Wednesday, July 20th 2022

TikTok's Parent Company ByteDance Starts Developing Custom Processors

TikTok's parent company ByteDance has recently begun hiring chip designers to help develop specialized processors for fields where they haven't been able to find existing suppliers. The company is looking to design chips that are optimized for hosting their video, information, and entertainment apps without any plans to sell these processors to other companies. This latest announcement follows various other Chinese companies such as Alibaba and Baidu in developing custom processors to decrease their reliance on foreign companies and improve performance in specific tasks. The initial job listings only include 31 openings for positions such as experts, specialists, and interns with more staff likely required in the future.
Source: CNBC
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29 Comments on TikTok's Parent Company ByteDance Starts Developing Custom Processors

#2
DeathtoGnomes
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Uskompufparent company ByteDance
With TikTok all over the news recently on concerns over data collection, I'm sure China owned ByteDance throws up no red flags to a few people. IDK about anyone else, but this screams of backdoor identity data collection.
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#3
R0H1T
DeathtoGnomesB

With TikTok all over the news recently on concerns over data collection, I'm sure China owned ByteDance throws up no red flags to a few people. IDK about anyone else, but this screams of backdoor identity data collection.
Well they already have front door red carpet entry, they don't really need to do anything more. This is likely just for their own servers, like Alibaba ~
www.tomshardware.com/news/china-designed-128-core-cpu-takes-overall-integer-performance-lead
Probably custom ARM chips, which will be a lot cheaper than x86 counterparts!
www.benzinga.com/news/22/07/28110813/tiktok-parent-treads-on-alibabas-path-to-reduce-dependence-on-foreign-tech-read-to-know
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#4
Vayra86
DeathtoGnomesB

With TikTok all over the news recently on concerns over data collection, I'm sure China owned ByteDance throws up no red flags to a few people. IDK about anyone else, but this screams of backdoor identity data collection.
TikTok is definitely not happening on any phone my kid will get her hands on that is for sure.

We have a job here, as parents, to protect ourselves and our family. Anyone who disagrees is just a naive fool. And they need to know this - preferably in a way that motivates them to do something about it.

BTW similar things apply to anything Meta and most social media platforms. Like Whatsapp. Use a safe alternative, its simple and called Signal. Our data is a commodity and can be used to exercise control over us, we really need to get that imprinted in our brains. Data ownership belongs to the owner. You and me - and anyone we feel needs it.
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#5
R0H1T
Just you wait, I'm sure you'll probably join in the fad eventually :D

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#6
Jeager
Vayra86TikTok is definitely not happening on any phone my kid will get her hands on that is for sure.

We have a job here, as parents, to protect ourselves and our family. Anyone who disagrees is just a naive fool. And they need to know this - preferably in a way that motivates them to do something about it.

BTW similar things apply to anything Meta and most social media platforms. Like Whatsapp. Use a safe alternative, its simple and called Signal. Our data is a commodity and can be used to exercise control over us, we really need to get that imprinted in our brains. Data ownership belongs to the owner. You and me - and anyone we feel needs it.
And who own social ? Just exclude any CN, US or RU "social" compagny it will be easier
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#7
TheoneandonlyMrK
The Chinese government has access to any server within byte dances remit by law and without any oversight or audit.

That's enough for me to not bother.

Other social media might not be Much better, but they at least are Only working to commercial ends unlike the CCP.
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#8
R0H1T
TheoneandonlyMrKbut they at least are Only working to commercial ends unlike the CCP.
Needs citation! I'm no fan of CCP but we really don't know that much about others as Snowden showed.
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#9
TheoneandonlyMrK
R0H1TNeeds citation! I'm no fan of CCP but we really don't know that much about others as Snowden showed.
Fair enough I don't have direct evidence of either tbf and except your correction, my opinion is such then, though I limit my use of any tbf as I would suggest others do too.
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#10
bonehead123
TheoneandonlyMrKIs it a choice?!

Or no choice thing?!
As the song says....."If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice" - Freewill- from Rush's Permanent Waves album
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#11
MarsM4N
"Chips otimized for hosting their videos". What does that even mean? :confused: What makes their special chips so different?

Have to say, I am not a TikTok user. Not into 15sec short clips of attention wh**ing narcissists. Watch this nonsense for 5min & your brain runs liquified out of your ears.
This is really one of the main reasons of kids getting dumber & dumber from day to day. We clearly entered the century of Idiocracy.


TikTok's Wikipedia page is just wild. :eek: Here's the best of, but you should check out the whole thing.

TikTok, known in China as Douyin (Chinese: 抖音; pinyin: Dǒuyīn), is a short-form video hosting service owned by Chinese company ByteDance. TikTok and Douyin have almost the same user interface but no access to each other's content. Their servers are each based in the market where the respective app is available. The two products are similar, but features are not identical. Douyin includes an in-video search feature that can search by people's faces for more videos of them and other features such as buying, booking hotels and making geo-tagged reviews.

User privacy concerns
Privacy concerns have also been brought up regarding the app. In its privacy policy, TikTok lists that it collects usage information, IP addresses, a user's mobile carrier, unique device identifiers, keystroke patterns, and location data, among other data. Web developers Talal Haj Bakry and Tommy Mysk said that allowing videos and other content being shared by the app's users through HTTP puts the users' data privacy at risk.

In January 2020, Check Point Research discovered a security flaw in TikTok which could have allowed hackers access to user accounts using SMS. In February, Reddit CEO Steve Huffman criticised the app, calling it "spyware," and stating "I look at that app as so fundamentally parasitic, that it's always listening, the fingerprinting technology they use is truly terrifying, and I could not bring myself to install an app like that on my phone." Responding to Huffman's comments, TikTok stated, "These are baseless accusations made without a shred of evidence." Wells Fargo banned the app from its devices due to privacy and security concerns.

In August 2020, The Wall Street Journal reported that TikTok tracked Android user data, including MAC addresses and IMEIs, with a tactic in violation of Google's policies. The report sparked calls in the U.S. Senate for the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to launch an investigation.

In June 2021, TikTok updated its privacy policy to include collection of biometric data, including "faceprints and voiceprints." Some experts reacted by calling the terms of collection and data use "vague" and "highly problematic." The same month, CNBC reported that former employees had stated that "the boundaries between TikTok and ByteDance were so blurry as to be almost non-existent" and that "ByteDance employees are able to access U.S. user data" on TikTok."

Addiction concerns

There are concerns that some users may find it hard to stop using TikTok. In April 2018, an addiction-reduction feature was added to Douyin. This encouraged users to take a break every 90 minutes. Later in 2018, the feature was rolled out to the TikTok app. TikTok uses some top influencers such as Gabe Erwin, Alan Chikin Chow, James Henry, and Cosette Rinab to encourage viewers to stop using the app and take a break.

Many were also concerned with the app affecting users' attention spans due to the short form nature of the content. This is a concern as many of TikTok's audience are younger children, whose brains are still developing.[180] TikTok executives & representatives have noted and made aware to advertisers on the platform that users have poor attention spans. With the large amount of video content, nearly 50% of users find it stressful to watch a video longer than a minute and a third of users watch videos at double speed.

Content concerns
Concerns have been voiced regarding content relating to, and the promotion and spreading of, hateful words and far-right extremism, such as anti-semitism, racism, and xenophobia. Some videos were shown to expressly deny the existence of the Holocaust and told viewers to take up arms and fight in the name of white supremacy and the swastika.

The Wall Street Journal has reported that doctors experienced a surge in reported cases of tics, tied to an increasing number of TikTok videos from content creators with Tourette syndrome. Doctors suggested that the cause may be a social one as users who consumed content showcasing various tics would sometimes develop tics of their own.

Content censorship and moderation by the platform
TikTok's censorship policy has been criticized as non-transparent. Criticism of leaders such as Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump, Barack Obama, Mahatma Gandhi and Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has been suppressed by the platform, as well as information relating to the Xinjiang internment camps and the abuse of Uyghurs in the region. Internal documents have revealed that moderators suppress posts created by users deemed "too ugly, poor, or disabled" for the platform, and censor political speech in livestreams. TikTok moderators have also blocked content that could be perceived as being positive towards LGBT people.

2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine
In response to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, TikTok banned new Russian posts and livestreams. However a study by Tracking Exposed found out that TikTok had blocked all non-Russian content, but has continued to host old videos uploaded by Russia-based accounts and permitted Russian state media to continue posting, described as establishing a “splinternet” within a global social media platform. TikTok's vague censorship has permitted pro-Kremlin news but blocked foreign accounts and critics of the war, as a result "Russians are left with a frozen TikTok, dominated by pro-war content".
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#12
bonehead123
MarsM4N"Chips otimized for hosting their videos". What does that even mean?
This just means that they will be able to track & control who sees their videos, when they see them, how many times they see them, who else was in the room when they watched them, what they were eating/drinking/doing etc etc.... you know, like, typical PRC stuff :D

But I totally agree with the dumb & dumberer sentiment !

Just this morning I watched in horror as my tweeny-bot waitress spazzed out after the cash register's screensaver kicked in before she could comprehend how much change to give me....
I was like "my check is $12.53 and I gave you a $20, so my change is"........

But by then, she was becoming so unhinged, I had to actually tell her it should be $7.47...

THEN she had the balls to ask me how I figured that out without a calculator or seeing it on the register screen....

My reply was that I when I went to elementary school, they actually taught us how to do basic math in our heads, and she just gave me the "deer in the headlights" expression, like, wow, imagine that :D
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#13
R0H1T
I used to do minor exponents without a calculator & admittedly without a (scientific) calculator these days it's nigh impossible! When you become addicted/slave to a given piece of tech it's hard to live without it.
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#14
TheoneandonlyMrK
bonehead123As the song says....."If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice" - Freewill- from Rush's Permanent Waves album
I meant a choice to build they're own chip's, or have sanctions decided they're making they're own chip's?!.

As for your reply I have chosen, no thanks, stick tiktok, where the sun doesn't shine.
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#15
ThrashZone
TheoneandonlyMrKI meant a choice to build they're own chip's, or have sanctions decided they're making they're own chip's?!.

As for your reply I have chosen, no thanks, stick tiktok, where the sun doesn't shine.
Hi,
Some masterful phub gals do that :laugh:
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#16
Bones
ThrashZoneHi,
Some masterful phub gals do that :laugh:
Does that mean they go tic-tok like a clock when they walk backwards instead of just beeping?
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#17
R-T-B
TheoneandonlyMrKIs it a choice?!

Or no choice thing?!
No choice. We expect you to deliver cpu tomorrow or family may go missing. Thanks.
R0H1TI used to do minor exponents without a calculator & admittedly without a (scientific) calculator these days it's nigh impossible! When you become addicted/slave to a given piece of tech it's hard to live without it.
I actually do very advanced math (n-body equations) on a daily basis for a mod project of mine and truth be told, without a calculator all hell would break lose.

Fortunately the odds of you not having one today are sort of akin to you saying "oh, and what about if all the water dries up? What then lame duck?"
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#18
Bomby569
I don't do social media, but tiktok or China isn't any better or worst then any social media from the US in data collection, it's been proven time and time again, there is no worst than the US and NSA and such.

And if someone wanted to collect my data i would prefer China to do it, i honestly couldn't care less what they have or do with it, there is no meaningful way for them to use it. And i know they won't share it with my government or any western government that then shares it with my government.

And for what i know about tiktok the kind of data they can have is much less relevant then facebook or google for example, they own you if you use their services.

That said don't do social media and problem solved.
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#19
TheoneandonlyMrK
Bomby569I don't do social media, but tiktok or China isn't any better or worst then any social media from the US in data collection, it's been proven time and time again, there is no worst than the US and NSA and such.

And if someone wanted to collect my data i would prefer China to do it, i honestly couldn't care less what they have or do with it, there is no meaningful way for them to use it. And i know they won't share it with my government or any western government that then shares it with my government.

And for what i know about tiktok the kind of data they can have is much less relevant then facebook or google for example, they own you if you use their services.

That said don't do social media and problem solved.
Tik toks banned In China, that too say's it all compared to FB etc.
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#20
Bomby569
TheoneandonlyMrKTik toks banned In China, that too say's it all compared to FB etc.
i admit my knowledge of TT isn't much, but for the way it is designed the kind of data they have on you is much less relevant then what FB or GOOG have.

TT is not banned in China, what are you talking about?
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#21
MarsM4N
TheoneandonlyMrKTik toks banned In China, that too say's it all compared to FB etc.
TikTok is banned in China not out of safety concerns, but to shield them from bad western "propaganda". ;) They get a equivalent for TikTok, like for so many other things with "bad influence".

Still the most funny, the crackdown on gamers: China bans kids from playing online video games during the week
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#23
TheoneandonlyMrK
MarsM4NTikTok is banned in China not out of safety concerns, but to shield them from bad western "propaganda". ;) They get a equivalent for TikTok, like for so many other things with "bad influence".

Still the most funny, the crackdown on gamers: China bans kids from playing online video games during the week
I know that, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
They ( the Chinese propaganda army) still release Propaganda on it even with the ban in place.
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#24
SOAREVERSOR
R0H1TI used to do minor exponents without a calculator & admittedly without a (scientific) calculator these days it's nigh impossible! When you become addicted/slave to a given piece of tech it's hard to live without it.
My dad used to work for the aerospace industry back when they used slide rules and all the calculators were these hardcore reverse polish notation things that weren't that advanced. People did used to do all sorts of things by hand.
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#25
Vayra86
JeagerAnd who own social ? Just exclude any CN, US or RU "social" compagny it will be easier
I do stay clear of social media in general. Signal though is not social media, its communication - peer to peer and data is kept locally. A much better principle.

The point is, what applications guarantee your data ownership? Use those where you have the choice. Avoid any others. If you can't control it, you don't own it, and you're ready to be manipulated. That goes for purchases of products too versus memberships of services. The latter might be cheaper, but you have nothing, only access to a service (subject to change) with an expiry date and no rights.
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