Wednesday, July 30th 2025

AMD to Rehash Ryzen 8000G Desktop APUs as 9000G Series: Rumor

It looks like AMD is refreshing its Ryzen 8000G desktop APUs as the newer Ryzen 9000G series, these chips will be powered by the older "Zen 4" microarchitecture, and not the latest "Zen 5," suggests a credible rumor on ChipHell. It was anticipated that the Ryzen 9000G series would be based on the 4 nm "Strix Point" monolithic silicon, or its updated variant, "Krackan Point." The chip features a dual-CCX CPU component with one CCX packing four "Zen 5" cores sharing 16 MB of L3 cache, and the second CCX featuring eight "Zen 5c" cores sharing an 8 MB L3 cache. The "Zen 5c" cores operate at lower average clock speeds than "Zen 5," and hence don't need large amounts of last-line cache. "Strix Point" also features a large RDNA 3.5 iGPU with 16 compute units, and most importantly, a powerful NPU with 50 AI TOPS, which meets Microsoft Copilot+ requirements. This is not going to be the case for the Ryzen 9000G, if the rumor is true.

If based on the older 4 nm "Hawk Point" silicon, the 9000G series will feature a single CCX CPU with eight full-size "Zen 4" cores sharing a 16 MB L3 cache; and an RDNA 3 based iGPU with 12 compute units, but unfortunately a much slower NPU with only 16 TOPS of throughput, which doesn't meet Copilot+ requirements. Perhaps the only things differentiating the 9000G series from the 8000G series are minor speed bumps, around 200 MHz increases in CPU clock speeds across the board, and a 100 MHz increase in iGPU engine clocks. All is not lost, as the non-socketed mobile Ryzen AI 300 "Strix Point" processor can be had in plenty of MoD (mobile-on-desktop) mini PCs, and we can see from recent product launches that PC OEMs are all over the Ryzen AI Max "Strix Halo" chip, putting it into prebuilt desktops.
Sources: VideoCardz, ChipHell Forums, HXL (Twitter)
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13 Comments on AMD to Rehash Ryzen 8000G Desktop APUs as 9000G Series: Rumor

#1
Cheeseball
Not a Potato
This sucks if the rumor is true. HX 370 on AM5 would be great to have as proven by the previous Phoenix/Hawk Point APUs as you can get pretty low total power consumption (not package power (TDP), that I can get 3W) with the 8700G, ~25W from the wall with DDR5-5600 JEDEC RAM on a simple B650 motherboard and you would be able to cap it to at most 80W if needed.
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#2
jc65859
Imo, it doesn't even matter if the CPU part is zen 4 or 5. What matters the most is that they will have no FSR4 support (at least not oficially).
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#3
Lionheart
If true, Gross AMD, stop rehashing shit especially with confusing nomenclature
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#4
InVasMani
RNDA3 on new APU is a piss design choice by AMD, but I'm guessing it's all because they've got a bunch of leftover castrated RDNA3 to empty out. I think the CPU core design structure looks pretty solid though with half the cores double the L2 cache double the cores half the L2 cache.

What are the PCIE lanes like on these APU's and boards? I'm curious how many PCIE 5.0 CPU wired lanes they have accessible. It's a pity the iGPU part is weaker than you'd like to see for a APU though. I do get it though the stronger APU chips are going to more lucrative market segments plus their probably trying to empty out a bunch of castrated RNDA3 chips still laying around.
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#5
Visible Noise
AMD is back to producing “Rebadgethon” APUs.
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#6
wickerman
It seems odd to not boost GPU specs on the new line of APUs and to also not have a low end gpu of your current generations. RX 6400 isnt awful by many standards but that’s still RDNA2 and 3 years old now. You’d expect to have either a good apu or a modern low end gpu, but I guess the non socketable chips make more sense right now.
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#7
john_
This is something that companies are doing for ages. This is a typical product's name change, so OEMs have a bigger number to advertise. OEM X for example was advertising 8600G until now, OEM X will be advertising 9600G when that model becomes available. ~95% of consumers wouldn't know or care this is a rebranded model. AMD is saving resources by selling the same product instead of building and/or testing a new one. Maybe we will see a real upgrade for the desktop next year. Who knows. They are losing an opportunity here, to push RDNA4 and FSR 4 or upgrade the NPU and start advertising AI desktops, but probably they put the numbers down and it was making more sense for them to keep selling the same products. At least let's hope they wouldn't find an opportunity here to increase pricing. Imagine 8600G and 9600G sitting next to each other in a shelve, be of course the same product and 9600G being 20% more expensive.
InVasManiWhat are the PCIE lanes like on these APU's and boards?
You don't buy an APU if you need the extra lanes. You also lose cache, meaning worst gaming performance. APUs are good for low powered, low heat, low noise mini PCs.
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#8
Nhonho
That's what a lack of competition does...

Before Ryzen, Intel did the same, releasing "more of the same" CPUs for almost 10 years.

It would be great if Nvidia acquired Intel. Nvidia would then be a formidable competitor to AMD, even in the console and portable SoC market. AMD would also stop releasing "more of the same" CPUs/APUs with new names, low cache memory, and outdated iGPUs.
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#9
Hecate91
I'm not sure this is a lack of any competition, Intel hasn't had anything on desktop to compete with an APU. These likely don't sell as well as other skus, although it's still disappointing as I would really like to see something with a more powerful rdna4 GPU on AM5.
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#10
A&P211
Visible NoiseAMD is back to producing “Rebadgethon” APUs.
Yea because Intel would never do that.
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#11
Visible Noise
A&P211Yea because Intel would never do that.
I’m sorry, did I misread this article? I thought it was about AMD.
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#12
coolclubth
It would be nice if the CPU could play Esports games at 1080p with High/Ultra settings.
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#13
Benedict ChenLi or Games4
coolclubthIt would be nice if the CPU could play Esports games at 1080p with High/Ultra settings.
Pretty sure all the 8000 series can 🫡🫶😂😍❤️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
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