Tuesday, November 26th 2024

Microsoft Office Tools Reportedly Collect Data for AI Training, Requiring Manual Opt-Out

Microsoft's Office suite is the staple in productivity tools, with millions of users entering sensitive personal and company data into Excel and Word. According to @nixCraft, an author from Cyberciti.biz, Microsoft left its "Connected Experiences" feature enabled by default, reportedly using user-generated content to train the company's AI models. This feature is enabled by default, meaning data from Word and Excel files may be used in AI development unless users manually opt-out. As a default option, this setting raises security concerns, especially from businesses and government workers relying on Microsoft Office for proprietary work. The feature allows documents such as articles, government data, and other confidential files to be included in AI training, creating ethical and legal challenges regarding consent and intellectual property.

Disabling the feature requires going to: File > Options > Trust Center > Trust Center Settings > Privacy Options > Privacy Settings > Optional Connected Experiences, and unchecking the box. Even with an unnecessary long opt-out steps, the European Union's GPDR agreement, which Microsoft complies with, requires all settings to be opt-in rather than opt-out by default. This directly contradicts EU GDPR laws, which could prompt an investigation from the EU. Microsoft has yet to confirm whether user content is actively being used to train its AI models. However, its Services Agreement includes a clause granting the company a "worldwide and royalty-free intellectual property license" to use user-generated content for purposes such as improving Microsoft products. The controversy raised from this is not new, especially where more companies leverage user data for AI development, often without explicit consent.
For the current LLM AI models, the data on which they are being trained is the key to distinguishing them from competitors. Quality data is the prize, and when a unique dataset like the one Microsoft has access to is collected, that AI model could outperform the competition by a mile in tasks like writing and basic reasoning. Especially with sensitive data not available to the public, Microsoft could extend its AI lead. However, LLMs are not immune to leaking a part of their training data, so a skilled professional could extract it. For now, users who wish to protect their intellectual property are advised to review their settings carefully.

Update Nov 26th 08:00 UTC: Microsoft reached out to us via email and confirmed:
Statement from MicrosoftMicrosoft does not use customer data from Microsoft 365 consumer and commercial applications to train large language models. Additionally, the Connected Services setting has no connection to how Microsoft trains large language models.
Connected Experiences allows users to search and download online content to enhance their documents. This includes templates, images, 3D models, videos, and reference materials. Examples include Microsoft Office templates and PowerPoint QuickStarter presentations. Microsoft has also provided a table of what Connected Experiences downloads, which you can see below:
Source: via Tom's Hardware
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56 Comments on Microsoft Office Tools Reportedly Collect Data for AI Training, Requiring Manual Opt-Out

#26
lexluthermiester
Dr. Dro

Can't wait for Microsoft to start training their AI on confidential documents and have their LLMs drop a few government secrets or two. Then Microsoft and their lawyers will learn the true weight of an EULA.

I won't be renewing my Microsoft 365 subscription once it elapses in January. Might just pay for Apple One instead. Or better yet - a year of Proton Unlimited, way things are going, looks like a solid VPN will be a must for the distinguished netizen in 2025.
This! All. Day. Long. Been using it since it launched and have NEVER looked back to msoffice. Oh yeah!
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#27
Dr. Dro
WirkoLooks like I've found just the right retro thread to ask, and maybe not be ridiculed...

How the hell do I transplant Outlook Express from Windows XP to Windows 7, 10 and 11?
You don't, if I remember correctly, Outlook Express relies on Internet Explorer 6 and a lot of the old OLE/ActiveX lot being present. You're not running it on anything later than XP/2003 R2. Last I remember there was a modern reboot project of this called OE Classic, but it doesn't seem to be open source and the free version comes with certain limitations. Not sure if it's even still around, it's been a very long time since I heard about it.
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#28
Darmok N Jalad
Vayra86Its a strange world we've landed in when Word doesn't work anymore because no internet.

Wtf
Why not? New Outlook does just that. Just today, I had an email that I was trying to view, but it refused to load, despite being in my inbox. After all, MS doesn’t want you to store local-only files. The cloud is the “safe place” for all your work, and you know, if they happen to use your content to train AI models, it’s all for the best, right? Right?
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#29
windwhirl
WirkoLooks like I've found just the right retro thread to ask, and maybe not be ridiculed...

How the hell do I transplant Outlook Express from Windows XP to Windows 7, 10 and 11?
Don't even bother. If you still have a machine with Outlook Express that somehow can still connect to a mail server, probably best to migrate it to current era Outlook or Thunderbird.

If you can get a hold of an old version of Outlook (up to Office 2010) or Thunderbird (up to version 52) that has an importer for Outlook Express

Or... run a virtual machine just for Outlook Express, if you really can't stand the crappy webmail UXs or any current local email program. :pimp:
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#30
lexluthermiester
Darmok N JaladWhy not? New Outlook does just that. Just today, I had an email that I was trying to view, but it refused to load, despite being in my inbox. After all, MS doesn’t want you to store local-only files. The cloud is the “safe place” for all your work, and you know, if they happen to use your content to train AI models, it’s all for the best, right? Right?
Thunderbird. Give it a try. I converted over, never looked back.
www.thunderbird.net/
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#31
Darmok N Jalad
lexluthermiesterThunderbird. Give it a try. I converted over, never looked back.
www.thunderbird.net/
My IT department would probably say no. :D

I wouldn’t touch new outlook at home with a 20 meter science pole.
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#32
lexluthermiester
Darmok N JaladMy IT department would probably say no. :D
Ah, fair enough.
Darmok N JaladI wouldn’t touch new outlook at home with a 20 meter science pole.
Pig pole perhaps? LOL!
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#33
umeng2002
lol

I've been using LibreOffice for years now.
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#34
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
How did people think M$ was training their AI?
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#35
AsRock
TPU addict
For now, users who wish to protect their intellectual property are advised to review their settings carefully.
Better just not use it if you have the option, don't trust these so called off buttons.
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#36
solarmystic
eidairaman1Office 2007 ftw
eidairaman1Y2k happened with cloudstrike.


I loved 97, 2000 was good as well. 2007 is the beginning of the doc(x) format compatibility, that is why i use it, nothing newer
17 years later and Office 2007 continues to be my jam due to the reasons stated by these fine posters above me. Heck if it weren't for the need for .docx and .xlsx support i'd have remained on 2003 to this day.
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#37
Darmok N Jalad
I still have copies of Office 2000 and Office XP. I bought the former at college for something like $20 with the student discount. I barely needed Office for my degree back then, but how could I pass that kind of deal up?
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#38
Chaitanya
Darmok N JaladI still have copies of Office 2000 and Office XP. I bought the former at college for something like $20 with the student discount. I barely needed Office for my degree back then, but how could I pass that kind of deal up?
Had purchased Win 7, Office and Lightroom 6 on my friends student ID for those prices. Definitely worth the asking price. Just waiting for the straw that breaks the camels back with this subscription, and ai BS on both consumers and government end. Its going to end badly for these companies.
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#39
TheinsanegamerN
kapone32Unfortunately my Company has fully subscribed to 365. Of course so they can spy on Individual work PCs but the trade off is lock outs,system outages and the best we have SAP cloud for SAP and you know how those 2 play with each other,....not.
I feel for ya. My workplace trialed it, and it went down for ten minutes in the middle of big upper level meetings. People couldnt get to anything and the look on their faces when told "well the new product is int he cloud, nothing we can do" was hilarious.

They went back to google docs, but they're still pushing for full cloud intune enrollment and AD, having not learned their lesson.
windwhirlThat's normal operation for Onedrive.
In my experience normal operation for onedrive is total disobedience and de synced folders.
TartarosSounds like a good time to jump ship to other alternatives. Incidentally, the key from my Office 2021 was revoked for some reason, and instead of looking for it in my docs, I just went to Libre Office. It has improved a lot since the last time I used it about 10 years ago. The same with the new Outlook, I don't like it's new layout and just went back to Thunderbird, which had to do an overhaul at some point but it's pretty nice.

I can't believe Microsoft is making the same kind of slimy mistakes that made them such a hated company 20 years ago.
There's really 0 reason for 99% of people to be using office. Google docs is free, with cloud backups and network administration. Libreoffice is free, standalone, with no spying or other nonsense. There are other options too. Paying hundreds of dollar s"because office" is one of the most boomer things I have to put up with.
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#40
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
solarmystic17 years later and Office 2007 continues to be my jam due to the reasons stated by these fine posters above me. Heck if it weren't for the need for .docx and .xlsx support i'd have remained on 2003 to this day.
I put it on w11 in 2021 due to 2003 lacking needed functions
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#41
Vayra86
Darmok N JaladWhy not? New Outlook does just that. Just today, I had an email that I was trying to view, but it refused to load, despite being in my inbox. After all, MS doesn’t want you to store local-only files. The cloud is the “safe place” for all your work, and you know, if they happen to use your content to train AI models, it’s all for the best, right? Right?
Yeah. I draw the line before reaching this shitty point lol. Its just...
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#42
Wirko
Easy RhinoHow did people think M$ was training their AI?
“On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.”

M$ has yet to take this lesson.
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#43
Draconis
TheinsanegamerNGoogle docs is free, with cloud backups and network administration
For a corporate how are they on the privacy angle? Some of the USAID Country Missions we deal with use it so I'm curious about any assurances Google provides.
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#44
TSiAhmat
Dr. Dro

Can't wait for Microsoft to start training their AI on confidential documents and have their LLMs drop a few government secrets or two. Then Microsoft and their lawyers will learn the true weight of an EULA.

I won't be renewing my Microsoft 365 subscription once it elapses in January. Might just pay for Apple One instead. Or better yet - a year of Proton Unlimited, way things are going, looks like a solid VPN will be a must for the distinguished netizen in 2025.
Tbh i forgor Libre office (and i was in the market for such a software because of my personal laptop)

Thanks Dr. Dro & Microsoft for the advertisement of Libre Office!
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#45
Wirko
mechtechThe best thing about this

File > Options > Trust Center > Trust Center Settings > Privacy Options > Privacy Settings > Optional Connected Experiences, and unchecking the box.

Is "trust center and trust center settings"

lol
When you see a mention of computer security and trusted computing, you first need to ask, whose security and who is supposed to trust whom?

Microsoft trusts the ecosystem they helped create. They trust that the end user (who pays for the computer, licenses and electricity and incidentally keeps that computer at their home/office) wont mess with it much. That's what it is.
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#46
Darmok N Jalad
ChaitanyaHad purchased Win 7, Office and Lightroom 6 on my friends student ID for those prices. Definitely worth the asking price. Just waiting for the straw that breaks the camels back with this subscription, and ai BS on both consumers and government end. Its going to end badly for these companies.
I also have LR6, but haven't used it in years. Never have adopted the subscribe model from Adobe or other software makers. I mean, Adobe really slapped its users in the face, especially since the free trial was all of 7 days and required payment information. Then later we hear news about how hard they made it to cancel that free trial. They have a long way to go before they get my money again.

I've never been on board with this "pay us indefinitely to get all the enhancements and improvements" concept. My experience with that is Office365 at work, where it often feels like MS rearranging the deck chairs. Maybe I didn't want the latest feature you put out, especially in its half-baked condition. SaaS takes away the ability to vote with your wallet without making a big sacrifice. Instead of just sticking to an older, proven version while waiting for the software vendor to prove their worth, you have to find a new alternative altogether. They include some cloud storage in their bundles for a few reasons. One, it's to get your data and get you hooked, but two, it's to make you think you're getting something of lasting value in your subscription.
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#47
WatchThe80s
Office 2019 this checkbox is not selected after install but it's there (i don't remember if i went into the settings to kill it when i installed it years ago).
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#48
TheinsanegamerN
DraconisFor a corporate how are they on the privacy angle? Some of the USAID Country Missions we deal with use it so I'm curious about any assurances Google provides.
This is their list of FAQs

support.google.com/a/answer/60762?hl=en

Claims they are compliant with ISO/IEC 27018:2014. For our org that's good enough for compliance.
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#49
Darmok N Jalad
Sometimes you just can’t beat the timing. Here were are taking about cloud woes, and just got an email from our IT group saying outages to Teams, Outlook and Sharepoint have been resolved. Sounds like MS deployed a bad update to their servers and it has been a slow revert. I really feel for any European business using MS services. Any rollout issues will hit them first due to the time differences. While they experience IT hell, MS is working on the issue before I'm out of bed. Sounds like some companies lost a full day of productive work.
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#50
jardows
Just checked my install. We are a large MS 365 client, and are constantly pushed the latest updates. I don't know if this is managed my our Microsoft team, but the box was unchecked, and I had never been in this setting before on this install. All this could just be a bunch of FUD. Considering most of the posters here are claiming to not have used recent MS Office for a decade or more, and not verifying if their latest version of Office 365 has this or not, I'm going with FUD.
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