Wednesday, December 20th 2023
AMD to Support AM5 Platform with New Products Till 2025 and Beyond
AMD continues to release new Ryzen 5000 series processor models for the Socket AM4 platform to this day, with new processors expected to launch next month. That's over 6 years of longevity for the platform, considering that AMD has extended official Ryzen 5000 series support all the way back to its first line of AM4 motherboards based on the 300-series chipset. The company plans a similar longevity for Socket AM5. In an interview with Overclockers UK, AMD's client channel business head David McAfee said "I think that we certainly recognized that the longevity of the AM4 platforms was one of the biggest reasons that led to the success of Ryzen and as we think and as we think about the future, 2025 and beyond, that decision to move to a next-generation of socket is one that's going to be really thought through really really carefully. We know the impact that moving to a new socket brings and we want to stay on AM5 for as long as we possibly can. We are firmly committed to 2025 and beyond and we will see how long that promise lasts beyond 2025."
AMD Socket AM5 is designed to deliver up to 230 W of package power, and has a contemporary I/O that includes a dual-channel DDR5 memory interface (4x 40-bit sub-channels); and 28 PCIe Gen 5 lanes (x16 PEG, two x4 NVMe, and x4 chipset bus), besides the usual SoC connectivity. With the upcoming Ryzen 8000G "Phoenix" APUs, we could expect to see that the socket even wires out modern display I/O such as DisplayPort 2.1 with USB type-C, and the bandwidth for 12-bit HDR up to 68 billion colors. AMD debuted Socket AM5 with the "Zen 4" microarchitecture, with "Zen 5" expected to launch in 2024. It's conceivable that the company's 2025 client architecture, "Zen 6," could also see its desktop presence on AM5, given that DDR5 memory and PCIe Gen 5 will remain relevant till at least that time.
Sources:
Overclockers UK (YouTube), Wccftech
AMD Socket AM5 is designed to deliver up to 230 W of package power, and has a contemporary I/O that includes a dual-channel DDR5 memory interface (4x 40-bit sub-channels); and 28 PCIe Gen 5 lanes (x16 PEG, two x4 NVMe, and x4 chipset bus), besides the usual SoC connectivity. With the upcoming Ryzen 8000G "Phoenix" APUs, we could expect to see that the socket even wires out modern display I/O such as DisplayPort 2.1 with USB type-C, and the bandwidth for 12-bit HDR up to 68 billion colors. AMD debuted Socket AM5 with the "Zen 4" microarchitecture, with "Zen 5" expected to launch in 2024. It's conceivable that the company's 2025 client architecture, "Zen 6," could also see its desktop presence on AM5, given that DDR5 memory and PCIe Gen 5 will remain relevant till at least that time.
118 Comments on AMD to Support AM5 Platform with New Products Till 2025 and Beyond
What catches my fancy are AM5 2nd generation 'chipsets' implied to be coming sometime soon.
Why are they (8000X's & 8000G's) not all considered APU's?
Why aren't 8000G's called Ultra APU's? (seems like a missed marketing opportunity by AMD)
Memes aside pretty good news. 7000 series despite its hiccups has been pretty good but I imagine a lot of people will go for the 8000 series when that releases. Though AM4 despite being older is probably going to be relevant for the next 5-10 years for a lot of people. Though we will see how good DDR4 RAM and PCIe 4.0 (and 3.0) will be in the future. Though I'm not sure how they will put a rumored Zen 6 architecture into a CPU chip without losing backwards compatibility for older motherboards. Only time will tell though as this is just thinking ahead and speculating future problems.
To be 1:1 feature-competitive with Intel for "normie" and OEM customers
The AM5 "APUs" OTOH, are high(er)-TDP variants of the most-recent Mobile APUs.
Most-recent consumer-faced silicon, with respectably powerful integral GPUs.
IIRC, the 8700G should have somewhere around RX470-RX6400 level performance (assuming optimal RAM config) on RDNA3 uArch.
www.eizo.com/products/coloredge/
I suppose it might be legitimately useful for a media editors-designer or artists.
But, seems its talking about bandwidth capability and compatibility, on the coming APUs (and future displays)
I believe Zen 5 is going to be a show stopper with performance, reading like 20% IPC gains yet again. This is huge actually. I anticipate the future!!
AMD's unlikely do do DDR5+6 kinda like ADL with Intel.
Really AMD"s comments on BIOS size constraints and customer's push for extended CPU support were both valid.