Damn_SmoothI see your point, but everybody here has bitched about wanting performance numbers for a long time, myself included. How long is it going to take people to realize that we won't get any until AMD decides to give us some? And when will people quit crapping on threads with points we've all heard, and made, a million times?

cadavecaIt's more that you took it personal. Rant and rave about whatever PRODUCT you like, leave people and their opinions out of it. you even stated you understand why people are posting that they don't particularily care..it's not that they don't care about Bulldozer, it's that people want PERFORMANCE metrics, so they can relate what they see to their own personal uses.

We do have a verified AMD rep here, so I am fairly confident those opinions were stated so that AMD would see it. I mean, this event proly cost a pretty penny..potentially money that could ahve been spent better elsewhere.

I think it's cool, but am very upset it didn't happen to coincide with launch. The fact it's ES, too, has me raise a few questions, as we know that early samples didn't exactly function correctly...nor will the same chips be out in the "wild".


But, Guinness did verify it, it seems, so it's all good, just poorly executed. I've called myself ATI's #1 fanboy for years, and now, ATi no longer exists, but AMD does.


In the end, as someone said, nearly every site is talking about htis, so it's as effective as AMD wanted it to be...we're talking MORE about Bulldozer!

erockerThat phrase needs to be banned from the internet. Everyone's heard it, it serves no purpose, it's not even close to being humorous anymore. Please, get new material or better yet, stick to the topic.

3volvedcombatCeleron. Intel Celeron family is a line of budget x86 processors based on Pentium designs. Thanks for telling me what I already new. It was made budget, features disabled, disabled cache.

I don't think they were trying to break any records with a celeron when it comes to clock vs clock ratio performance. They were promoting mobile versions also, but calling out a Celeron for its terrible competition against clock for clock vs AMD's 939 brethren is hilariousness. I can understand completely about the 939 Low budget processors for more performance per clock but at same estimated market values.

I understand when everybody says its irrelevant that fx bulldozer overclocked to 8.43Ghz, and its epicly ironically obvious no one's gonna be throwing liquid hydrogen on the CPU's 24/7 so ..

We all know that Bulldozer is going to perform decent, and its not going to be overpriced, and probably be a cheaper platform overall. But many people can argue, find deals, and speculate.

The threads title is about a Guinness Record clock speed, on how they achieved a record clock awesome, :rockout:. I did flame slightly because all I read in this thread was more speculation, free post about Ironic irrelevance about the clock speed, and 30% cheered on the OC feat itself. It is everybody's viable opinion to post what you want, but its just the plane statements about bulldozer and its worth as mostly bad compared to Intel Competetion. Where did Intel and Speculation come out of no where.

But, no arguing. Because I realized (havnt loged on in couple months) there is just talk bash talk of bulldozer vs i72xxx k's.

newtekie1Again, people think this record is irrelevent because they know clock speed is irrelevent. Why hasn't that record been broken since the days of Netburst? Because no one has cared to do it, because performance records are important not clock speed records.

If you want to break some records, do it on records that the world actually cares about. Break a PCMark record, break a SuperPi record, break a GFLOP record, break a 3DMark CPU score record. Break a record that actually matters.

What scares me is that when Intel was behind, the started touting clock speed and breaking speed records. Now AMD is doing it, that is not a good sign for them IMO.

newtekie1Again, people think this record is irrelevent because they know clock speed is irrelevent. Why hasn't that record been broken since the days of Netburst? Because no one has cared to do it, because performance records are important not clock speed records.

If you want to break some records, do it on records that the world actually cares about. Break a PCMark record, break a SuperPi record, break a GFLOP record, break a 3DMark CPU score record. Break a record that actually matters.

What scares me is that when Intel was behind, the started touting clock speed and breaking speed records. Now AMD is doing it, that is not a good sign for them IMO.

Damn_SmoothNobody gives a shit about SuperPi. I would like it to break some of those other records though.

erockerSuperPi can be a good indicator of single threaded performance. Plus, it's simple and quick to use. WPrime? Okay, it is multi threaded, however the CPU with the better single thread performance will still come out on top.

3volvedcombatWith all this "I want real world benchmarks so badly QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ"

"QQQQQQQQQ"

People are bashing because they dont have patience.

Of all the processors AMD has released, do you think this processor is going to be an absolute fail.

If you answer yes, im confused.

I think bulldozer might just rip a new asshole beyond any of your speculations. Just because.

"flame baby flame" "flame baby ffflllaaaammmeee"

[H]@RD5TUFFAnd I have a gold plated toilet I really do but I can't be bothered to prove it, if your willing to believe spin go for but no proof = untrue.

[H]@RD5TUFFI believe I have been pretty clear, some proof would be a step in the right direction. No CPU-Z validation, no benchmarks nothing, j[LEFT]ust some random dude saying he clocked an engi sample. .. very trust worthy source.[/LEFT]:shadedshu

[H]@RD5TUFFIf you don't understand that if you can't prove it, then it's not true I don't know what to say to you. I'm saying it's fud no matter who says it unless they have proof to back it up which they do NOT! Like AMD would admit anything negative, of course they will promise the moon, it's what they deliver that matters, and as of this moments they haven't even given a release date, only FUD!:nutkick:

Completely Bonkerswww.guinnessworldrecords.com/search/

I can't find any relevant Guinness World Record that AMD has beaten.

And if I google I can find faster "processors".

So do they mean "the fastest overclocked x86 architecture"? And do they INTEND to make this a "Guinness world record" thing? Because there isn't one out there to beat! Amazing how "PR" goes viral.

AssimilatorNo-one said it was a lie, they said it was irrelevant. Learn reading comprehension.

[H]@RD5TUFFCan we lock this thread already ? We have had 7 pages of AMD trolls QQ'ing, and flaming people, for not having the same opinion as them.:nutkick:

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SteevoI have read some good posts, and some others where people just flame on AMD for doing something. Now we know something.

1) We know it has higher IPC
2) We know it has more cores.
3) We know it clocks like a mother.


Beyond all that there was flaming, accusing AMD of lying, accusing chew* of being a faker, and general asshattery.

tricksonYes we some thing this is for sure . But more Fluff than any thing really . ;)

SteevoIf you can't understand that a 8 core, with a 15-20% IPC improvement, and 1Ghz boost in speed compared to current offerings is a better deal for the majority of users than the Intel priced equivillant....... I dunno what to tell you, other than perhaps this isnt the thread you are looking for.

SteevoI have read some good posts, and some others where people just flame on AMD for doing something. Now we know something.

1) We know it has higher IPC
2) We know it has more cores.
3) We know it clocks like a mother.


Beyond all that there was flaming, accusing AMD of lying, accusing chew* of being a faker, and general asshattery.

[H]@RD5TUFFAccording to you

1) saying meh is flaming
2) being unimpressed is bashing
3) pointing out there was no CPU-Z validation and saying your taking the 5ghz on air claim with no proof as hearsay is flaming and calling people a liar


According to me you and many others can't accept others having a view that is not your own. Just let it go, and quit playing the victim.

[H]@RD5TUFFDo GTFO plz