Friday, March 4th 2022

TSMC Said to be Close to Completing N3E Node

TSMC is working on multiple N3 nodes, with at least N3, N3B and N3E currently being in development. N3 is scheduled for production in 2023, with the N3E node originally being scheduled for 2024, but it now looks like it will be ready ahead of schedule. The N3E node was meant to be an enhanced version of the N3 node, but it now seems to be more of an alternative node, based on fewer EUV layers, supposedly down from 25 to 21 layers, which would make it easier to manufacture. According to details via Morgan Stanley, the N3E node is said to be around eight percent less dense than the original N3 node, but still around 60 percent denser than the N5 node. For comparison, the N3 node was said to have 70 percent denser logic than the N5 node.

The report suggests that the N3E node might be finished by the end of this month, which means production could end up being pulled in by a whole quarter, from Q3'23 to Q2'23. The N3E node is said to "feature improved manufacturing process window with better performance, power and yield", so we might see the N3E node being used for future products by just about anyone that is looking at making high-performance silicon. The N3E node is also said to have higher yields than the N3B node, with N3B said to be an improved version of N3 for certain customers. Not much else is known about the N3B node at the moment.
Sources: Morgan Stanley, @chiakokhua, Anandtech (TSMC roadmap details)
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14 Comments on TSMC Said to be Close to Completing N3E Node

#1
P4-630
Thanks ASML!.....
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#2
Daven
P4-630Thanks ASML!.....
Thanks shipping companies for delivering ASML machines.
Thanks universities for educating everyone who creates the machines.
Thanks road workers for helping students get to class.
Thanks governments for public school education.
Thanks farmers for feeding the teachers, students, road workers, ASML employees, etc
Thanks…you see where I’m going with this right?
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#3
zlobby
DavenThanks shipping companies for delivering ASML machines.
Thanks universities for educating everyone who creates the machines.
Thanks road workers for helping students get to class.
Thanks governments for public school education.
Thanks farmers for feeding the teachers, students, road workers, ASML employees, etc
Thanks…you see where I’m going with this right?
Yes! And China is very happy! All there for the taking.
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#4
mechtech
Is the E for Excellent profits??
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#5
Vayra86
zlobbyYes! And China is very happy! All there for the taking.
Nope

www.todayonline.com/world/asml-still-has-no-licence-ship-newest-machines-china-ceo-1794556

Last I checked they dont own Taiwan yet
DavenThanks shipping companies for delivering ASML machines.
Thanks universities for educating everyone who creates the machines.
Thanks road workers for helping students get to class.
Thanks governments for public school education.
Thanks farmers for feeding the teachers, students, road workers, ASML employees, etc
Thanks…you see where I’m going with this right?
The fact that every industry has a supply chain?!

This is cutting edge tech. The supply chain is completely adjusted to delivering the parts needed, and everything is customized for ASML machinery. So without the machines, everything else ceases to exist.
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#6
watzupken
With the rumoured problem with their N3 yields, I am sure Apple is hounding them to give them alternatives for the money they paid for N3.
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#7
Daven
Vayra86Nope

www.todayonline.com/world/asml-still-has-no-licence-ship-newest-machines-china-ceo-1794556

Last I checked they dont own Taiwan yet



The fact that every industry has a supply chain?!

This is cutting edge tech. The supply chain is completely adjusted to delivering the parts needed, and everything is customized for ASML machinery. So without the machines, everything else ceases to exist.
So by your logic the screw industry only exists because ASML uses screws. The metal mining and machining industry exists because ASML uses metal and machines parts.

You should have stopped your comment at every industry (company) has a supply chain. No question mark. Because of this fact TSMC is no less or more relevant because it buys things from others for the normal operations of its business than ASML and any other business that buys things for its normal operations.
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Vayra86
DavenSo by your logic the screw industry only exists because ASML uses screws. The metal mining and machining industry exists because ASML uses metal and machines parts.

You should have stopped your comment at every industry (company) has a supply chain. No question mark. Because of this fact TSMC is no less or more relevant because it buys things from others for the normal operations of its business than ASML and any other business that buys things for its normal operations.
No, the 'special ASML screws' business exists because of ASML. That is what I said. It means that just the machines arent the whole deal. You also need a string of companies that are producing state of the art components - unique components at that.
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#9
Bomby569
watzupkenWith the rumoured problem with their N3 yields, I am sure Apple is hounding them to give them alternatives for the money they paid for N3.
Like Apple or anyone has other options. Better not to complain too much because there's a line of people happy to take their place.
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#10
Steevo
The US and EU better pull their heads out and use executive power to get nodes like this and nodes that can be radiation hardened up and running here before the power flips to China and Russia and we lose years trying to get these facilities up and running. But with the current dementia in chief and idiots running congress I doubt anything will happen since they are owned by China.
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#11
Denver
At this point, everyone should be rooting for Samsung to fix its manufacturing process. Intel already assumed that it can't keep up with TSMC when started manufacturing its GPU chips there.

Go Samsung!
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#12
Vayra86
DenverAt this point, everyone should be rooting for Samsung to fix its manufacturing process. Intel already assumed that it can't keep up with TSMC when started manufacturing its GPU chips there.

Go Samsung!
Yeah! Root for the most frequently lying company. Raaaah
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#13
Denver
Vayra86Yeah! Root for the most frequently lying company. Raaaah
Yeah, There are no options. Let's hope samsung employees are more honest at work too!
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#14
TheinsanegamerN
Vayra86Yeah! Root for the most frequently lying company. Raaaah
Yeah! Much better to have a monopoly where only the 1% can afford their products!
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