Monday, August 17th 2020

Rumor: GeForce RTX 3090 Pricing to Arrive Around the $2,000 Mark

A user on ChipHell going by the alias Alienxzy posted a screenshot taken from an alleged insider account with information regarding plans for next-gen RTX 3090 as fabricated by NVIDIA's AIB partner Colorful. According to the original information, posted on ChipHell as a screenshot, Colorful will be releasing two high-end versions of the RTX 3090 graphics card, in the form of the Vulcan (air-cooled) and Neptune (hybrid cooling) models. According to it, and when the text is parsed through a translator, the tentative pricing for NVIDIA's next-gen is slated at CNY 13,999 (online selling) for the Vulcan X OC, and CNY 12,999 (again online selling) for the Neptune. These translate to roughly $2,000 for the high-end Vulcan X OC and (strangely, for a hybrid, water-cooled version) $1875 for the Neptune. Another pricing of CNY 12,000 is mentioned for the Vulcan ($1,730), so that might actually be the real pricing (and makes more sense compared to the Neptune).

Some more information is present on the rumor-mill-powering post, such as a 5 V RGB capability that pairs the graphics cards' lighting with that of the motherboard (and vice-versa), as well as improved in-card display for the Vulcan X; meanwhile, sales of the Neptune graphics card for the previous generation were reportedly low, which is why its pricing is reportedly being revised close to its introduction, which will be in the same ballpark of the Vulcan X OC. If true, this should set the pricing trend for NVIDIA's expected top offering in the RTX 3000 series, and it's creeping ever higher - the cost to have a generation's best performer is becoming more and more (insert descriptor here). Even considering NVIDIA's all but guaranteed Founders' Edition, we're looking at a steep pricing landscape. Do please note the rumor tag on the title of the news post, as this isn't confirmed information in any way or form. Images below for the Vulcan X and Neptune are merely representative of current generation's offerings.
Sources: ChipHell, via TPU Forums user @ xkm1948
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219 Comments on Rumor: GeForce RTX 3090 Pricing to Arrive Around the $2,000 Mark

#51
dont whant to set it"'
This just might be the time all the fanboys and strong advocates for nV be starting to fill my pockets with money and gifted newly released catds
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#52
Hemmingstamp
mouacyk
GPUs used to come with a 2x molex -> 6pin PCIe connector. If the 12pin connector materializes, it's more likely new GPUs will just ship with a similar adapter, for 3x PCIe 8pins -> 12pin PCIe connector. New PSU on top of the already insane GPU prices? That can't go well.
See what theoneandonlymrk stated. If a new PSU is needed I can't see it going down well.
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#53
chris.london
Vya Domus
People think in a funny way, question is, will you think the same after a few generations of 20% more money ?
Yes. FYI nVidia’s been doing this for a few generations now. People still buy nVidia cards, so I guess they are ok with it.
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#54
Vya Domus
chris.london
Yes. FYI nVidia’s been doing this for a few generations now. People still buy nVidia cards, so I guess they are ok with it.
Hemmingstamp

There you go, you didn't believe me when I said that's how it works. :)
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#55
Th3pwn3r
I don't see these selling for $2000. I could see them price at $1500 for FE.
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#56
Hemmingstamp
Vya Domus
I don't know, there's always a choice when it comes down to this sort of stuff. You can just say no, people buy these to play Warzone or Fortnite or whatever else is popular these days, you can live without a 2000$ video card. If you can't say no to that, we're doomed either way.
I agree with you 110%. If you make an income from a $2000 card that's all well and good. But for gaming alone, errr, nah.
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#57
dont whant to set it"'
This just might be the time all the fanboys and strong advocates for nV be starting to fill my pockets with money and gifted newly released cards. I mean , thAt price looks to be a triple inflated royalty over the added value above for actually manufacturing it plus profit. Yeeeeeii...!
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#58
Hemmingstamp
Vya Domus
Hemmingstamp

There you go, you didn't believe me when I said that's how it works. :)
LOL, I'm fully aware of how it works :)
FYI, I don't buy into hype of any kind. I took me till now to purchase an RTX card. ;)
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#59
theoneandonlymrk
chris.london
Yes. FYI nVidia’s been doing this for a few generations now. People still buy nVidia cards, so I guess they are ok with it.
That's how you see it?

Can you imagine the number of 1080tis(actually , like the 8800 a legend card) that sold relative to the 2080Ti(meh for the money)?.

They can set whatever price they want yes but the market Will and Is reacting.

There's rumours of two other new discrete GPU maker's now and Intel are on the job as we speak.
More money=more performance/20% at that.
Market=Reacted.
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#60
harm9963
A FOOL AND HIS MONEY ARE SOON PARTED, paid $629 for a new 1080Ti, theirs noting left to gaped.
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#61
Vayra86
Nater
That will be a HUGE boon to the consoles. Insanity.
Yeah because you need the top end card to game, right?

Looking at the lower segments, 1080ti performance can soon be had for under 400 bucks, most likely. Above that you have 2080S for 500-ish. I'm not sure how that isn't progress, despite the fact top end cards keep increasing their lead and get a price hike to match. That was the case with 2080ti, it is the case now, and it has ALWAYS been the case for the halo product(s). What's new?

Besides, its an x90 so stop whining, you get a higher number for your money :D

Or... just don't buy it, you know. I must say the current stack leak that looks most credible, isn't exactly the most mouth watering to me. Even completely disregarding pricing.. and lots of info still missing.
theoneandonlymrk
That's how you see it?

Can you imagine the number of 1080tis(actually , like the 8800 a legend card) that sold relative to the 2080Ti(meh for the money)?.

They can set whatever price they want yes but the market Will and Is reacting.

There's rumours of two other new discrete GPU maker's now and Intel are on the job as we speak.
More money=more performance/20% at that.
Market=Reacted.
They never wanted to sell many 2080ti's because they didn't have any. They had substantial delays, a bad batch and overall not the greatest of yields if you consider the humongous size of the die. You and I both know the thing wasn't readily available not because people bought them like hotcakes, but simply because there weren't any. Same story as Radeon VII really, or Vega early days. New tech, big chip, its always the same story.

This 3090 is very similar and the price tag also underlines Navi hasn't got anything on it, unless ppl believe AMD will price something along these lines... Not even remotely close, I think.

They (NV) now need a big die on a new node (!) and they'll likely feed on the failed Titan Ampere's (Titania? :p) for it. That's not gonna be a huge stack of gpus, and on top of that, they'll need to source new top-end memory for it as well.
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#62
Hemmingstamp
theoneandonlymrk
Market=Reacted.
That's 'Meerkat's' in the UK mate, you know that ;)
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#63
dirtyferret
This changes everything!!!...I'm getting two, one as a back up.
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#64
DuxCro
You know what? I could buy this card even if it did cost that much. I'm from EU so it will be €2000 or more here. But after paying that much, i would feel guilt and i wouldn't enjoy it.
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#65
Hemmingstamp
dirtyferret
This changes everything!!!...I'm getting two, one as a back up.
Just get 8 for the rumoured upcoming Octa-SLI :cool:
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#66
Vayra86
Hemmingstamp
Just get 8 for the rumoured upcoming Octa-SLI :cool:
That'd be a screamer lol
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#67
Fluffmeister
The price does tend to imply they aren't that worried about Big Navi.

Eek, the horror!
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#68
mouacyk
Vayra86
They never wanted to sell many 2080ti's because they didn't have any. They had substantial delays, a bad batch and overall not the greatest of yields if you consider the humongous size of the die. You and I both know the thing wasn't readily available not because people bought them like hotcakes, but simply because there weren't any. Same story as Radeon VII really, or Vega early days. New tech, big chip, its always the same story.
The low yield makes sense, as that would also explain the high RMA rate of 2080 Tis. Because they didn't have enough to sell, they were letting partially tested chips onto the market to lock consumers in and let customer service deal with it. These consumers were diehard fans -- they would go through multiple RMA's just to get a working one too.
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#69
murr
No thanks. I can do a lot more with 2 grand then get a couple more FPS.
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#70
Vayra86
mouacyk
The low yield makes sense, as that would also explain the high RMA rate of 2080 Tis. Because they didn't have enough to sell, they were letting partially tested chips onto the market to lock consumers in and let customer service deal with it. These consumers were diehard fans -- they would go through multiple RMA's just to get a working one too.
Naturally, random people and Nvidia wil categorically deny this ;)
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#71
HD64G
3080 will end up priced close to $1000 and the 3080Ti/3090 close to $1500 with a special version having double the VRAM and maybe a BIOS unlocked for OC for $2000. My 5c.
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#72
dirtyferret
Vayra86
That'd be a screamer lol
We would need to get 8x Nvidia 12pin PCI-e power cables, Jensen Huang would have an orgasm
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#73
theoneandonlymrk
Vayra86
Yeah because you need the top end card to game, right?

Looking at the lower segments, 1080ti performance can soon be had for under 400 bucks, most likely. Above that you have 2080S for 500-ish. I'm not sure how that isn't progress, despite the fact top end cards keep increasing their lead and get a price hike to match. That was the case with 2080ti, it is the case now, and it has ALWAYS been the case for the halo product(s). What's new?

Besides, its an x90 so stop whining, you get a higher number for your money :D

Or... just don't buy it, you know. I must say the current stack leak that looks most credible, isn't exactly the most mouth watering to me. Even completely disregarding pricing.. and lots of info still missing.



They never wanted to sell many 2080ti's because they didn't have any. They had substantial delays, a bad batch and overall not the greatest of yields if you consider the humongous size of the die. You and I both know the thing wasn't readily available not because people bought them like hotcakes, but simply because there weren't any. Same story as Radeon VII really, or Vega early days. New tech, big chip, its always the same story.

This 3090 is very similar and the price tag also underlines Navi hasn't got anything on it, unless ppl believe AMD will price something along these lines... Not even remotely close, I think.

They (NV) now need a big die on a new node (!) and they'll likely feed on the failed Titan Ampere's (Titania? :p) for it. That's not gonna be a huge stack of gpus, and on top of that, they'll need to source new top-end memory for it as well.
I went with same tier , it's clear the only GPU they had that could be called a 2080ti was too big to make many of before they made it.
They're goal was to retain top spot only, but it's not mine/ our fault Nvidia couldn't make an 80 series card that was good enough to sell and actually possible to manufacture in numbers.

They set the naming scheme,the design and node.

And though I understand and mostly agree with your points it's certainly not true to say they don't want to sell many.

In an ideal situation and world they would have been very happy to sell four times the amount of 2080ti's.
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#74
Hemmingstamp
dirtyferret
We would need to get 8x Nvidia 12pin PCI-e power cables, Jensen Huang would have an orgasm
I was thinking more along the lines of your own nuclear power plant ;)
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#75
GhostRyder
Whelp, I hope that some of this is not true but I had a feeling the new top in 'gamer' card was gonna be around the $1500 mark. Looks like they are going beyond that. I will have to see reviews to figure out which one I am getting this round as I am a little skeptical of spending that much for the top end unless it seriously makes a huge performance difference. $1200 was already a bit of a swallow especially because I intend to rebuild my rigs cooling this round with the new card (Water block cost etc lol).
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