Monday, April 7th 2008

New 3DMark06 World Record with Dual Radeon HD 3870 X2 Cards

Overclockers Kinc and Elmor from NordicHardware, have managed to break the 3DMark06 world record this weekend using two of ATI's latest dual GPU video cards. With Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 (C1 stepping) @ 5.719GHz (439.9x13), ASUS P5E64 WS Pro motherboard, 2x ASUS EAH3870X2 TOP overclocked to 990MHz/1125MHz core/memory and Windows Vista OS they were able to reach 32,601 3DMark. The cooling used for the CPU was liquid nitrogen (LN2) while both graphics cards were air cooled.

Source: NordicHardware
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84 Comments on New 3DMark06 World Record with Dual Radeon HD 3870 X2 Cards

#1
ShadowFold
I wonder why these crazy dudes with crazy ass cooling havent tried out two QX9770's and Quad-Fire?
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#2
Weer
Doesn't anyone else find this annoying?

Every week some crazy guy with thousands of dollars worth of LN2 manages to get 300 points more than the last and be crowned "The Champion E-Penis".. it's redundant and stupid. Especially due to the fact that with the HD-series, higher 3Dmark06 scores do NOT transfer into real-world gaming performance.
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#3
mdm-adph
Weer said:
Doesn't anyone else find this annoying?

Every week some crazy guy with thousands of dollars worth of LN2 manages to get 300 points more than the last and be crowned "The Champion E-Penis".. it's redundant and stupid. Especially due to the fact that with the HD-series, higher 3Dmark06 scores do NOT transfer into real-world gaming performance.
Yeah, those Nvidia-optimised games sure are a pain in the ass... ;)
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#4
EiAh
tomkaten said:
WTH does that score prove on a box that needs to be filled with LN every 5 seconds ? It's not like that's a functional PC, so that's just for bragging rights... Nothing to see here.
I agree.

I say they should build a rig that's actully useable (ran 10-15 hrs a day, for years on end)...then benchmark it.
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#5
erocker
Senior Moderator
That's not the point at all. It's about competition and having fun with your hobby. If you don't like it, don't do it. Can it be any more simple?
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#6
CrAsHnBuRnXp
erocker said:
That's not the point at all. It's about competition and having fun with your hobby. If you don't like it, don't do it. Can it be any more simple?
I guess it could be non-existent. :slap:

:p
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#7
erocker
Senior Moderator
Going by your logic, why have race cars, when we could all drive Corollas that "are useable"? Why have a pitcher in baseball when a machine could lob the ball to any shlub so everyone can hit the ball? I mean c'mon if you are annoyed by people setting records with computer hardware, you need better things to think about.
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asb2106
ShadowFold said:
I wonder why these crazy dudes with crazy ass cooling havent tried out two QX9770's and Quad-Fire?
by this you mean skulltrail?? two qx9775's with xfire or sli! I bet that could be the world record holder pretty easily! Could the skulltrail support 3 3870 x2s.
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#9
ShadowFold
asb2106 said:
by this you mean skulltrail?? two qx9775's with xfire or sli! I bet that could be the world record holder pretty easily! Could the skulltrail support 3 3870 x2s.
Yea :p yes skulltrail does SLi and Crossfire.
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#10
EiAh
erocker said:
That's not the point at all. It's about competition and having fun with your hobby. If you don't like it, don't do it. Can it be any more simple?
I read the title and I didn't realize that the computers were not normal PC's that most people run (not a standard OC, or cooling, or anything. No, please make it more complex :p

erocker said:
Going by your logic, why have race cars, when we could all drive Corollas that "are useable"? Why have a pitcher in baseball when a machine could lob the ball to any shlub so everyone can hit the ball? I mean c'mon if you are annoyed by people setting records with computer hardware, you need better things to think about.
Racing is a sport. So is baseball. These were out before computers even hit the market.
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#11
SK-1
tomkaten said:
WTH does that score prove on a box that needs to be filled with LN every 5 seconds ? It's not like that's a functional PC, so that's just for bragging rights... Nothing to see here.
The same thing that a 4.55 second drag car proves. That it is possible. You can't drive a drag car on the street either, but it proves what a particular manufacturer can do.
Lots to see here.
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#12
erocker
Senior Moderator
EiAh said:
I read the title and I didn't realize that the computers were not normal PC's that most people run (not a standard OC, or cooling, or anything. No, please make it more complex :p



Racing is a sport. So is baseball. These were out before computers even hit the market.
Overclocking is a sport. THERE! I said it!:p
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#13
EiAh
Well actully, y'all prove a point.

About impractical things. IE drag racing. haveing a 3 second car seems crazy. but hell, people do it. Same with OC'ing.
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#14
imperialreign
Seany1212 said:
would like to see them stick a water block on those cards and oc them, then see what they get out of them :D
they're saving that feat for when they need to break the record again, just like saving XP for another record break :laugh:


In any competition you don't throw all your aces in one shot :cool:


I'm impressed the two cards were air cooled. After seeing the thread title, I immediately assumed they'd be liquid cooled - the CPU on LN2 was a given, though.
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#15
CrAsHnBuRnXp
EiAh said:
I read the title and I didn't realize that the computers were not normal PC's that most people run (not a standard OC, or cooling, or anything. No, please make it more complex :p



Racing is a sport. So is baseball. These were out before computers even hit the market.
Thats not the point. Why bother advancing in technology at all if a Pentium processor with 128k RAM will suffice?

Why bother with cars when bikes will suffice?

Why bother using a computer to write a term paper when a pen and paper will suffice?

Why bother paying when you can steal?

Why do anything if there is an other alternative?

Computers for most are a hobby. When people bench those computers like the ones that set world records, odds are, they are a computer website and the hardware they bench are either A) donated or B) given to them to test then have to return. Just because someone has all the best hardware with LN2 does not necessarily mean that they are rich bastards.
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#16
DOM
ShadowFold said:
I wonder why these crazy dudes with crazy ass cooling havent tried out two QX9770's and Quad-Fire?
asb2106 said:
by this you mean skulltrail?? two qx9775's with xfire or sli! I bet that could be the world record holder pretty easily! Could the skulltrail support 3 3870 x2s.
I think cuz the 8 (2X4) cores are not supported by 3DM06 and To get the same OC with the CPU and MEM might not be the same cuz of the MEM
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#17
DaMulta
My stars went supernova
Weer said:
Doesn't anyone else find this annoying?

Every week some crazy guy with thousands of dollars worth of LN2 manages to get 300 points more than the last and be crowned "The Champion E-Penis".. it's redundant and stupid. Especially due to the fact that with the HD-series, higher 3Dmark06 scores do NOT transfer into real-world gaming performance.
It's not always about the gaming.....


http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=720489
I took 1st in GT cards at hwbot, and I'm proud to have that. Just like the guy in this news post I'm sure a smile is across his face today.

This took me a while to OC, far from being stable. Sure it's a little faster right now. I'll save that for if I need to post it if someone out does me by just a hair.


The point is gaming, benching, it's all the same a waste of money.


Why do we do it? IT'S BLOODY FUN!!!


:D
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#18
tomkaten
SK-1 said:
The same thing that a 4.55 second drag car proves. That it is possible. You can't drive a drag car on the street either, but it proves what a particular manufacturer can do.
Lots to see here.
I see all your analogies and I was kinda expecting these answers, but I don't think they apply in this particular case. Sure, you can't drive a dragster on the street, but at least it's driveable. Don't tell me that it explodes in 2 minutes.

Proof of concept is the Veyron. You can drive a Veyron, you can own a Veyron, the producer is losing money just to prove that it's possible to have such a car. But you can enjoy it, drive it... It brings you satisfaction... See my point ?

How can you enjoy or even use a box that you can't leave alone for 3 minutes ? It's like making a starship that flies at 15 000 miles/hour and can reach 30 000 miles for 2 seconds every year. Will that help me colonize the solar system faster ? Not really. Will I get top bragging rights and a poster on a billboard somewhere ? Definitely.

I, for one, still fail to see the point... No offense to anyone :)

LE. Oh and btw while I'm at it... IMO, innovation is necessary to make something worthy of being deemed "proof of concept". If I make the same starship that uses chemical engines every year and I keep bragging about every extra mile per hour I get out of improved fuels, I'm still not going to colonize the Universe any time soon. Bottom line is every dude out there with that hardware, two hands, a pair of gloves and some basic computer knowledge could have done that.

Let me know when they get a 200 000 score out of a quantum computer that requires no cooling... That's gonna make a serious impression on me :)
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#19
beyond_amusia
Weer said:
Doesn't anyone else find this annoying?

Every week some crazy guy with thousands of dollars worth of LN2 manages to get 300 points more than the last and be crowned "The Champion E-Penis".. it's redundant and stupid. Especially due to the fact that with the HD-series, higher 3Dmark06 scores do NOT transfer into real-world gaming performance.
No sh*t... I think that if they got THAT much $$$ to toss around they should be donating some of it to me. :laugh:
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#20
iLLz
Its NOT 24/7 stable...

tomkaten said:
WTH does that score prove on a box that needs to be filled with LN every 5 seconds ? It's not like that's a functional PC, so that's just for bragging rights... Nothing to see here.
Here Here! I hate this LN crap. The least they could do is benchmark these things at 24/7 operating conditions. Honestly, unless it is 24/7 stable I don't count it. I guess its all good for bragging rights, but geez its not like they can use that system like that but to benchmark.

Just my thoughts.

iLLz over and out.
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#21
ShadowFold
Like erocker said overclocking is sport. I think if you can get it that high long enough to run 3dmark, then its good enough. If you thinks its not fair then deal with it. These guys worked hard and put a ton of money into it and they deserve the world record.
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#22
asb2106
iLLz said:
Here Here! I hate this LN crap. The least they could do is benchmark these things at 24/7 operating conditions. Honestly, unless it is 24/7 stable I don't count it. I guess its all good for bragging rights, but geez its not like they can use that system like that but to benchmark.

Just my thoughts.

iLLz over and out.
and this is different from drag cars, and sprinters how??
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#23
imperialreign
tomkaten said:
I see all your analogies and I was kinda expecting these answers, but I don't think they apply in this particular case. Sure, you can't drive a dragster on the street, but at least it's driveable. Don't tell me that it explodes in 2 minutes.

Proof of concept is the Veyron. You can drive a Veyron, you can own a Veyron, the producer is losing money just to prove that it's possible to have such a car. But you can enjoy it, drive it... It brings you satisfaction... See my point ?

How can you enjoy or even use a box that you can't leave alone for 3 minutes ? It's like making a starship that flies at 15 000 miles/hour and can reach 30 000 miles for 2 seconds every year. Will that help me colonize the solar system faster ? Not really. Will I get top bragging rights and a poster on a billboard somewhere ? Definitely.

I, for one, still fail to see the point... No offense to anyone :)

LE. Oh and btw while I'm at it... IMO, innovation is necessary to make something worthy of being deemed "proof of concept". If I make the same starship that uses chemical engines every year and I keep bragging about every extra mile per hour I get out of improved fuels, I'm still not going to colonize the Universe any time soon. Bottom line is every dude out there with that hardware, two hands, a pair of gloves and some basic computer knowledge could have done that.

Let me know when they get a 200 000 score out of a quantum computer that requires no cooling... That's gonna make a serious impression on me :)
there's a difference between a 5 or 6 second drag car and a 4.5 second funny car - I think that's the one difference everyone has left out of that analogy so far. Sure, a drag car is driveable to an extent, maybe not on the street . . . but a funny car? No. It's designed, built and operated with one sole purpose - to go as fast as mechanically possible in a straight line for 1/4 of a mile. The fuel cells are so small they only hold just enough fuel for one run - the chasis is all tubing with carbon fiber panels. Hell, you can barely even turn the damn things . . .

super clocked record breakers like in the OP, IMO, are directly similar to a funny car (and I'm not taling about Pro Stock funny cars, either - top fuel, etc).
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#24
intel igent
imperialreign said:
there's a difference between a 5 or 6 second drag car and a 4.5 second funny car - I think that's the one difference everyone has left out of that analogy so far. Sure, a drag car is driveable to an extent, maybe not on the street . . . but a funny car? No. It's designed, built and operated with one sole purpose - to go as fast as mechanically possible in a straight line for 1/4 of a mile. The fuel cells are so small they only hold just enough fuel for one run - the chasis is all tubing with carbon fiber panels. Hell, you can barely even turn the damn things . . .

super clocked record breakers like in the OP, IMO, are directly similar to a funny car (and I'm not taling about Pro Stock funny cars, either - top fuel, etc).
John Force FTW!

:toast:
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#25
tkpenalty
imperialreign said:
there's a difference between a 5 or 6 second drag car and a 4.5 second funny car - I think that's the one difference everyone has left out of that analogy so far. Sure, a drag car is driveable to an extent, maybe not on the street . . . but a funny car? No. It's designed, built and operated with one sole purpose - to go as fast as mechanically possible in a straight line for 1/4 of a mile. The fuel cells are so small they only hold just enough fuel for one run - the chasis is all tubing with carbon fiber panels. Hell, you can barely even turn the damn things . . .

super clocked record breakers like in the OP, IMO, are directly similar to a funny car (and I'm not taling about Pro Stock funny cars, either - top fuel, etc).
I'd say ultra-clocked. But yeah good point. Its a comp ffs....
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