparisons
Late reply, but the lower the number on starting point and end point on that graph, the closer to a black transition it is, you read it reversed
And yes, curved VA's have a problem with clouding, looking like a batman symbol at times
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#13
BArms
Isn't the "1ms" response time supposed to help with smearing? Or is that completely unrelated?

Anyway I have a Samsung C32HG70 which is advertised as 4ms and the blurring is very minimal even without BFI. It's there, my old Asus 144hz TN panel monitor feels smoother/faster but not by much, but I kind of prefer contrast of a VA for most games. The problem with BFI on the Samsung HG70's is that enabling it dramatically reduces brightness, so I leave it off.
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