Wednesday, March 9th 2022
AMD Asks Motherboard Makers to Remove Overclocking Options for Ryzen 7 5800X3D
TechPowerUp has verified a rumour posted over on VideoCardz that is quite puzzling, as AMD has asked motherboard makers to remove support for overclocking in the UEFI/BIOS for the Ryzen 7 5800X3D. When we asked for a reason as to why this was the case, we were told that AMD was keeping that information to themselves for the time being. The details provided by AMD are short and to the point "5800X3D 8C16T 100-xxxxxxxxx 105 W AGESA: PI 1206b 1/28 Please hide Vermeer-X CPU OC BIOS SETUP options".
The information suggests that this happened back at the end of January, although it's no surprise that this information took some time to leak, as it's not the kind of information that would normally make its way outside of the motherboard manufacturers. AGESA 1.2.0.6 B is also the most current release for a wide range of motherboards, even though it doesn't seem to be offered as a final release from all of the board makers just yet. It's unclear why AMD has done this, but it suggests that there might be some issues related to the 3D V-Cache and overclocking.
Source:
VideoCardz
The information suggests that this happened back at the end of January, although it's no surprise that this information took some time to leak, as it's not the kind of information that would normally make its way outside of the motherboard manufacturers. AGESA 1.2.0.6 B is also the most current release for a wide range of motherboards, even though it doesn't seem to be offered as a final release from all of the board makers just yet. It's unclear why AMD has done this, but it suggests that there might be some issues related to the 3D V-Cache and overclocking.
115 Comments on AMD Asks Motherboard Makers to Remove Overclocking Options for Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Had a BP6 with a pair of Celeron 300's at 450MHz. I don't think I ever put any load on the second CPU :roll:
Then again, I have had a whole bunch of stuff over the years, because I could and it was cool/fun, without costing a fortune.
These days I feel like this hobby of ours is about to die, as the parts are hitting prices most of us are unwilling to pay.
The i3-12100f is a hundred eurobucks, can be cranked over 20% - easily more, depending on how lucky you get with the memory controller on locked System Agent (memory controller) voltage.
Really cool stuff.. At some indeterminate point in time!
not expensive who understands what they getting, for it.
At the end of the day u get a 8 core cpu for 449$ with oc lock, with some more cache.
In 6 Month come Zen 4 and Raptor Lake, while u cant oc the great 58003dxyz and get beatn by the counterparts.
16 threads
If it matches or beats a 24 thread intel chip would it matter if it's 8 core anymore ?
I'd say nope.
with zen 4 or raptor lake ull get a 8 core + board + 16gb ram for that.
Amd isnt stupid to make creative money,
get the garbage from the epyc and sell the customer that garbage for a unicorn.
If one's plan is to skip the first revision of Zen 4 or to go to Zen 5.
Lots of people start out builds with cheaper chips knowing better chips will drop in price after 6 months.. or better chips will release later
Just saving money in the long run and lots of upgrade options.
The 5800X3D does have lowered clocks compared to the 5800X...
Oh wait, I'm out of line here; *ahem* AMD bad. That should suffice.
Also a bit saddened to see all the people here who've lost all enthusiasm for tweaking and overclocking. It certainly isn't as fun as it used to be when 50% OCs were normal but let's not kill it altogether shall we?
if i want i buy me some royal z just for fun :laugh:
Nowadays a poor performance but a cool style, maybe ill buy a kit to my i3
What's really intersting to me is could the 5800X3D work with an older AGESA version that does not have these limits?
People have got 5000 series to boot on 300 series boards despite those not having support for Zen 3 in BIOS. And since X3D will be very similar to 5800X i wonder if someone could test overclocking it this way on say B550 or X570 with AGESA 1.2.0.3b or later.
if I had to choose between a heavily clocked 5800x and a 5800x with 96 mb of 3d cache would be an easy choice.