Saturday, January 23rd 2021

AMD is Allegedly Preparing Navi 31 GPU with Dual 80 CU Chiplet Design

AMD is about to enter the world of chiplets with its upcoming GPUs, just like it has been doing so with the Zen generation of processors. Having launched a Radeon RX 6000 series lineup based on Navi 21 and Navi 22, the company is seemingly not stopping there. To remain competitive, it needs to be in the constant process of innovation and development, which is reportedly true once again. According to the current rumors, AMD is working on an RDNA 3 GPU design based on chiplets. The chiplet design is supposed to feature two 80 Compute Unit (CU) dies, just like the ones found inside the Radeon RX 6900 XT graphics card.

Having two 80 CU dies would bring the total core number to exactly 10240 cores (two times 5120 cores on Navi 21 die). Combined with the RDNA 3 architecture, which brings better perf-per-watt compared to the last generation uArch, Navi 31 GPU is going to be a compute monster. It isn't exactly clear whatever we are supposed to get this graphics card, however, it may be coming at the end of this year or the beginning of the following year 2022.
Source: VideoCardz
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141 Comments on AMD is Allegedly Preparing Navi 31 GPU with Dual 80 CU Chiplet Design

#1
Dristun
So, 1999$ MSRP, 3k+ on the market? :laugh:
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#2
DeathtoGnomes
The Voodoo that you do so welllll!

"paper launch q1 2023!" :rolleyes:
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#3
spnidel
DristunSo, 1999$ MSRP, 3k+ on the market? :laugh:
and a grand total of 5 units manufactured throughout the entire year, only to be sold by scalpers
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#4
AusWolf
spnideland a grand total of 5 units manufactured throughout the entire year, only to be sold by scalpers
Never mind, even if you could afford it and actually buy it, there's no power supply on this planet that can feed this beast.
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#5
MrGRiMv25
Considering it mentions RDNA 3 as the base for the two chiplets then I'd doubt it would be this year at the earliest, and would probably be late next year?
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#6
rsouzadk
This supply mrsp thing is really becoming a fucking meme right now.
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#7
Chrispy_
"We heard you liked stock shortages, so we're going to take the constrained supply you're waiting on and use it to make half as many graphics cards"
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#8
Octopuss
Meanwhile in Czech republic for example:
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#9
HD64G
5nm could easily make that happen and consume close to 350W at over 2GHz. Especially if combined with HBM(3?) for low latency which might be needed more when using chiplets.
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#10
medi01
DeathtoGnomesThe Voodoo that you do so welllll!

"paper launch q1 2023!" :rolleyes:
Why people keep mumming "paper launch", when cards are available in online stores (e.g. mindfactory in Germany) for WEEKS?
Now, yeah, pricing is way above MSRP, but so was 2080Ti's price up until Ampere came.
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#11
Chrispy_
rsouzadkThis supply mrsp thing is really becoming a fucking meme right now.
I just feel sorry for people who didn't pick up a modern GPU last generation. They're completely boned right now.

It's understandable, too, because Turing was a complete rip-off for the first year on the market, and then when Navi arrived on the scene a year late the party it was underwhelming AF; The 5700 wasn't even 15% faster than the Vega56, and even at MSRP, it actually offered lower performance/$. Street pricing on Vega56 by that point was way lower than the 5700-series ever reached.

The only "good" thing that happened that entire generation is that AMD rejoining the GPU market after a year of total nothingness brought TU104 down to under $500 in the 2070 Super. That didn't make it good value, but at least it restored price/performance to somewhere that wasn't obscene. Unfortunately Nvidia stopped manufacturing Turing around 9 months after the Super series launched, so if you didn't grab one during that short window you're SOL right now.
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#12
dyonoctis
Remember when you could get excited about a futur product without wondering if you could get them, but rather when and how it will perform ? I miss those simplier times.
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#13
AusWolf
Chrispy_I just feel sorry for people who didn't pick up a modern GPU last generation. They're completely boned right now.

It's understandable, too, because Turing was a complete rip-off for the first year on the market, and then when Navi arrived on the scene a year late the party it was underwhelming AF; The 5700 wasn't even 15% faster than the Vega56, and even at MSRP, it actually offered lower performance/$.

The only "good" thing that happened that entire generation is that AMD rejoining the GPU market after a year of total nothingness brought TU104 down to under $500 in the 2070 Super. That didn't make it good value, but at least it restored price/performance to somewhere that wasn't obscene. Unfortunately Nvidia stopped manufacturing Turing around 9 months after the Super series launched, so if you didn't grab one in that window you're SOL right now.
The other thing about Navi is that it was still available when Turing was already out of stock and Ampere wasn't available yet (as it still isn't). That's how and why I managed to pick up my 5700 XT that will hopefully keep me happy for at least a good year or two.
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#14
Chrispy_
AusWolfThe other thing about Navi is that it was still available when Turing was already out of stock and Ampere wasn't available yet (as it still isn't). That's how and why I managed to pick up my 5700 XT that will hopefully keep me happy for at least a good year or two.
My 5700XT is doing fine work, I bought it at launch and given what a damp squib RTX has been, it's turned out to be an excellent investment.

CP2077's DLSS is the first time I though that the 2070S I also own showed any noteworthy advantage over the 5700XT. Again, DLSS has been a complete non-feature for over two years, because until CP2077 showed up, none of the implementations of it were worth writing home about.

Unfortunately the miners have ruined it all again, I'm seeing 5700-series cards at almost 50% premium over MSRP, which was never that competitive in the first place....
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#15
Robert Bourgoin
Probably be around $4000.00 if you can find one.
Crazy how computer building has gone.
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#16
AusWolf
Chrispy_My 5700XT is doing fine work, I bought it at launch and given what a damp squib RTX has been, it's turned out to be an excellent investment.

CP2077's DLSS is the first time I though that the 2070S I also own showed any noteworthy advantage over the 5700XT. Again, DLSS has been a complete non-feature for over two years, because until CP2077 showed up, none of the implementations of it were worth writing home about.

Unfortunately the miners have ruined it all again, I'm seeing 5700-series cards at almost 50% premium over MSRP, which was never that competitive in the first place....
To be honest, I still don't give a **** about DLSS, and I don't think I ever will. I'd much rather run everything at native resolution without any AA. Ray tracing is a little tempting, but it's still in its early stages even with Ampere. Not worth the premium just yet imo.
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#17
Unregistered
Chrispy_I just feel sorry for people who didn't pick up a modern GPU last generation. They're completely boned right now.
My 2070 died in December 2020 and I had a panic attack because this is the worst time for a GPU to die. No iGPU meant no using PC until I got a new GPU. So glad I found a 3070 Gaming X Trio in stock close to MSRP.
#18
TumbleGeorge
How expect to be infinity cache of this monster? 256 or 512MB...1GB?
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#19
AusWolf
AlexaMy 2070 died in December 2020 and I had a panic attack because this is the worst time for a GPU to die. No iGPU meant no using PC until I got a new GPU. So glad I found a 3070 Gaming X Trio in stock close to MSRP.
Maybe I'm weird, but I have a 1050 Ti on the shelf just for this purpose. :D
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Unregistered
AusWolfMaybe I'm weird, but I have a 1050 Ti on the shelf just for this purpose. :D
I have no parts lying around other than the ones in my PC, I suppose I should buy some cheapo gpu just for this lol
TumbleGeorgeHow expect to be infinity cache of this monster? 256 or 512MB...1GB?
Doubt it's anything above 256MB.
#21
neatfeatguy
Chrispy_My 5700XT is doing fine work, I bought it at launch and given what a damp squib RTX has been, it's turned out to be an excellent investment.

CP2077's DLSS is the first time I though that the 2070S I also own showed any noteworthy advantage over the 5700XT. Again, DLSS has been a complete non-feature for over two years, because until CP2077 showed up, none of the implementations of it were worth writing home about.

Unfortunately the miners have ruined it all again, I'm seeing 5700-series cards at almost 50% premium over MSRP, which was never that competitive in the first place....
My brother picked up a 5700 XT two Decembers back. He spent about $400 on it. I told him if he wanted to nearly double his money he could sell it on ebay - they're fetching upwards of $700+. But he doesn't have a spare GPU so he couldn't play any games...

He's not much on following hardware and I explained to him how his card,normally would only bring around $200 or so at this point on the second hand market and that GPUs were hard to find. He started looking around and noticed no one has any new GPUs in stock and that ebay prices for scalping was astronomical.
AlexaI have no parts lying around other than the ones in my PC, I suppose I should buy some cheapo gpu just for this lol


Doubt it's anything above 256MB.
Keep old hardware. I've got two spare PSUs, spare RAM (well, DDR3 so it wouldn't help if my new build needed RAM to test with) and two GPUs. When I upgrade I try to keep old working hardware for spare parts in testing just to have for a backup so I can figure out any possible problems that come up in the future if I need spare parts to test with.
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#22
damric
10240 cores (two times 5120 cores on Navi 21 die). Combined with the RDNA 3 architecture, which brings better perf-per-watt compared to the last generation uArch, Navi 31 GPU is going to be a compute monster.

Great I'm sure miners will love it.
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#23
Turmania
AusWolfMaybe I'm weird, but I have a 1050 Ti on the shelf just for this purpose. :D
No, you are very clever, I have gtx 1060 on the shelf as well for that purpose.
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#24
ZoneDymo
dyonoctisRemember when you could get excited about a futur product without wondering if you could get them, but rather when and how it will perform ? I miss those simplier times.
Well you can still wonder on how it will preform, there are youtubers for that who will get one for review.
I was never in the market for 1000 dollar gpus and will never be either so does not change much for me if they are available or not.
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#25
ZoneDymo
AusWolfMaybe I'm weird, but I have a 1050 Ti on the shelf just for this purpose. :D
Always have back up parts, perferably evne a complete back up pc so you can chuck your main storage drive in there if something is wrong with it.
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