Friday, June 12th 2020

Samsung 980 Pro PCIe 4.0 SSD Rumored to Launch Within Two Months

The Samsung 980 Pro SSD was first revealed at CES 2020, making it Samsungs first consumer PCIe 4.0 SSD. Hardware leaker Ice Universe is claiming that Samsung will release the SSD within the next two months, which puts the latest date for a release in late August if the leak is to be believed. The Samsung 980 Pro should destroy the competition if Samsung's claims are true with advertised maximum sequential reads of 6.5GB/s, and sequential writes of 5GB/s. This is a large jump over Samsung's 970 Pro PCIe 3.0 SSD with advertised speeds of 3.5GB/s and 2.7GB/s, these numbers also offer a significant bump over its fellow PCIe 4.0 competitors such as the Corsair MP600 with advertised speeds 5GB/s and 4.3GB/s.
Source: @UniverseIce
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53 Comments on Samsung 980 Pro PCIe 4.0 SSD Rumored to Launch Within Two Months

#1
The Witcher
Will this new speed translate to real-world performance?

Serious question to experts, in which areas should we expect improvements?
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#2
Camm
The Witcher
Will this new speed translate to real-world performance?

Serious question to experts, in which areas should we expect improvements?
Unless you're running databases, running multiple VM's, or really need to be the first person to load into lobby in BFV, no.

Next console generation with its focus on fast storage might change this on PC, but more realistically, I expect to see RAM requirements grow instead as a direct compensation for storage speed.
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#3
low
Wait? The seq Transferrate is a sign for performance? This is madness.
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#4
cucker tarlson
low
Wait? The seq Transferrate is a sign for performance? This is madness.
it is one of them.
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#6
cucker tarlson
StarExplorer
While in 2021 expected PCIe 6.0 to come...
no.you read it wrong.
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#8
utmode
Is it TLC or MLC?
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#9
Caring1
Samsung lying to consumers about peak read and write speeds based on their special sauce magician software?
What speed does it average without cheating?
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#11
ShurikN
StarExplorer
I'm reading, but I'm talking about PCIe in general.
PCIe 4.0 was officially introduced in 2017, yet it only reached the general public in 2019 with Zen2. Why do you think you'll be getting 6.0 devices and chips on the same year it is announced?
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#12
bogami
I hope Samsung will also lower the price per gigabyte as this has always been announced. And what will it be? PCIs 6 are expected next year, and 7.2 Gb / s controllers have also been announced this year. Fat gains are being made in this area but I was more attracted to the 8Tb Sabernet Rocet Q model than the twice as expensive faster model with lower capacity . :)
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#13
LemmingOverlord
The Witcher
Will this new speed translate to real-world performance?

Serious question to experts, in which areas should we expect improvements?
I'd venture saying PCIe 4.0 isn't worth the premium right now, in particular for desktop. I haven't seen datacentre PCIe 4.0 performance, though, but I'm guessing that's not what you're interested in. There's ample testing showing PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSDs taking on the PCIe 4.0 ones and winning.

Now... This being Samsung, I'd go out on a limb and say the 980 will be the top dog in the PCIe 4.0 SSD space. There might be better real-world performance but tbh these things are so fast already you'd need to apply this to some huge task just to measure the difference.

Ironic that storage dragged its butt for so long and now it's probably the most unbottleneck-y piece of hardware available.
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#14
bonehead123
LemmingOverlord
Ironic that storage dragged its butt for so long and now it's probably the most unbottleneck-y piece of hardware available.
True dat, But..
But.....
But.......

Will this allow us to run Crysis at 623,241.738 FPS ?

Now if the rest of the pc parts & subsystems would just catch up, we could have machines that complete a task before we even get our fingers off the keys/mouse buttons, hahahaha :roll:..:eek:..:laugh:
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#15
cucker tarlson
I don't really care about speeds,would rather have a 4tb sata qlc rather than pay through my nose for a 4.0 nvme and use a spinner for storage.
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#16
R0H1T
bonehead123
Will this allow us to run Crysis at 623,241.738 FPS ?
What resolution are we talking about :confused:
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#17
Assimilator
Considering the general Samsung price premium, with MLC on top, this is going to cost several arms and legs.
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#18
cucker tarlson
Assimilator
Considering the general Samsung price premium, with MLC on top, this is going to cost several arms and legs.
at least with sata version you get to show them off
I really need fancier cables for those
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#19
kayjay010101
LemmingOverlord
I'd venture saying PCIe 4.0 isn't worth the premium right now, in particular for desktop. I haven't seen datacentre PCIe 4.0 performance, though, but I'm guessing that's not what you're interested in. There's ample testing showing PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSDs taking on the PCIe 4.0 ones and winning.

Now... This being Samsung, I'd go out on a limb and say the 980 will be the top dog in the PCIe 4.0 SSD space. There might be better real-world performance but tbh these things are so fast already you'd need to apply this to some huge task just to measure the difference.

Ironic that storage dragged its butt for so long and now it's probably the most unbottleneck-y piece of hardware available.
Doubtful, as there's a new controller that is coming out this year capable of 7GB/s. I expect Samsung will release a new drive later that will use that controller that will be even faster than this.
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#20
P4-630
cucker tarlson
at least with sata version you get to show them off
I really need fancier cables for those

My sammy's:

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#21
cucker tarlson
P4-630
My sammy's:


got 2 256gb 850 pros,one 512gb and a 500gb 860 evo.
got three other ssd's too,was courious how they perform against sammys
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#22
Upgrayedd
Honest question, does anyone make a SLC drive anymore?
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#23
cucker tarlson
Upgrayedd
Honest question, does anyone make a SLC drive anymore?
no one even does mlc.
and I get it.
my 860 evo is faster than my 850 pro in every possible way.
even when writing the last couple free gigabytes with small files their newer tlc wins with their mlc.and micron's 3d mlc performs like shieeeeeeeet for comparison,even on a dram cached drive at 50% full.
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#24
BorisDG
Camm
Unless you're running databases, running multiple VM's, or really need to be the first person to load into lobby in BFV, no.

Next console generation with its focus on fast storage might change this on PC, but more realistically, I expect to see RAM requirements grow instead as a direct compensation for storage speed.
As third-party dev already said, the SSD thing will be mostly for PS5 exclusive games, since it makes no sense to make few versions of a game. Xbox Series X is like current gen SSD performance also.
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#25
Camm
BorisDG
As third-party dev already said, the SSD thing will be mostly for PS5 exclusive games, since it makes no sense to make few versions of a game. Xbox Series X is like current gen SSD performance also.
Many devs will take that approach (especially considering the lack of fixed target on PC), but whilst the PS5's SSD is really quick, the secret sauce is really being able to directly call data from storage into the GPU with storage speed thats relatively quick. I think we'll see titles doing it across platforms and not just Sony exclusives for that reason, but with PC unable to do that, I think we'll just see RAM requirements increase so more can get buffered into RAM.
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