Friday, July 31st 2020

AMD Radeon MI100 "Arcturus" Alleged Specification Listed, the GPU Could be Coming in December

AMD has been preparing to launch its MI100 accelerator and fight NVIDIA's A100 Ampere GPU in machine learning and AI horizon, and generally compute-intensive workloads. According to some news sources over at AdoredTV, the GPU alleged specifications were listed, along with some slides about the GPU which should be presented at the launch. So to start, this is what we have on the new Radeon MI100 "Arcturus" GPU based on CDNA architecture. The alleged specifications mention that the GPU will feature 120 Compute Units (CUs), meaning that if the GPU keeps the 64-core per CU configuration, we are looking at 7680 cores powered by CDNA architecture.

The leaked slide mentions that the GPU can put out as much as 42 TeraFLOPs of FP32, single-precision compute. This makes it more than twice as fast compared to NVIDIA's A100 GPU at FP32 workloads. To achieve that, the card would need to have all of its 7680 cores running at 2.75 GHz, which would be a bit high number. On the same slide, the GPU is claimed to have 9.5 TeraFLOPs of FP64 dual-precision performance, while the FP16 power is going to be around 150 TeraFLOPs. For comparison, the A100 GPU from NVIDIA features 9.7 TeraFLOPS of FP64, 19.5 TeraFLOPS of FP32, and 312 (or 634 with sparsity enabled) TeraFLOPs of FP16 compute. AMD GPU is allegedly only more powerful for FP32 workloads, where it outperforms the NVIDIA card by 2.4 times. And if that is really the case, AMD has found its niche in the HPC sector, and it plans to dominate there. According to AdoredTV sources, the GPU could be coming in December of this year.
Source: AdoredTV via VideoCardz
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34 Comments on AMD Radeon MI100 "Arcturus" Alleged Specification Listed, the GPU Could be Coming in December

#1
Chomiq

Why only the AMD section looks like it was copy pasted from source that had white background?
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#2
kayjay010101
Chomiq

Why only the AMD section looks like it was copy pasted from source that had white background?
LOL that's text that's been copied in MS Paint and then bucket filled the background around it, but obviously they've missed the original background in the O in Oil, between the C and A in "Academia", and in the P and g of "HPC & ML training". Either it's really amature presentation work- or it's fake. And a really bad fake.
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#4
dicktracy
According to AMD‘s Head Priest.
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#5
zmeul
Since when adoredtv is a news source??!
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#6
Vayra86
zmeul
Since when adoredtv is a news source??!
He guessed right a few times, that is enough these days. In some strange reality its apparently not important you missed over half your predictions along with it, I guess that's the internet for ya.

Or maybe they just misinterpreted his funny accent. I can't listen to it for any longer than 5 minutes, and since the man usually has 45+ minute monologues...

To be fair I think even Wccftech has a higher hit rate than him.
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#7
Vya Domus
zmeul
Since when adoredtv is a news source??!
Since he got right a lot things, well, he is a source of news as much everyone else is who talks about leaks. People should get over their vendetta against people that they dislike just because they delve more into a particular brand.
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#8
Assimilator
More reliable news sources than AdoredTV include, but are not limited to:
  • my anus
Vya Domus
Since he got right a lot things, well, he is a source of news as much everyone else is who talks about leaks. People should get over their vendetta against people that they dislike just because they delve more into a particular brand.
We don't dislike him because he's an AMD fanboy.
We dislike him because he's about as trustworthy as the current US president.

Repeating rumours or straight-up making them up is not news, it's FUD. And broken clocks are right twice a day.
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#9
YOUDIEMOFO
Assimilator
More reliable news sources than AdoredTV include, but are not limited to:
  • my anus
We don't dislike him because he's an AMD fanboy.
We dislike him because he's about as trustworthy as the current US president.

Repeating rumours or straight-up making them up is not news, it's FUD. And broken clocks are right once a day.
That's a broken clock is right twice a day.... Usually in my world there's a couple of times a day in the a.m. and p.m. there's a similar time as the opposite.
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#10
Viilutaja
Everybody here talking shit about AdoredTV and calling him AMD fanboy, are you even watching him regularly? One here said he can't stand the accent ...that's fair. But to dismiss him like that and even when you don't watch his videos or read the articles in his website.

You do know that he has called out AMD and their shitty Radeon products constantly and praises Nvidia products? Only Intel with his lacluster CPUs and very questionable tactics against smaller companies have been frowned upon by Adored, as it should be. And everybody in right mind should call out Intel about their tactics past 10year, that has led them to this 2 failed node releases (10nm and 7nm).
So get your facts straight and do your homework, before you start to call somebody a fanboy.
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#11
Xex360
zmeul
Since when adoredtv is a news source??!
Given the quality of today's tech news/reviews he's way from being the worst, and it's a mixture of leaks and speculations to be taken with grain of salt unlike those useless so call reviewers that mislead you, and call their content journalism while it's mere entertainment.
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#12
medi01


AdoredTV guy was good at analysis, blew it royally with NAVI leaks, which he was basing on some unknown dude sending him emails.
So, on one hand, nothing wrong with him, on the other, where do these leaks come from, another unknown dude sending him emails?
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#13
Viilutaja
medi01


AdoredTV guy was good at analysis, blew it royally with NAVI leaks, which he was basing on some unknown dude sending him emails.
So, on one hand, nothing wrong with him, on the other, where do these leaks come from, another unknown dude sending him emails?
What Navi leaks exactly? You mean at 2018 when there was supposed to come out Navi architecture, but instead we got Radeon VII? If that is the case, it was later confirmed that AMD indeed had Navi in works, but was ditched because it was not as power efficient as they wanted. I would not call that being wrong as early samples were out in 2018, but it never came to realization, but delayed half a year.
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#14
medi01
Viilutaja
What Navi leaks exactly?
He stated it was a failed project, hopeless electricity hog with poor performance, engineers superfrustrated and waiting for the moment when they could move on to another project.

Greenboi might not know, chuckle, but you surely do know how hilariously far all that is from reality.
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#15
SamuelL
Vayra86
He guessed right a few times, that is enough these days. In some strange reality its apparently not important you missed over half your predictions along with it, I guess that's the internet for ya.

Or maybe they just misinterpreted his funny accent. I can't listen to it for any longer than 5 minutes, and since the man usually has 45+ minute monologues...

To be fair I think even Wccftech has a higher hit rate than him.
I'm pro-AMD and I can't watch his stuff. Wccftech levels of accuracy with long, meandering monologues, it's painful.

I don't like to pick on anyone for things they can't control, but that accent does no favors for the videos either...
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#16
Viilutaja
medi01
He stated it was a failed project, hopeless electricity hog with poor performance, engineers superfrustrated and waiting for the moment when they could move on to another project.

Greenboi might not know, chuckle, but you surely do know how hilariously far all that is from reality.
Yeah, but it was a FAILED product when you have worked so long to get it out and at the last minute you have to push the release further, to get it better. Instead working on RDNA2 or even RDNA3, you have to debug the first iteration. So that was confirmed. For all we know the "black screen of death" was the reason, that original launch was pushed back... and they tried to fix it. Or it could have been number of other problems.
This video is sheding much light to the issue and looking back at this old video, makes a lot clearer.

I am non English speaker and I actually like Scottish accent. Dunno, maybe just me, but that does not make me turn away. It's more painful to listen Chinese or Indian accent English, were it is truly hard to understand some pronunciations.
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#17
kapone32
The problem I have with these are they create a false narrative. Even if the card turns out to be 95% of what these rumours are in terms of performance, it will be a failure in the eyes of some people.
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#18
Vayra86
Viilutaja
Everybody here talking shit about AdoredTV and calling him AMD fanboy, are you even watching him regularly? One here said he can't stand the accent ...that's fair. But to dismiss him like that and even when you don't watch his videos or read the articles in his website.

You do know that he has called out AMD and their shitty Radeon products constantly and praises Nvidia products? Only Intel with his lacluster CPUs and very questionable tactics against smaller companies have been frowned upon by Adored, as it should be. And everybody in right mind should call out Intel about their tactics past 10year, that has led them to this 2 failed node releases (10nm and 7nm).
So get your facts straight and do your homework, before you start to call somebody a fanboy.
I dont care what camp he prefers its just an asshat.
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#19
Vya Domus
Vayra86
Its called a broken clock, man.
It doesn't work like that, it's not random or just luck when you get right things down to specifics.
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Xex360
Viilutaja
I am non English speaker and I actually like Scottish accent. Dunno, maybe just me, but that does not make me turn away. It's more painful to listen Chinese or Indian accent English, were it is truly hard to understand some pronunciations.
I love his accent, he speaks in proper English unlike most other famous YouTubers who struggle to write or speak proper English AKA Americans...
I think he has very good knowledge compared to most YouTubers, but where you venture into leaks and speculations it's hit and miss.
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#21
xkm1948
Unless they make way better effort in ROCm, very few would dare to pay for it.

Also, CUDA dominates the existing GPU compute market. I wonder how much use one can make out of these.
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#22
AnarchoPrimitiv
Vya Domus
Since he got right a lot things, well, he is a source of news as much everyone else is who talks about leaks. People should get over their vendetta against people that they dislike just because they delve more into a particular brand.
Well said, the vast majority of "criticism" I hear against AdoredTV never mentions specifics or provides examples and mostly takes a derogatory and emotional tone with personal attacks, rather than critique driven by evidence. I have no opinion either way, but I do require at least some evidence and/or source citation to take anyone's argument seriously.

Also, aren't leaks always supposed to be taken skeptically? And aren't all leaks, regardless of source, hit or miss? I just don't understand why they're holding AdoredTV personally accountable when he's just relaying some information, seems very personal.
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#23
Fouquin
Vayra86
He guessed right a few times, that is enough these days. In some strange reality its apparently not important you missed over half your predictions along with it, I guess that's the internet for ya.
Zen 2 5.1GHz EZ bois just you wait
Vega will crush 1080 Ti it's so powerful just wait
Navi 10 $249 and 150W against 2080! novideo is dead bois

Yeah see I'm firmly of the belief that if you can't cite your source you're full of shit, and if you can site your source you shouldn't be talking. People with inside info don't go blabbing it on Youtube. At this point if Adored gets anything right it's because whoever his "sources" are accidentally predicted something while they were coming up with more fake slides to dangle on a string in front of his face.
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#24
Vya Domus
Fouquin
Vega will crush 1080 Ti it's so powerful just wait
He rather famously did a video disproving just that, made a lot of trolls and fanboys angry.
Fouquin
People with inside info don't go blabbing it on Youtube.
Where else would you go to blab about something ?
Fouquin
At this point if Adored gets anything right it's because whoever his "sources" are accidentally predicted something while they were coming up with more fake slides
Again, you can't predict specifics by accident, you have to accept the fact that no one becomes this famous for getting everything wrong. I know a lot about CPUs and GPUs, certainly more than AdoredTV but other than generic strategies I could never predict products in detail as hard as I may try.
Fouquin
Yeah see I'm firmly of the belief that if you can't cite your source you're full of shit
Most of these leaks come from people working for OEMs, if you say who is telling you all of this stuff there is a very good chance they'll get fired or become unable to provide any more information. If you have a guy giving you inside information and you tell everyone who he is so that people will believe you, you are blithering idiot.
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#25
Viilutaja
Fouquin
Zen 2 5.1GHz EZ bois just you wait
Vega will crush 1080 Ti it's so powerful just wait
Navi 10 $249 and 150W against 2080! novideo is dead bois

Yeah see I'm firmly of the belief that if you can't cite your source you're full of shit, and if you can site your source you shouldn't be talking. People with inside info don't go blabbing it on Youtube. At this point if Adored gets anything right it's because whoever his "sources" are accidentally predicted something while they were coming up with more fake slides to dangle on a string in front of his face.
He has a speculative channel. If You go into it believing it to be gods word and 100%, then there is something wrong with you. There are at least 10 website who post same speculative stuff all the time and nobody is nailing them to the cross, but for some unknown reason people love to hate AdoredTV. When he leaks something, it may well be some info that was current or relevant maybe 6-3 months ago, leakers themselves usually don't know how current or relevant that info is now. Usually leakers don't have the todays info or even yesterdays news, when it comes to hardware leaks.
When I watch Jim's vidoes, I just think along, what if ... i don't trust that info and set myself up for a big letdown.
Hell, when I even read newspapers today, from reputable outlets, I don't 100% believe those, because nobody is right 100% and is trusted.
And now you go in believing some YT channel (and I dont mean only AdoredTV here) and expect the info you get from person who analyses the data, that has been leaked or given from unknown source half of the time. That is messed up! You just set yourself up...
Even if he got something wrong, it does not mean that info was wrong also. It may have been 6 months old info, where he made his analysis.
You only can predict 100% right all the time, when the product is actually out! Everything else is always up in the air and can change.
Unless You are Lisa Su's or Jensen Huang's family and have inside info from the source :p
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