Wednesday, August 5th 2026

Microsoft Is Quietly Deleting 32 GB RAM Recommendation for Windows 11

Microsoft is retroactively removing documentation from its website and materials that mention 32 GB of RAM as a recommendation for new PC builds or purchases. Instead, the company is now emphasizing 8 GB devices that are optimized to run Windows 11 smoothly, even with that RAM configuration. Thanks to Windows Latest, which spotted the changes, Microsoft's Windows Learning Center has been updated to remove mentions of the 32 GB RAM recommendation. Previously, Microsoft published a document suggesting that 16 GB is a baseline for a modern PC, describing it as a good "starting point." However, the company also used to recommend that gamers try to surpass this baseline, suggesting 32 GB as a "no worries" upgrade for gaming PCs.

At that time, this sparked significant controversy as gamers were vocal about Microsoft recommending more RAM when purchasing additional memory could cost as much as an entire PC, depending on the configuration. Amid a severe DRAM shortage, Microsoft faced pushback from gamers and quietly removed the mention of the 32 GB "no worries" recommendation. This also raised concerns about whether Microsoft would optimize the Windows 11 operating system to perform better on lower-spec PCs with less than 16 GB of RAM, such as the 8 GB PCs that Microsoft sells itself, like the Surface Pro 12 and Surface Laptop 13, both of which come with 8 GB base configurations.
We already know that the company is overhauling many components within its Windows 11 operating system. Microsoft has made substantial improvements in memory efficiency and latency to accelerate the modernization of Windows 11. It has reduced memory overhead across apps and components and has optimized WinUI 3 to make built-in apps use less memory. Microsoft also outlined its plans for future Windows 11 memory efficiency improvements, specifically stating that the Windows team will be working on "memory optimization for 8 GB and above." As a result, the company has removed recommendations and mentions of 32 GB RAM from its documents and websites to avoid additional pushback.
Source: Windows Latest
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56 Comments on Microsoft Is Quietly Deleting 32 GB RAM Recommendation for Windows 11

#1
ZoneDymo
its funny how much they realise they are participating in their own problems.
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#2
McSteel
Honestly, for productivity even 32 GB is getting to be a bit tight... I work in IT consultancy, and between various apps, per-client browser windows, and remote connections, it's not uncommon to see a browser tab crash due to lack of memory. Backlash or not, the RAM recommendation from MS was realistic, and the current state of "everything is just a glorified browser now" is unsustainable. Nobody writes software with running efficiency in mind anymore.
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#3
Tyler-98-W68
8GB? Sounds like a bad time. I have a ultra 5 226v laptop with 16gb of ram and it has less than 4gb free after a fresh boot. Couldn't imagine using win11 with 8gb.
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#4
FR3D1
Ninja Cat
AleksandarKInstead, the company is now emphasizing 8 GB devices that are optimized to run Windows 11 smoothly, even with that RAM configuration.
Is the new Surface which is sometimes "skimpy" in terms of specs selling so poorly that Microsoft is now trying to mislead laypeople with misinformation?

In my opinion, this is a case for consumer protection authorities.

Regards,
Fred.
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#5
_JP_
So many 'Yo Pagefile so big' jokes I can think of. :laugh:

I'm not even gonna rant. This is sad because they can erase literature all they want, matter of the fact is, you can boot and use Windows 11 with 8GB of RAM... so as long as you don't use OneDrive, Windows Defender or Security, Teams or Edge. Then you'll realize really fast that an upgrade is due aaaaand to what capacity? 32GB.
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#6
N3utro
Tyler-98-W688GB? Sounds like a bad time. I have a ultra 5 226v laptop with 16gb of ram and it has less than 4gb free after a fresh boot. Couldn't imagine using win11 with 8gb.
Your laptop has a problem then. This is after a fresh boot on my PC:

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#7
Bones
It's just they are finally having to address and fix some issues Windows has had all along like memory leaks, the OS hogging RAM resources, huge pagefile sizes and the like.
They certainly didn't want to do it but I guess the writing is finally on the wall with this.

It's either clean up the slop in your OS or lose users to an alternative like Linux and they know it.
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#8
ymdhis
So this is what they meant by making Windows 11 more memory efficient: updating the documentation to say so.
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#9
mb194dc
Pure comedy tech hardware times we live in...
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#10
Prima.Vera
Now Google should do the same with the Chromium based browsers, which are the worst memory hogs in history. Even an empty tab just takes almost half of Gig of RAM.
This is ridiculous how bad those browsers are nowadays.
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#11
Athena
This clearly was the big OEMs (Dell, Acer and so on) begging MS to cut the requirements so that they don't have to price the PC so much to include that much RAM

MS caved and said fine
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#12
mikeymike
AleksandarKInstead, the company is now emphasizing 8 GB devices that are optimized to run Windows 11 smoothly, even with that RAM configuration.
It seems to me like the devil is in the details there (my emphasis, particularly on the word 'optimized'). On my ordinary installs of Win11 for most of my customers, I often see Win11 idling between say 4-6GB RAM usage (with stuff like the news widget uninstalled, edge set to not auto-start, onedrive uninstalled, both copilots uninstalled, etc), so while it's possible to run Win11 optimally for basic use on 8GB RAM, if current trends continue then the days are numbered of having 8GB RAM as a minimum requirement.

Meanwhile, Linux Mint on my PC happily idles at about 1.5GB RAM usage...
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#13
Darmok N Jalad
First it was “16GB is required to be a CoPilot+ PC,” then it was “32GB is comfortable,” now, it’s “8GB is good enough for a new Surface PC.” Where would we be if RAM was still cheap?
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#14
FanlessOC
MS can say what they want, we all know the truth. Perhaps they manage to shave off a GB of the Windows memory usage. You're still left with apps using multiple gigabytes of memory for a code editor or a browser. MS isn't going to change what Windows has become that easily.
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#15
Bigshrimp
Limits have been reached in my honest opinion with the current bloat infested Windows 11. If they lower the RAM requirements, it will lower the efficiency and effectiveness of the OS and how it manages memory in such tight constraints. It will absolutely affect things that wouldn't have been affected otherwise. This all seems like an attempt to save face more than anything truly technical or mind-blowing.
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#16
Hecate91
Interesting enough that they only care enough to fix things when we're in a rampocalypse and Microslop is starting to lose market share to Mac and Linux.
BigshrimpLimits have been reached in my honest opinion. If they lower the RAM requirements, it will lower the efficiency and effectiveness of the OS and how it manages memory in such tight constraints. It will absolutely affect things that wouldn't have been affected otherwise. This all seems like an attempt to save face more than anything truly technical or mind-blowing.
There is no reason for W11 to be eating 5-6GB on startup before a debloat while a Linux install will run on 2-3GB.
N3utroYour laptop has a problem then. This is after a fresh boot on my PC:

The problem is a unmodified W11 install will use more than 4GB on start up, becoming a problem for average users with 8GB ram.
Or the millions upon millions of office PC's with 8-16gb of ram which has been the bare minimum thanks to all of the bloat, memory leaks and webview2 code MS hasn't fixed.
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#17
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Are we still on this? They never recommended 32GB! Not the way you people think anyway.
Tyler-98-W688GB? Sounds like a bad time. I have a ultra 5 226v laptop with 16gb of ram and it has less than 4gb free after a fresh boot. Couldn't imagine using win11 with 8gb.
It uses the memory that is avaliable. If it didn't, what's the point of having more RAM at all?
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#18
PixelTech
What can they cut for bloat though? The bloat is what makes them some money right? Like auto starting Edge, OneDrive, CoPilot. If they get away from WXP/7 Control Panel tools they'll only make them less efficient.
Maybe cut down on the phoning home and your device being where other people get their Windows update from?
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#19
Bigshrimp
Hecate91There is no reason for W11 to be eating 5-6GB on startup before a debloat while a Linux install will run on 2-3GB.
I don't disagree. They will have to strip the bloat from the OS and that will take time and resources without any doubt.
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#20
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Darmok N JaladFirst it was “16GB is required to be a CoPilot+ PC,” then it was “32GB is comfortable,” now, it’s “8GB is good enough for a new Surface PC.” Where would we be if RAM was still cheap?
All of these things can be true at once.
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#21
TheinsanegamerN
FrickAre we still on this? They never recommended 32GB! Not the way you people think anyway.
So you claim the article is lying then?
FrickIt uses the memory that is avaliable. If it didn't, what's the point of having more RAM at all?
No? Just because you have more memory doesn't mean a program need to use more memory to function.

The point of having more memory is to be able to hold more, larger, programs that can do more. If the programs just balloon me.ory use without improving, then increased memory capacity is just pointless.
PixelTechWhat can they cut for bloat though? The bloat is what makes them some money right? Like auto starting Edge, OneDrive, CoPilot. If they get away from WXP/7 Control Panel tools they'll only make them less efficient.
Maybe cut down on the phoning home and your device being where other people get their Windows update from?
They need to go back to native apps. The new electron calendar app uses half a gig of RAM because it's a glorified web browser. The old C# calendar program ran on kilobytes of RAM.

This kind of contractor bloat is everywhere in 11.
BigshrimpLimits have been reached in my honest opinion. If they lower the RAM requirements, it will lower the efficiency and effectiveness of the OS and how it manages memory in such tight constraints. It will absolutely affect things that wouldn't have been affected otherwise. This all seems like an attempt to save face more than anything truly technical or mind-blowing.
Except every other OS on earth can manage with less memory then WinBlows.

Are you claiming that Linux or macOS are less efficient or effective as operating systems then windows?
N3utroYour laptop has a problem then. This is after a fresh boot on my PC:

You're not too familiar with corpobloat, are you?

Your PC is just bare windows. Go and add sentinel one, mandatory Microsoft teams login, management software, and so on.

Corporate machines with 8GB are just painful to use these days. Lord help you if you need to open a big Google sheet.
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#22
Hecate91
FrickAre we still on this? They never recommended 32GB! Not the way you people think anyway.

It uses the memory that is avaliable. If it didn't, what's the point of having more RAM at all?
According the OP, MS was recommending 16GB as a baseline for new PC's, and 32GB for gaming PC's.
And their own Surface PC's shipping with 8GB struggling to do anything must've been embarrassing enough, combined with losing a lot of sales to the Mac neo.
The OS using up all available memory on bloat, memory leaks, Copilot, OneDrive, then leaving nothing for applications to run is the issue. MS needs to ditch the webview2 layer being slapped over legacy applications to "modernize" them and go back to legacy code, including going back to the old control panel, and maybe let people customize the start menu and UI again.
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#23
Bigshrimp
TheinsanegamerNExcept every other OS on earth can manage with less memory then WinBlows.

Are you claiming that Linux or macOS are less efficient or effective as operating systems then windows?
No. I am not, lol. Jeez man... Have you considered the bloat in Windows 11? Why are we even arguing about something we already understand in detail and that you are also trying to assume that I don't know what I am talking about? Anyhow, I digress...

I edited my post so it won't confuse people that just want to argue with me over question-baiting nonsense.
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#24
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
TheinsanegamerNSo you claim the article is lying then?
Well yeah. Unless they write specifically what they deleted. But the "no worries mode" definitely didn't "recommend" 32GB. They called it "no worries". They didn't say "you'll want 32GB for Netflix, Excel and a browser". It was more "if you're a heavy user, 32GB is like a cool thing to have". Which is accurate, and many people, on this very forum, would say 32GB isn't enough.
TheinsanegamerNNo? Just because you have more memory doesn't mean a program need to use more memory to function.

The point of having more memory is to be able to hold more, larger, programs that can do more. If the programs just balloon me.ory use without improving, then increased memory capacity is just pointless.
I read on like a MS dev site a few years ago about this, but the Internet sucks now so I have no idea how to actually find it. But the gist of it was that it'll use what is there, because it'll improve the user experience. Prefetch is one aspect of that, but it's much better now than in the XP days. And as shown in the screenshot further up, that guy uses <4GB on boot. I'm probably hanging around 10GB, because I have a lot of stuff on autostart.

Don't get me wrong, there is a lot of bad things to say about Windows, but it's memory management is ok. People have been asking for a "debloated Windows" for literally decades, but that would defeat the very point of Windows.
Hecate91According the OP, MS was recommending 16GB as a baseline for new PC's, and 32GB for gaming PC's.
And their own Surface PC's shipping with 8GB struggling to do anything must've been embarrassing enough, combined with losing a lot of sales to the Mac neo.
The OS using up all available memory on bloat, memory leaks, Copilot, OneDrive, then leaving nothing for applications to run is the issue. MS needs to ditch the webview2 layer being slapped over legacy applications to "modernize" them and go back to legacy code, including going back to the old control panel, and maybe let people customize the start menu and UI again.
So do people on this forum. Before the RAM thing no one serious would suggest anything less than 32GB in a new system, unless you had an extremely tight budget. I have 8GB at work and it's ... fine. Even with Onedrive on.
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#25
ZoneDymo
Tyler-98-W688GB? Sounds like a bad time. I have a ultra 5 226v laptop with 16gb of ram and it has less than 4gb free after a fresh boot. Couldn't imagine using win11 with 8gb.
honestly....why do so few people on this website realize windows just reserves ram but does not actually use or need it, seriously, take out 8gb and see how it will all be fine 100%, just dont open 30 tabs on Chroma.

Remember that CoD extraction shooter? that game would reserve pretty much all of your systems ram, but it would not use it, if you opened up some programs while playing the game, it would just give that ram up again.
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