Friday, March 19th 2010

GeForce GTX 400 Series Clock Speeds and Other Details Surface

Exactly a week ahead of releasing its GeForce GTX 400 series accelerators, NVIDIA held meetings with the press discussing the company's newest technologies, including GeForce GTX 400 series. Some lesser known details about the GeForce GTX 480 and GeForce GTX 470 surfaced, among more known and established ones. To begin with, the GeForce GTX 480 is confirmed to have a CUDA core (shader core) count of 480. The GF100 core operates at 700 MHz, its shader domain at 1401 MHz, and the memory operates at 924 MHz (actual, 1848 MHz DDR, 3700 MHz effective). With a GDDR5 memory bus width of 384-bit, the effective memory bandwidth would be 173.4 GB/s.

The GeForce GTX 470, on the other hand, has 448 CUDA cores, clock speeds of 607 MHz core, 1215 MHz shader domain, and 837 MHz memory (actual, 1674 MHz DDR, 3348 MHz effective). With a GDDR5 memory bus width of 320-bit, the effective memory bandwidth would be 130.7 GB/s. While the GTX 480 has a board power of 295W, the GTX 470 has a board power of 225W. Another piece of information the source reveals is that internal testing by NVIDIA showed that the performance level to expect from the GeForce GTX 470 should be 5-10% higher than that of the ATI Radeon HD 5850. The GeForce GTX 480 should be expected to be just that much faster than the ATI Radeon HD 5870. It is also expected that the target price of the GeForce GTX 480 should be typically US $499, while the GTX 470 should go typically for US $349. Detailed reviews of the two should be up by this time, next week.Source: VR-Zone
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82 Comments on GeForce GTX 400 Series Clock Speeds and Other Details Surface

#1
simlariver
DirectorC said:
Well, the thing is that some of us want a better driver with our car than the one that comes with the red one. The red team's driver is kind of drunk, changes all the time, bumps into stuff and sometimes crashes. The green team's driver is a bit more experienced and stable, shows up sober every day and does the job right.
Lol, code 18 here
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#2
imperialreign
Wonder how these cards will really fare, once they're to market . . .

If these cards are posed to beat the 5000 series around a bit, it wouldn't surprise me if ATI has a quick follow up in a 5890 flavour, or some "revamped" version of their cards . . .

Regarding the ATI drivers - I think more people have had problems since ATI has been focusing more on performance . . . which, IMHO, has a lot to do with the poll they ran almost a year ago, asking users (downloading drivers on their webpage) what they wanted more out of their drivers.
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#3
crow1001
Let's face facts, Nvidia have never been as subdued as this with performance parts so close to release, past generations they have got cards out to select reviewers to preview and boost up the release with impressive performance figures, this time, not a thing.
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#4
the54thvoid
Theres a great shot from NV PR relating the 480 to the 5870 from Hexus. Even better is the one a forum member has added.

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=22988

The first slide from NV made me realise how insecure NV is with this card. If for example it's 3 ticks at tesselation versus 5870's one tick, how come it's only 5-10% better overall (from VR zone source?).

Good card, Hot card, Hungry card, Hyped card.
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#5
xkche
y que pasaría si AMD/Ati desidiera sacar la HD5890 con un bus de 384-bits...??? le ganaría o sería igual a esta GTX 480??

Espero que esto de para que los precios de las VGA's bajen!

Saludos!
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#6
DarthCyclonis
the54thvoid said:
Theres a great shot from NV PR relating the 480 to the 5870 from Hexus. Even better is the one a forum member has added.

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=22988

The first slide from NV made me realise how insecure NV is with this card. If for example it's 3 ticks at tesselation versus 5870's one tick, how come it's only 5-10% better overall (from VR zone source?).

Good card, Hot card, Hungry card, Hyped card.
I love the second slide. That is probably more acurate then the first one. rofl
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#7
Thrackan
DarthCyclonis said:
I love the second slide. That is probably more acurate then the first one. rofl
Those slides are plain funny :D




Btw, doesn't OpenCL actually work on 58xx series?
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#8
TVman
so nvidia is really selling these cards at a loss:p
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#9
qwerty_lesh
So glad i ran around all of the computer shops in melbourne for a month and a half and got my red car at launch. (we copped the card shortage bad)

btw, on a stable system, the ATi drivers dont have many bugs, you're bound to get some differences and problems, one side will have bugs that the other doesn't for games, but thats to be expected.

oh and that 3d vision exclusive to nVidia is a crock, the preview drivers already enable functionality just like that for the red team.

but enough fanboy antics, I do love nvidias driver layout over ati's, but I will continue to betray one side to the other whenever theyre down to have whatever GFX card is kicking butt at the time :rockout:
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#10
crow1001
Thrackan said:


Btw, doesn't OpenCL actually work on 58xx series?
Yeah it does, just need ATI stream installed.

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#11
Sasqui
TVman said:
so nvidia is really selling these cards at a loss:p
LOL.

When the hell are we going to see some REAL benchmarks!!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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#12
Apocolypse007
bpgt64 said:
Yea, but AMD would do it just to cut into Nvidia's profits to begin with. I mean the HD 5 Series is fully developed, they have to be reducing the cost of production by now...Time to kick Nvidia in the balls while there down.

2g HD 5850 5870 5890 anyone?
The eyefinity version of the HD 5870 has 2 Gb gddr5. ATI has been ready with this for some time. They just probably were waiting to see fermi's real world performance before releasing.
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#13
locoty
I dont think ATI will cut the price. If they cant keep the 58xx supply good enough, they cant lower price. If they lower price, the card will be even more scarce

if ati rolls out 5890, nvidia will have big problem. With that TDP of gtx480, i dont think there will be gtx485, unless there i big revamp in their chip
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#14
kaosII
TVman said:
so nvidia is really selling these cards at a loss:p
NV is not losing money unless nobody buys these.
Somebodies making money. " This is a bussiness ".
Take a look at Newegg this morning. I had my cart ready to check out and for some reason they have jacked up prices on Nvidia cards 20-50 dollars, even the out of stock ones. Gee wonder why?????
Last monday I was set to put down 165.00 for a 260Gtx for a customer build and it was cheap.
I knew the new card release would do one of two things.
1. Bring prices down on older models (in time).
2. Cause Newegg to jack-up prices on existing stock to reduce loss.
They jumped the gun though, even the BFG 260Gtx that is not in stock that I was looking at (cuz I have one) is up to 205.00 BFG Tech BFGEGTX260MC896OCE. WTF!!!
This leaves no room for profit on my part. I payed 140.00 for it less than 4 months ago. 285's are hitting 380.00- 400.00 US.
I suppose their waiting on the idiot parade that is blindly shopping this next week.
Guess I'll sit this round out for awhile, till the smoke clears.
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#15
EastCoasthandle
480 @ 700 MHz GPU, shader domain @ 1401 MHz and 924 MHz (actual, 1848 MHz DDR, 3700 MHz effective) memory. Board power @ 295W
470 @ 607 MHz GPU, shader domain @ 1215 MHz and 837 MHz (actual, 1674 MHz DDR, 3348 MHz effective) memory. Board power @ 225w

Difference between the 480 and 470 is 2 clusters disabled (is that right?) and clock frequencies (sub: 2 memory chips per btarunr). The board power difference of 70w indicates some leakage issues IMO. Also, I am not to sure about the 480's overclock ability. It appears to be close to maxing out IMO. But we will see once the reviews of the retail product are out to know what it's overclock potential really is. As for the 470, there appears to be a huge amount of overclock potential. It may match the 480. But again we have to wait for reviews and hopefully user results.
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#16
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
EastCoasthandle said:
Difference between the 480 and 470 is 2 clusters disabled (is that right?) and clock frequencies.
And two memory chips.
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#17
EastCoasthandle
To me it's starting to look like the 470 will be the best option (depending on price and performance) over the 480. However, you wouldn't buy it to keep it at stock you would need to OC it IMO. This is where heat is a concern. But we will need reviews to know for certain.
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#18
naoan
VR-Zone updated their site :
GeForce GTX 480 : 480 SP, 700/1401/1848MHz core/shader/mem, 384-bit, 1536MB, 250W TDP, US$499

GeForce GTX 470 : 448 SP, 607/1215/1674MHz core/shader/mem, 320-bit, 1280MB, 225W TDP, US$349

* The intended GF100 has 512 SP clocked at 725/1450/1050MHz with 295W TDP. It should still be released in the future but just not now. For this launch, GTX 480 has 480 SP with clocks lowered to 700/1401/1848MHz at 250W TDP.
Hmm interesting...
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#20
naoan
Well duh you can check it yourself since the source link is there in the first post. :p
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#21
EastCoasthandle
naoan said:
Well duh you can check it yourself since the source link is there in the first post. :p
Well duh, everyone else has been reporting something different. So we need information like this verified. We need further evidence or just wait for the reviews. Besides, VR-Zone track record for this kind of stuff isn't the best you know ;)
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#22
Kamen
:shadedshu that just aint it.it cant have a higher TDP than a 5970.or if it realy does its
NVIDIA`s EPIC FAIL
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#23
naoan
EastCoasthandle said:
Well duh, everyone else has been reporting something different. So we need information like this verified. We need further evidence or just wait for the reviews. Besides, VR-Zone track record for this kind of stuff isn't the best you know ;)
Hmm but this news originally came from them so at least it need to be updated accordingly to let others know, but you're right we need more verifiable source. :toast:

But if this were true then which one did they refer when they said 480 beat 5870 by a slight margin? :confused:
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#24
EastCoasthandle
naoan said:
Hmm but this news originally came from them so at least it need to be updated accordingly to let others know, but you're right we need more verifiable source. :toast:

But if this were true then which one did they refer when they said 480 beat 5870 by a slight margin? :confused:
You are simply falling for the smoke and mirrors in all this. At this time we really don't know all the specs. Also how well it does against the 5800 series. What we do know from past experience is that if nv had a uber leet video card they would have shown official slides (as they usually do) and there would have been leaked verifiable performance numbers. Because it's a proven tactic to draw sales away from the competitor. Rumors may draw attention to what they are offering but it really doesn't hold any weight to keep people interested after all this time IMO.
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