Monday, May 22nd 2023

China Goes Ahead with Micron Technology Sales Ban

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btarunr
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The Chinese Government over the weekend announced restrictions on sales of Micron Technology memory products to Chinese government agencies and infrastructure operators, including the country's telecommunications network infrastructure and data-center service providers. The country's cyberspace regulator conducted a cybersecurity review of Micron Technology products and found that they fail a "network security review."

"The review found that Micron's products have serious network security risks, which pose significant security risks to China's critical information infrastructure supply chain, affecting China's national security," the Cyberspace Administration of China (CAC) said in a statement to Reuters. This move by China is seen as a geopolitical retaliation to the U.S. Government restricting the sales of memory products by YMTC to American PC and ICT companies, a decision that caused the Chinese memory maker to lose major customers such as Apple. This is, however, a partial ban on the Idaho-based memory maker, since China hasn't yet restricted Chinese PC and ICT companies from sourcing Micron Technology products the way Washington banned YMTC.
Source: Reuters

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33 Comments on China Goes Ahead with Micron Technology Sales Ban

#1
Crackong
restrictions on sales of Micron Technology memory products
I have to wonder if this is 【Direct sales from Micron only 】or【If Micron chips is used inside a product】?
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#2
Space Lynx
Astronaut
i have a micron 2tb ssd, how the fuck is it a security risk. lmao
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#3
mb194dc
Trade war is going well I see. This and those powerleader Intel CPU copies.

Why can't we all just get along ?
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#4
TheLostSwede
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mb194dcTrade war is going well I see. This and those powerleader Intel CPU copies.

Why can't we all just get along ?
Because all of the really big nations are trying to bully everyone else?
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#5
R0H1T
Because someone (always) wants to get richer than someone else!
mb194dcTrade war is going well I see. This and those powerleader Intel CPU copies.

Why can't we all just get along ?
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#6
Dr. Dro
TheLostSwedeBecause all of the really big nations are trying to bully everyone else?
I've grown so weary, so tired of it all. There's no respect, no friendship and no order between the peoples of this world anymore. I fear for where mankind - and the world is headed.
Space Lynxi have a micron 2tb ssd, how the fuck is it a security risk. lmao
It's not. I'll keep it brief, simply see it for what it is; it's a shakedown.
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#7
Chaitanya
CrackongI have to wonder if this is 【Direct sales from Micron only 】or【If Micron chips is used inside a product】?
Dont forget about Spectek as well.
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#8
Bomby569
just as BS as the US version of this crap
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#9
Luisds
Space Lynxi have a micron 2tb ssd, how the fuck is it a security risk. lmao
is it a security risk for YMTC
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#11
tpa-pr
Dr. DroI've grown so weary, so tired of it all. There's no respect, no friendship and no order between the peoples of this world anymore. I fear for where mankind - and the world is headed.



It's not. I'll keep it brief, simply see it for what it is; it's a shakedown.
The world has survived worse before and it will survive this too. Best to keep things in perspective and not let things of a grand scale get to you. If you and yours can carve out a healthy and happy niche, that's all that matters. Help where you can but don't let it weigh you down. You only get one go at this.

Anyway, I have a feeling that a lot of the larger nations are going to start building more technology in house and cracking down on imports. I suspect the Russian invasion of Ukraine especially made people nervous about the stability of technology access. Globalized trade is a good idea in theory right up until you have the bad eggs in charge who go beyond saber rattling. If China don't want Micron's technology i'm sure there are other nations that will buy it.
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#12
Shihab
btarunr"The review found that Micron's products have serious network security risks, which pose significant security risks to China's critical information infrastructure supply chain, affecting China's national security,"
I see China has moved on from copying industries to copying pretexts. Lol!
Luisdsis it a security risk for YMTC
Who claimed it to be?
Dr. DroI've grown so weary, so tired of it all. There's no respect, no friendship and no order between the peoples of this world anymore. I fear for where mankind - and the world is headed.
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#13
Wirko
International trade won't just stop, it's still expressed in figures incomprehensible to a common person. China's foreign trade (exports+imports) amounts to USD 500 billion monthly, or 60 dollars per earthling.
tradingeconomics.com/china/balance-of-trade
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#14
tpa-pr
WirkoInternational trade won't just stop, it's still expressed in figures incomprehensible to a common person. China's foreign trade (exports+imports) amounts to USD 500 billion monthly, or 60 dollars per earthling.
tradingeconomics.com/china/balance-of-trade
There we go. I suspect it might reduce a bit but as you say, it won't completely stop. I don't most first-world economies would even be capable of stopping international trade anymore, which i've had explained to me as being by design. It's harder to go to war with paying customers and suppliers after all.
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#15
Wirko
tpa-prThere we go. I suspect it might reduce a bit but as you say, it won't completely stop. I don't most first-world economies would even be capable of stopping international trade anymore, which i've had explained to me as being by design. It's harder to go to war with paying customers and suppliers after all.
Yes, and even if a war is already raging, the mutual desire to trade (if and where it exists) is a major factor that helps to bring it to an end.
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#16
kondamin
What does that mean for the xian fab?
will he cia make an accident happen or something
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#17
Bomby569
I'm just sorry Europe doesn't invest more in some specific important sectors like this. We would be ride of these idiots on the 2 sides of the Pacific. I doubt this is true it but i wouldn't put past either of them to have NSA and whatever the chinese version of the American spying conglomerate is in their products.
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#18
MarsM4N
Peanuts. :laugh: If they would also ban them for consumer procucts, that would be a different story. But that would also be like shooting in their own leg. Manufacturers would just switch production to India or any other low wage country. Aces still in the hands of Murica.
Bomby569I'm just sorry Europe doesn't invest more in some specific important sectors like this. We would be ride of these idiots on the 2 sides of the Pacific. I doubt this is true it but i wouldn't put past either of them to have NSA and whatever the chinese version of the American spying conglomerate is in their products.
Wanted to say "because it's too expensive". But that's actually not really the case. The EU is very "income diverse", quite some countries with lower or equal income than developed China. :) Guess the problem is that those poorer countries don't have the money to pull it off, other richer countries don't want to finance well paying jobs in other countries & of course then there is the massive buerocracy. Looking at my country, it takes around 6 years to "plant" a windmill. It's ridicules.
R0H1TBecause someone (always) wants to get richer than someone else!

Money is power. Power is influence. Influence shapes our world. ;) It's about the greater good. Can't have dictators taking over our planet. Like who wants to live in it?
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#19
Bomby569
MarsM4NWanted to say "because it's too expensive". But that's actually not really the case. The EU is very "income diverse", quite some countries with lower or equal income than developed China. :) Guess the problem is that those poorer countries don't have the money to pull it off, other richer countries don't want to finance well paying jobs in other countries & of course then there is the massive buerocracy. Looking at my country, it takes around 6 years to "plant" a windmill. It's ridicules.
we could do like Airbus for example, it's a strategic sector, creates lots of jobs directly and indirectly, we could apply the same strategy, join a couple of countries together. The EU bureaucracy machines moves when it wants to
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#20
Bwaze
Bomby569we could do like Airbus for example, it's a strategic sector, creates lots of jobs directly and indirectly, we could apply the same strategy, join a couple of countries together. The EU bureaucracy machines moves when it wants to
And just like Airbus that merchant would be very vunerable to bans or tarrifs from other nations that would wanr to protect their industry. And EU is in some ways just pretending it's a common market.
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#21
Bomby569
BwazeAnd just like Airbus that merchant would be very vunerable to bans or tarrifs from other nations that would wanr to protect their industry. And EU is in some ways just pretending it's a common market.
bans and tarrifs are leveraged, you ban this i ban that, you tariff this i tariff that. If there is some equilibrium it's a stupid zero sum game. But i was mostly concerned with the EU market, as the topic is security.

The EU is a common market i have no idea what that sentence means.
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#22
TheinsanegamerN
Dr. DroI've grown so weary, so tired of it all. There's no respect, no friendship and no order between the peoples of this world anymore. I fear for where mankind - and the world is headed.
There never was, only the naive would believe otherwise. Anyone who has cracked open a history book knows this.
Space Lynxi have a micron 2tb ssd, how the fuck is it a security risk. lmao
Embedded microcontrollers with black box firmware that reach out over networks to spy on people.

this isnt even hard to figure out. Did everyone forget about this guy called Snowden? PRISM? Does nobody watch the streams from hacker conventions?

When you are opposing the US, anything made in the US is a security risk, if it connects to the internet.
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#23
AceKingSuited
Interesting. China is very deliberate in their counter offensives; they will only ban something they don't need or have an alternative to. I think it's possible the local companies can make a comparable product or they can get it from the Koreans. I wonder what will happened to the Micron facilities China. Sell it for peanuts or takeover by SMIC?

The trade war does nothing to them and will only hurt Micron and other US semiconductors while boosting the foreign companies. Nice work Congress!
TheinsanegamerNThere never was, only the naive would believe otherwise. Anyone who has cracked open a history book knows this.


Embedded microcontrollers with black box firmware that reach out over networks to spy on people.

this isnt even hard to figure out. Did everyone forget about this guy called Snowden? PRISM? Does nobody watch the streams from hacker conventions?

When you are opposing the US, anything made in the US is a security risk, if it connects to the internet.
Yup. There's no friendship in foreign policy, only interests. And interests will change over time.
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#24
Bomby569
AceKingSuitedor they can get it from the Koreans.
i'm not defending any of this in any way, but the US just has to say jump and the koreans ask how high. The US gov. would have more trouble convincing a Texan company to do what they want then a korean one.
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#25
Tahagomizer
I was born during the first Cold War, I wonder if the second one heats up enough to ultimately end my life. Probably not but it's a nice thought.
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