Wednesday, August 5th 2020

Possible NVIDIA RTX 3000 Rollout Schedule Detailed - RTX 3070 and RTX 3060 After September

September is emerging as a busy month for PC hardware announcements - if not actual product launches or availability. A report by Chinese tech publication MyDrivers suggests that the upcoming GeForce RTX 3000 series "Ampere" graphics cards could have a staggered market availability. Although the technology and product family is expected to be announced in September 17, 2020, the month could see the release of only the top-dog (read: low volume) parts, namely the flagship RTX 3080 Ti and RTX 3080 (or the SKUs that succeed the RTX 2080 Ti and RTX 2080).

The GeForce RTX 3070, or the SKU that succeeds the RTX 2070 Super, could launch a month later, in October 2020, according to the MyDrivers report. The higher-volume performance-segment part, the RTX 3060, or the SKU that succeeds the RTX 2060, could launch only by November, just in time for the Holiday shopping season. The report goes on to state that NVIDIA has discontinued production of the popular RTX 2070 Super, following its decision to stop RTX 2080 Ti and RTX 2080 Super production, allowing the retail channel to digest existing inventories of these parts.
Sources: MyDrivers, VideoCardz
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32 Comments on Possible NVIDIA RTX 3000 Rollout Schedule Detailed - RTX 3070 and RTX 3060 After September

#1
Caring1
Hmm that doesn't sound right based on their past record of releasing GPUs.
They save the best for last much to the disappointment of early adopters.
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#2
ThermoCycle
Caring1
Hmm that doesn't sound right based on their past record of releasing GPUs.
They save the best for last much to the disappointment of early adopters.
That wasn't the case for the 2080 ti if I remember correctly...
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#3
Gungar
Caring1
Hmm that doesn't sound right based on their past record of releasing GPUs.
They save the best for last much to the disappointment of early adopters.
Based on what record? the RTX 2000 series launch? its suppose to be the norm now?
ThermoCycle
That wasn't the case for the 2080 ti if I remember correctly...
If he is talking about top SKUs, i have no idea what he is talking about oO
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#4
kayjay010101
Caring1
Hmm that doesn't sound right based on their past record of releasing GPUs.
They save the best for last much to the disappointment of early adopters.
The 20xx series launched with the 2080, then the 2080 Ti the week after. It then took 3 weeks for the 2070 to come out, followed by the Titan two months later and then the 2060 almost a month after that. This was all before any of the 16xx series. So the 3rd top card, then the 2nd top card a week after. Then the 5th top card 3 weeks later, followed by the top card 2 months later, and the 6th top card a month after that. So if you wanted high end for the 20xx series, there was plenty of choice right from the start. In fact it was the low and mid end that took months to get any products for.

So they broke the supposed past record that time. They could do it again.
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#5
Hemmingstamp
Caring1
Hmm that doesn't sound right based on their past record of releasing GPUs.
They save the best for last much to the disappointment of early adopters.
And that's the reason I hold off buying newly released GPU's.
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#6
Serhend
He refers to the fact that Ti cards actually tended to be launched later than x80 and x70 cards in recent generations. Even 2080ti launched 1 week after 2080.

Here:

980ti launch: June 2nd, 2015
980 & 970 launch: Sep. 18th, 2014
960 launch: Jan. 22nd, 2015

1080ti launch: Mar. 17th, 2017
1080 launch: May 27th, 2016
1070 launch: June 16th, 2016
1060 launch: July 19th, 2016

2080ti launch: Sep. 27th, 2018
2080 launch: Sep. 20th, 2018
2070 launch: Oct. 17th, 2018
2060 launch: Jan 15th, 2019
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#7
Xex360
ThermoCycle
That wasn't the case for the 2080 ti if I remember correctly...
They usually launch the Ti later, the 2080ti was different, but given that the 2080ti was in fact more a 2080 performance wise with the price of titan, we can ignore this misstep.
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#9
kayjay010101
EarthDog
Dudes... 2080ti and 2080 were released the same day....i know... i reviewed them along with tpu and many other sites on 9/19 of that year. That is when the review embargo was up/these were both available.
www.overclockers.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-and-rtx-2080-ti-review/
www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/discover/282577/geforce-rtx-2080-ti-availability-update/
It was delayed a week. The reviewer samples still went out early of course.
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#10
EarthDog
kayjay010101
www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/discover/282577/geforce-rtx-2080-ti-availability-update/
It was delayed a week. The reviewer samples still went out early of course.
They shipped to clients a day/week later (2080/2080Ti respectively)... they were released/launched on 9/19 w/preorder available that day. I had the samples a week or so before that. Launch doesn't mean availability. Paper Launch is a real term... ;)

Anyway, this launch is the opposite of Turing where the flagship came out first along with #2.
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#11
Assimilator
Staggered release with the fastest cards first makes perfect sense from a marketing perspective: build up hype to launch, release best product to obliterate the competition, as the hype from that release dies down release the next-fastest SKU to continue the hype, etc. That's also why releasing first is so important: if you have a good product, the hype becomes self-sustaining and you ride that hype train all the way through to the holiday season.

Regardless of how much you lke or dislike NVIDA, you've got to agree that they know how to do product releases right.
EarthDog
Anyway, this launch is the opposite of Turing where the flagship came out first along with #2.
Don't you mean the same as Turing?
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#13
EarthDog
Assimilator
Don't you mean the same as Turing?
No... is the 3070 the confirmed flagship?

If so, then yes.. lol

EDIT: I'm not doing too well in the reading comprehension... lol
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#14
Bubster
one is gonna to triple mortgage a house to buy one of these ridiculously priced RTX card...
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#15
ymbaja
Bubster
one is gonna to triple mortgage a house to buy one of these ridiculously priced RTX card...
Agree. Prices are getting insane. Nvidia is going to price themselves out of the market eventually. Not sure about you, but my salary ain’t going up like Nvidia’s pricing...
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#16
Hemmingstamp
ymbaja
Agree. Prices are getting insane. Nvidia is going to price themselves out of the market eventually. Not sure about you, but my salary ain’t going up like Nvidia’s pricing...
Just buy a defibrillator days before retail prices are announced.
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#17
Steevo
Caring1
Hmm that doesn't sound right based on their past record of releasing GPUs.
They save the best for last much to the disappointment of early adopters.
Smaller chips on a new node will help them learn the dos and don't of it without wasting expensive silicon dies.
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#18
bug
Serhend
He refers to the fact that Ti cards actually tended to be launched later than x80 and x70 cards in recent generations. Even 2080ti launched 1 week after 2080.

Here:

980ti launch: June 2nd, 2015
980 & 970 launch: Sep. 18th, 2014
960 launch: Jan. 22nd, 2015

1080ti launch: Mar. 17th, 2017
1080 launch: May 27th, 2016
1070 launch: June 16th, 2016
1060 launch: July 19th, 2016

2080ti launch: Sep. 27th, 2018
2080 launch: Sep. 20th, 2018
2070 launch: Oct. 17th, 2018
2060 launch: Jan 15th, 2019
I was gonna say, when new architecture debuts during fall, the x60 doesn't comes in time for holidays...
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#19
theoneandonlymrk
Steevo
Smaller chips on a new node will help them learn the dos and don't of it without wasting expensive silicon dies.
They debute with A100 dude, they blew past that option, it's suck it and see with Samsung as foundrie, yeah really.
They're selling what gets made IMHO, regardless of everything but a major flaw, and we are not hearing about issues so it's rolling as we speak.
They don't have the time for further stepping so the design they have now ,they had when a100 taped out in all likelihood.

450 Watts is on the cards for Nvidia IMHO but which one, hopefully just the 3090.
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#20
Vayra86
One thing's a given: we get the x80 first which will not be the largest chip.

Turing is an exception to a rule, but even so... the reason to not release the biggest chip first is simply because the yield usually doesn't allow it. For Turing, that was different because the node wasn't new and neither was the GPU - V100 has been around for awhile, and the RTX Quadros also launched halfway 2018. They're all baked on the same 12nm node and are all big dies. And even so, Turing's 2080ti was plagued with early problems up to and including a bad batch, it had an astronomical price tag (again a sign of low yield given the die size) and was only sold to a miniscule percentage of the market.

So there is your explanation, I'm not seeing any big GPUs on the newest nodes yet so you can expect a mid-high end launch with x80 and GA104 or whatever its equivalent will be. I'd be pretty surprised if x80ti would launch straight away, but we know too little about the gen to begin with, to be fair. x80ti might be eclipsed by something else. Last time it was SUPER that came round the corner suddenly... this is not new to Nvidia's strategy. The way they pushed Titan, then 780ti and then made it a norm... they might do that again with something new. Turing showed us they're able and willing to go to extreme die sizes to make that happen.

Either way, its definitely into wait and see mode IMO. Buying GPUs on launch was never a good idea, I'm not planning to start now :)
theoneandonlymrk
450 Watts is on the cards for Nvidia IMHO but which one, hopefully just the 3090.
I'll happily take a bet on that one NOT happening. 300W peak is already a stretch.
ymbaja
Agree. Prices are getting insane. Nvidia is going to price themselves out of the market eventually. Not sure about you, but my salary ain’t going up like Nvidia’s pricing...
Keep in mind that the market is also changing. The resolution is a whole new selling point. A vast majority games on 1080p, but an increasing part is venturing into 1440p and even 4K, it just requires a different class of GPU. A wider spread also in the performance range of a full gen. If you put Turing next to something like Kepler, the differences in performance from bottom to top are staggering. In addition, 1080p gaming is still getting cheaper every gen. So I'd rather say everyone's winning with the way Nvidia pushes performance every time. Turing was just a rather weak gen at doing so, and part of that is a total lack of competition.
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#21
GhostRyder
Well thats good, I was waiting to replace my Titan XP. My big question is will the 3080ti be the same price or jump another couple hundred dollars...
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#22
Vader
theoneandonlymrk
450 Watts is on the cards
I see what you did there
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#23
droopyRO
theoneandonlymrk
So mostly a paper launch tut.
All i want to know is how much "paper" it will cost us to get it :)
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#24
Assimilator
droopyRO
All i want to know is how much "paper" it will cost us to get it :)
Early adopter tax is always going to hurt.

Smartest is to wait for RDNA2 to launch before buying: best case it forces NVIDIA to drop their prices, worst case you have a slightly lower performance, but lower-priced alternative to drop your hard-earned cash on. There will also be a lot of second-hand Turings and Navis popping up which might be a better option, depending on how much of a performance boost the new gen does (or doesn't) give.
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#25
bug
Assimilator
Early adopter tax is always going to hurt.

Smartest is to wait for RDNA2 to launch before buying: best case it forces NVIDIA to drop their prices, worst case you have a slightly lower performance, but lower-priced alternative to drop your hard-earned cash on. There will also be a lot of second-hand Turings and Navis popping up which might be a better option, depending on how much of a performance boost the new gen does (or doesn't) give.
We've said the same thing about RDNA: just wait for it, it must bring Turing prices back in check. Boy, were we wrong...

But yeah, wait for both launches, the advice is sound. What happened with Turing is not the norm.
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