Thursday, January 28th 2010

Phenom II X6 Series Details Surface, Slated for May 2010

AMD's upcoming six-core desktop processor, codenamed "Thuban" is on course for a May 2010, suggests a report. The series is likely to receive the brand name Phenom II X6. There are four models planned for release within Q2, 2010. The Thuban core is AMD's desktop implementation of the Istanbul core, in the socket AM3 package, supporting dual-channel DDR3 memory. It is a monolithic multi-core design with six x86-64 cores, each with 128 KB of L1, 512 KB of L2 cache, and a 6 MB L3 cache shared between the six cores. Just as with K10 dual, triple, and quad core processors where AMD used a HyperTransport interface clock speed of 1800 MHz (3600 MT/s), or 2000 MHz (4000 MT/s), the new processor will take advantage of HyperTransport 3.x interface, with a HT speed of 2400 MHz (4800 MT/s). Thuban will be built on GlobalFoundaries' 45 nm node.

The table below lists out details of the four planned models. The model number of the top part isn't known. Most likely it is a Black Edition part, which comes with an unlocked BClk multiplier. It operates at 2.80 GHz, with a TDP of 140W. A step below is the Phenom II X6 1075T, which has an expected TDP of 125W, the 1055T is a notch below, and 1035T being the cheapest part. The exact clock speeds of the latter three models isn't known as yet. A month ahead of releasing these chips, AMD will announce the AMD 8-series chipset platform, led by 890FX (high-end, best for CrossFireX), 890GX (performance integrated graphics with CrossFire support). The AMD SB800 series southbridge chips will feature native support for SATA 6 Gb/s. Its on-die SATA controller gives out six SATA ports complete with RAID support. Some existing AM3 motherboards based on 7-series chipsets may also support Phenom II X6 with a BIOS update.


Source: OCWorkbench
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277 Comments on Phenom II X6 Series Details Surface, Slated for May 2010

#1
Wile E
Power User
osse said:
Just wonder how some can say that I7 or I5 is a faster gaming cpu.

There are 4 tests so far on gamersettings with radeon 5850, 5870 and 5890.

Well xbit lab i actually dont count as a valid test, becouse they paired x8 Crossfire, Am2+ motherbored with 2 gb DDR2 of ram vs i7 x16 crossfire and 6 gb DDR 3 ram.

http://www.legionhardware.com/
LegionHardware
I7 vs phii 965 both at 4 ghz and with radeon 5970

Phenom wins 5 of 9
Ties 1
I7 wins 3 of 9

http://www.guru3d.com/article/phenom-ii-x4-965-be-revision-c3-review-test/16

Guru3d - I7-940 vs phii 965 at stock with 5870.

Brother in Arms- På stock

i 1024x768 I7-940 beatsPHII 965 with 5 fps
i 1920x1080 PHII 965 beats I7-940 with 3 fps

Crysis warhead
i 1024x768 I7-940 beats PHII 965 with 6 fps
i 1920x1080 ties

Resident Evil
i 1024x768 I7-940 beats PHII 965 47 fps
i 1920x1080 I7-940 beats PHII 965 30 fps

Far Cry
i 1024x768 I7-940 beats PHII 965 with 25 fps
i 1920x1080 PHII 965 beats I7-940 with 5 fps

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=384&Itemid=63&limit=1&limitstart=7

I5-750 vs phII 965 - With radeon 5850

Devil May Cry 4 Benchmark

Benchmark Reviews uses the DirectX 10 test set at 1920x1200 resolution to test with 8x AA (highest common AA setting available between GeForce and Radeon video cards) and 16x AF. The benchmark runs through four different test scenes, but scenes #2 and #4 usually offer the most graphical challenge.
Sene 2
I5-750 - Loses with 4,8 fps
Sene 4
I5-750 – Loses with 4,4 fps

Far Cry 2 Benchmark

Benchmark Reviews used the maximum settings allowed for DirectX 10 tests, with the resolution set to 1920x1200. Performance settings were all set to 'Very High', Render Quality was set to 'Ultra High' overall quality, 8x anti-aliasing was applied, and HDR and Bloom were enabled.

I5-750 – Loses with 1,8 fps

Resident Evil 5 Tests
Benchmark Reviews uses the DirectX 10 version of the test at 1920x1200 resolution. Super-High quality settings are configured, with 8x MSAA post processing effects for maximum demand on the GPU. Test scenes from Area #3 and Area #4 require the most graphics processing power, and the results are collected for the chart illustrated below.
Area 3#
I5-750 – Loses with 1,6 fps
Area 4#
i5-750 – Loses with 3,7 fps


So yes if you want to play on low resulution and with eye candy off, i5 and i7 is superior, but can you see it ?, most lcd screens works on 60hz, witch meens 60fps.

But what happens when u turn eyecandy and resolution up.

As far as i can count of the 3 valid tests on gamersettigs

Phenom II 965 has 12 wins
Ties 2 times
Phenom II 965 looses 4 times

Well one time major, but this should tell u that in most games Phenom II is evry bit as good as i5 and i7, actually a littel better.

This also should tell evryone that is interested in hardware that testing on low res and with eyecandy off do not tell the truth wich cpu is a good gamercpu.
Yep, gaming is gpu limited. Now, how do they compare in cpu limited tasks?

If you are in the market for a 6 core cpu, I'm pretty sure gaming is not your primary concern at this point, otherwise you'd be looking at higher clocked parts with less cores.

How the Intel and AMD 6 cores compare in gaming means nothing, as both will already give you the same playability.
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Super XP
osse said:
Just wonder how some can say that I7 or I5 is a faster gaming cpu.

There are 4 tests so far on gamersettings with radeon 5850, 5870 and 5890.

Well xbit lab i actually dont count as a valid test, becouse they paired x8 Crossfire, Am2+ motherbored with 2 gb DDR2 of ram vs i7 x16 crossfire and 6 gb DDR 3 ram.

http://www.legionhardware.com/
LegionHardware
I7 vs phii 965 both at 4 ghz and with radeon 5970

Phenom wins 5 of 9
Ties 1
I7 wins 3 of 9

http://www.guru3d.com/article/phenom-ii-x4-965-be-revision-c3-review-test/16

Guru3d - I7-940 vs phii 965 at stock with 5870.

Brother in Arms- På stock

i 1024x768 I7-940 beatsPHII 965 with 5 fps
i 1920x1080 PHII 965 beats I7-940 with 3 fps

Crysis warhead
i 1024x768 I7-940 beats PHII 965 with 6 fps
i 1920x1080 ties

Resident Evil
i 1024x768 I7-940 beats PHII 965 47 fps
i 1920x1080 I7-940 beats PHII 965 30 fps

Far Cry
i 1024x768 I7-940 beats PHII 965 with 25 fps
i 1920x1080 PHII 965 beats I7-940 with 5 fps

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=384&Itemid=63&limit=1&limitstart=7

I5-750 vs phII 965 - With radeon 5850

Devil May Cry 4 Benchmark

Benchmark Reviews uses the DirectX 10 test set at 1920x1200 resolution to test with 8x AA (highest common AA setting available between GeForce and Radeon video cards) and 16x AF. The benchmark runs through four different test scenes, but scenes #2 and #4 usually offer the most graphical challenge.
Sene 2
I5-750 - Loses with 4,8 fps
Sene 4
I5-750 – Loses with 4,4 fps

Far Cry 2 Benchmark

Benchmark Reviews used the maximum settings allowed for DirectX 10 tests, with the resolution set to 1920x1200. Performance settings were all set to 'Very High', Render Quality was set to 'Ultra High' overall quality, 8x anti-aliasing was applied, and HDR and Bloom were enabled.

I5-750 – Loses with 1,8 fps

Resident Evil 5 Tests
Benchmark Reviews uses the DirectX 10 version of the test at 1920x1200 resolution. Super-High quality settings are configured, with 8x MSAA post processing effects for maximum demand on the GPU. Test scenes from Area #3 and Area #4 require the most graphics processing power, and the results are collected for the chart illustrated below.
Area 3#
I5-750 – Loses with 1,6 fps
Area 4#
i5-750 – Loses with 3,7 fps


So yes if you want to play on low resulution and with eye candy off, i5 and i7 is superior, but can you see it ?, most lcd screens works on 60hz, witch meens 60fps.

But what happens when u turn eyecandy and resolution up.

As far as i can count of the 3 valid tests on gamersettigs

Phenom II 965 has 12 wins
Ties 2 times
Phenom II 965 looses 4 times

Well one time major, but this should tell u that in most games Phenom II is evry bit as good as i5 and i7, actually a littel better.

This also should tell evryone that is interested in hardware that testing on low res and with eyecandy off do not tell the truth wich cpu is a good gamercpu.
I would have to agree w/ Wile E. If you are a gamer, then either "NEW" CPU will do just fine. Obviously you can't compare older Pentium 4's and Athlon XP/64's because they did in fact bottleneck the graphics card in some form or fashion.

If you want to compare CPU's for performance, then you need to use multi-threaded programs and video editing software that will use all those extra cores. Also software such as Photoshop etc. that will really determin how fast the CPU is.

Video Games is not a great way to determin how speedy your CPU is. In the time of "OLD" the graphics card did get bottlenecked by the CPU, but not anymore, that bottleneck does not exist anymore IMO with the newer CPU's.:D
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