altcapwnWorking in IT / Security, I wouldn't want to be in CD Projekt red shoes.
At this point, I just hope for them they bought back their own data.

Poor bastards.

Concerning Cyberpunk 2077, their mistake was to give a release date instead of leaving it TBD until ready.
I personally still love the game as I didn't drank all their marketing bullshit and false promises so my expectations weren't high.
But from playing the game you can clearly see that some quests aren't finished, some features are missing, some gameplay systems are broken and unfinished, but damn story wise it's "CD Projekt Red" quality.

But I'm SURE they will fix everything, I just remember how Witcher 3 UI was a nightmare on release, and the missing features could be released as *free* DLC I hope.

Second playthrough as of now, trying to get the secret ending.

ZoneDymo"And despite any ill sentiment that can be levied at the company for the state of Cyberpunk 2077's last-gen versions, I'd say that respect for the company's developers and team should have us all on their side on this one."

yeaaahhhhhh no, I dont even care about the last-gen versions, that is so beyond unacceptable its pathetic, all anyone had to do was start the game up 1 afternoon to figure out it was not ready for release but apperently that was too much work, better cash in on those pre-orders and dont release a new trailer that actually represented to lack of content it has, not even a shadow of the promisses.

Imagine though this being some eleborate scheme to create some sympathy by them being the victims and then have modders go ham on teh source code to fix the game for them, ez money for no effort.

VarioI could potentially see Chinese region specific games with elements of the stolen code given China's history of IP theft, but otherwise its going to be hard to sell any product based on this code.

VarioI could potentially see Chinese region specific games with elements of the stolen code given China's history of IP theft, but otherwise its going to be hard to sell any product based on this code.

ixiDont agree with your opinion. The more time you have the more possibilities you can add and polish them.

AusWolfCDPR botched the CP77 launch, true, but how can you connect individual opinion of a game to the fact that the source code of some highly successful games were stolen and potentially sold? Even if it was EA (a company whose business practices are hated by almost everyone), I would still side with them. Theft of one's intellectual property is not the answer to anything.

It's like reading the news of a murder and commenting: "well deserved, the victim was a fat bastard anyway". Disgraceful.

ixiWhy?

DeathtoGnomestime spent developing does not matter, the end product does. Time is by no means any way judge a game.

altcapwnConcerning Cyberpunk 2077, their mistake was to give a release date instead of leaving it TBD until ready.

TartarosAs someone commented before, is there any problem if the code is leaked? They have no mp games so no online aspect to be careful with, and people will have to give up on torrenting those games if the torrents were published from now on, and mods. Apart of that, what else could happen, if someone releases a game with a part of the source code copied they would be liable for a crime no?

altcapwnChinesePunk 2077; in a dystopic society ravaged by an oppressing government and an ongoing pandemic, our hero falls into criminality as its his only way to survive without any job and revenue.

ZoneDymouhh this might be a little dark for you but if the "victim" indeed was a idk, child molesting, rapist, etc etc waste of air then I would indeed say "well deserved" if they ended up being murdered.


Source code was stolen sure, but then imo they stole a bunch of money from the people as well launching fake trailers and broken products and not telling anyone the truth beforehand, so yeah, I dont shed a tear for them sorry.

moobWe know that there was an auction but there's no evidence anyone actually bought it.

OctopussAnd is anyone so stupid to believe the hackers' word they wouldn't publish the data IF <something>?

Solaris17Yes actually. If the group that did the exfiltration is known enough by reputation then compliance is important. It is a business deal after all and trust weirdly does go both ways. If they sold the source for a few million.

Then turned around and tried to hawk it again the public at large would find out and the companies or entities this group is trying to do business with would stop doing business with them.

This happen A LOT in the security industry, but is generally out of scope of this forum so it doesn't surprise me almost 0 members understand this. It happens all the time when massive conglomerates like hospitals or fedex get hit with ransomware.

Its literally within the best interest of the hacking group to be honest.

AusWolfThey never stole money from anyone. People (myself included) paid willingly for a product. Sure, the game did not live up to expectations because of the bugs, but CDPR is constantly working on it still. I pre-ordered the game a couple weeks before launch, and haven't even touched it yet. I'm not saying that everybody should wait half a year before playing a new game. All I'm saying is, you got something for your money. Something that's slowly improving as we speak. You can ask for a refund, or just stop crying. The product in no way has any connection with any criminal activity. Like I said, if this had happened with EA, a company that charges a fortune for DLCs and skin packs, it would still be wrong.

If you order pizza, and it ends up being not very tasty, do you go and rob the pizza place?

ZoneDymoIts hard to quantify but im sure you can atleast throw this under "false advertisement" hence the lawsuits against them, again the old trailer did not represent the game because the game was barely made at all and then they had to scramble to match that bullcrap trailer that tried to and did sell us on the game.
Why were you interested in this game? because of what they claimed what was in it due to that trailer and again, the end product is not even a remote shadow of that trailer, its a complete lie and they never released a new trailer or statement beforehand to warn anyone if the complete lack of anything the game they were buying actually was.

The bugs and glitches is actually not the issues, its the complete lack of content.

AusWolfIf you order pizza, and it ends up being not very tasty, do you go and rob the pizza place?

BzucoI see this on every forum. People are trying to find example from real life to describe what cdpr management committed against customers. And people always failed. So I will correct your example to make more sense, even it is still not suitable example.
It should be something like this: "If you order pizza, and it ends up being not very tasty, it is not the right size,..., and after a while you will find out that this happend not only to you, but also 8 milion people, and even after few days/weeks there is no sign of correction and immediate refunds is not guaranted, and the owner of the pizzeria had no noble reason to keep the facts secret ...yes, then bad things start.
Again, your pizza story is bad example, but you know where I am pointing.

AusWolfThe only bad thing about the pizza example is that you don't necessarily get refunds for a pizza, whereas a game definitely gets refunded if you meet the store's criteria. For example, Steam doesn't need a reason to refund anything within 14 days of purchase and 2 hours of play time. They've also got a community review system, which not every pizza place can say about themselves.

I agree with the part that there's nothing noble about the pizza place. It's a business. Equally, there's nothing noble about the hackers. They're just a bunch of criminals hiding behind the false idea of social justice.