lynx29AMD is way overvalued right now. I mean yeah everything sells out quick true, but honestly these are very very niche markets, eventually everyone will have a decent PC within this niche market and have no need to upgrade for 5 years or more. I mean I am using my gtx 1070 laptop and maxxing out FFXIV mmo at 165 fps 165hz 1080p and having a blast... at some point you just don't really need horsepower anymore unless you play the latest AAA games (which suck a lot here lately anyway so meh)

(also they can't be making much money on PS5 or xbox series x... I believe both sony and M$ are taking a loss on each sale of the console if I remember correctly, which prob means means pennies in profit for AMD)

I give it two years or so, AMD will probably reach $140 a share at its peak but then crash to $50-60 share range once the market is no longer in demand and the shelves are saturated with stock. but nothing wrong with riding high while you can so more power to them.

Nvidia however will keep rising and rising, Nvidia has its tentacles deep into the healthcare world now and AMD does not, and thats where the real money is at short and long term.

Microsoft and pony are taking a loss because they have to pay AMD, along with other component makers. There's no point for AMD to work on their APU if they are making pennies.

We're in the biggest financial bubble in history. A huge crash is coming, you better believe it. Apparently it could be as soon as later this year.

Shatun_BearWe're in the biggest financial bubble in history. A huge crash is coming, you better believe it. Apparently it could be as soon as later this year.

I think it was really odd, how when covid first started, the stock market tanked like to levels seen at great depression levels of drop... then within two months had bounced back to almost normal levels.

Seems weird to me, a little fishy. lol @RandallFlagg thoughts?

lynx29Nvidia however will keep rising and rising, Nvidia has its tentacles deep into the healthcare world now and AMD does not, and thats where the real money is at short and long term.

That is so funny. AMD never had a stock dump quite the same in the near past like it was first a speculation for Nvidia. At the time there were mixed reports, some were saying stock would go up and others bringing the issue up. In the end, both turned out right.
I'll believe it when I see it.

demian_viMicrosoft and pony are taking a loss because they have to pay AMD, along with other component makers. There's no point for AMD to work on their APU if they are making pennies.

Ironically, Raja Khoduri's damage is being erased. VLIW was always to be the better choice as it turned out to be in the end. Eric Demers needed that post more than the indian turncoat.

lynx29I think it was really odd, how when covid first started, the stock market tanked like to levels seen at great depression levels of drop... then within two months had bounced back to almost normal levels.

Seems weird to me, a little fishy. lol @RandallFlagg thoughts?

Well the governments around the world pumping literal trillions of money into their economies has postponed the inevitable crash. If you own any stock, or are about to take out a mortgage, you should read this:

moneyweek.com/investments/investment-strategy/603678/jeremy-grantham-podcast?amp

mtcn77That is so funny. AMD never had a stock dump quite the same in the near past like it was first a speculation for Nvidia. At the time there were mixed reports, some were saying stock would go up and others bringing the issue up. In the end, both turned out right.
I'll believe it when I see it.

I think climate change is happening faster than we anticipated, compound that with what Shatun just said above. I recommend buying seeds and growing your own food over buying stocks.

lynx29I think climate change is happening faster than we anticipated, compound that with what Shatun just said above. I recommend buying seeds and growing your own food over buying stocks.

Well, we are completely desolating our soils because we can't leave fungi to breakdown fertilized soil for fear of dysentery. We have to have hooved animals upheave 'naturally' fertilized soil at the rainy season because that is how the ecosystem is designed to function. Otherwise we have erosion since fungi is not getting the stimulus it needs from plant matter and fresh livestock fertilizer. We also have to create more wetlands, but thanks to indians and their high level of intelligence we have rediscovered underground dams which elevate my hopes for humanity.

We can fix this if we change our course - water needs to be stored in wetlands underground away from evaporation and livestock need to fertilize and upheave soil at the rainy season "on the spot" to turn around soil erosion.

mtcn77Well, we are completely desolating our soils because we can't leave fungi to breakdown fertilized soil for fear of dysentery. We have to have hooved animals upheave 'naturally' fertilized soil at the rainy season because that is how the ecosystem is designed to function. Otherwise we have erosion since fungi is not getting the stimulus it needs from plant matter and fresh livestock fertilizer. We also have to create more wetlands, but thanks to indians and their intelligence we have rediscovered underground dams which elevate my hopes for humanity. We can fix this if we change our course - water needs to be stored in wetlands and livestock need to fertilize and upheave soil at the rainy season "on the spot" to turn around soil erosion.

If you haven't read it yet, I highly recommend The Omnivore's Dilemma by Michael Pollan. A great book. There are a couple farms doing farming it the proper sustainable way, but not very many sadly.

lynx29If you haven't read it yet, I highly recommend The Omnivore's Dilemma by Michael Pollan. A great book. There are a couple farms doing farming it the proper sustainable way, but not very many sadly.

I am not seeing a way future without fully organic ecology. I mean there has been crazy experiments that proved their exception. Stupid darwin ideologues killed some 20000 elephants and not upturn erosion there and reluctantly admitted that "biology is good". What I hate most is a moral looter like a lamarckist in the pretext of darwinism.

This urban landscape has everything for globalwarming. No water conservation, no temperature buffering, wind erosion(concrete turns to dust in the span of decades).

Easy RhinoYes and many people here on TPU even warning others away from purchasing the stock.

No worries, they will be again there. Pumping money in consumer hardware sales just give good return on investments (from pockets of the customers). It is supported by thin air, not more than that.
Just think, amd's superduper processors are actually oldy server solutions...that are actually so expensive that only very little group of people can afford it. And based on this fame, all the other sh*t is sold with slightly overprice. K'mon man! This won't last for long to be unnoticed.
Their gpus still suck, as there is no good support for production business. Even the enthusiastic professionals build new pc from amd+nvidia rather amd's dream to sell amd+amd...this will fail.
Only the group it works is the gamers. They produce nothing, but consume only. And this is not enough to keep 100$.

Let's wait on intel a bit. And meanwhile we can use old goody HPC platforms for serwers/workstations. Price wise its more tasty today.