AvonXWait until the benchmarks. Remember what happened with bulldozer?
I was one of those who was clever enough to wait until it was benched.
Too much reading minds and wild guesses is useless don't you think?
Damn my 1090T smokes these bulldozers. :roll:

My 1090T smoked dozer as well. Why would you hope for anything, but progress for the new chips especially with a lot of parts going EOL.

MelvisThis is true, and if these new CPU's dont cut it either than that's what ill be doing and leaving it for many many yrs to come.

That's the exact reason I run what I do. For what I do bulldozer doesn't cut it...For sure isn't worth the upgrade away from my stellar 790FX mobo.

The A10-5700 sounds like a very good move.

Never mind. I would buy the 8350 since it could be their last performance desktop cpu.
I think that those supposed leaked specs might be wrong.
There is a good chance that they could be clocked even higher *if they they managed to keep power consumption low enough. And i will also buy an APU for daily use when i am not gaming to save some money off my electricity bill. :p

eidairaman1Re-Read the Chart, in Post Number 1 :slap:

I guess you're going to have to spell it out for me. What I see is that an FX-8350 does not have on-die graphics, but has a big check mark for QuickStream which uses the graphics portion of an APU for videos.

cadavecaHmmm.


So, would you then say, that current FM1 APUs, that use Phenom II cores + IGP with almsot no cache, compared to the next-gen FM2 APU with PileDriver cores and IGP, would correctly relate what AMD intended with Bulldozer?



Because, you know, I've bad PD-based APU for over a month now, right? And I have no NDA either?



Do you think we should post a review? APU, vs APU? Just screw launch dates, get the info out now?


OH yeah, my chip:

img.techpowerup.org/120727/008995.jpg


Oh, and so that socket change, from FM1 to FM2, is kinda like the Phenom to FX AM3 to AM3+ or 890FX to 990FX change? A thing about better power delivery?


I mean, I know nothing, just got a chip here, and I kinda like to speculate myself....what is it really, and how fast is it?




I DO NOT KNOW!!! :p

I just registered to say this to you: How stupid do you think people are? Some nobrainer in a forum has an unreleased APU with a serial number of 1? Are you kidding me?:banghead:

Coffebreak? Some nobrainer in a forum has an unreleased APU with a serial number of 1? Are you kidding me?

I don't think people are stupid, at all. Thanks for registering.

And actually, I want people to believe I have an unreleased APU, that was made over 8 months ago, and wasn't public. I want you to beleive that certain CEO was fired because of it, and directly, because of what he did(or did not do) with it @ a certain trade show.

cadavecaI don't think people are stupid, at all. Thanks for registering.

And actually, I want people to believe I have an unreleased APU, that was made over 8 months ago, and wasn't public. I want you to beleive that certain CEO was fired because of it, and directly, because of what he did(or did not do) with it @ a certain trade show.

www.techpowerup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48263&stc=1&d=1346228846

Great another photoshop. :laugh:

How does the sucker perform?

AvonXGreat another photoshop. :laugh:

How does the sucker perform?

Ah, well, you see, boards are another story, for another day. All I need is a good board, with no NDA....


Was that my doorbell?!?




:laugh:

cadavecaI don't think people are stupid, at all. Thanks for registering.

And actually, I want people to believe I have an unreleased APU, that was made over 8 months ago, and wasn't public. I want you to beleive that certain CEO was fired because of it, and directly, because of what he did(or did not do) with it @ a certain trade show.

www.techpowerup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48263&stc=1&d=1346228846

Oh well. In that case consider yourself luckiest man on earth at that time lol :toast:

cadavecaAh, well, you see, boards are another story, for another day. All I need is a good board, with no NDA....


Was that my doorbell?!?




:laugh:

I think the police is there to grab you. :laugh:
Well since you managed to get that sucker 8 months ago, get me the steamroller based chip.
I promise i wont tell anyone. :roll:

cadavecaAh, well, you see, boards are another story, for another day. All I need is a good board, with no NDA....

In other words - You don't have a mobo with BIOS that would recognize this CPU, so You have not tested it yet?
(did I get it right?)

CoffebreakOh well. In that case consider yourself luckiest man on earth at that time lol :toast:

That depends. I tend to have quite a bit of unreleased hardware these days, and really, it's a lot to manage. I'm sure there are others out there with chips..I just got one with 0001, and I don't seem to recall ever signing any sort of NDA about the chip.:D


You can buy these chips, or well, different bins of the same chip, already. Laptops and a few desktops are laready out with slower-speed A8 APUs. It's really no big deal right now.

VinskaIn other words - You don't have a mobo with BIOS that would recognize this CPU, so You have not tested it yet?
(did I get it right?)

Honestly, I dunno what i got. I've got stuff that this CPU will fit into the socket of. It all waits in line for other reviews to be finished. Will AMD launch their product before my review goes public? Time will tell. You'll just have to keep watching the front page. :p

cadavecaThat depends. I tend to have quite a bit of unreleased hardware these days, and really, it's a lot to manage. I'm sure there are others out there with chips..I just got one with 0001, and I don't seem to recall ever signing any sort of NDA about the chip.:D


You can buy these chips, or well, different bins of the same chip, already. Laptops and a few desktops are laready out with slower-speed A8 APUs. It's really no big deal right now.

Well if you got an 83xx somewhere lying around I'll buy it off you so one thing less to worry about haha. :laugh:

Hmm. maybe if I publish early, AMD will notice, and get me CPUs...wait...I foil their launch...and expect to get something they don't give me already....does that make sense? :p

CoffebreakWell if you got an 83xx somewhere lying around I'll buy it off you so one thing less to worry about haha. :laugh:

LoL count me in as well. :laugh:

cadavecaHmm. maybe if I publish early, AMD will notice, and get me CPUs...wait...I foil their launch...and expect to get something they don't give me already....does that make sense? :p

Well they said at first that the Trinity APU's would be avalible August for public anyway so..I guess go ahead :fear: Hell with AMD, I just want to see how the new PD cores match up with BD. :D

AvonXLoL count me in as well. :laugh:

Honestly, guys, if I had such a chip, I'd have posted pictures. Unfortunately, AMD has denied me contact through marketing reps, so I have no early access to parts for reviews. I do, however, have this chip, and have for some time. Not 8 months...that's just the datecode on the chip, that says "1202", which would be the second week of 2012.

That in and of itself raises some interesting questions.

cadavecaHonestly, guys, if I had such a chip, I'd have posted pictures. Unfortunately, AMD has denied me contact through marketing reps, so I have no early access to parts for reviews. I do, however, have this chip, and have for some time. Not 8 months...that's just the datecode on the chip, that says "1202", which would be the second week of 2012.

That in and of itself raises some interesting questions.

Just bench that sucker and save us from all the curiosity we have about how it performs.
Post the results by tonight. Don't know if you would have AMD staff knocking on your door though. :p

AvonXJust bench that sucker and save us from all the curiosity we have about how it performs.

I'm with you on this one. :laugh:

I think the issue Dave has is the NDA on the Fm2 socketed motherboards, eagerly awaiting that review myself though :)

theoneandonlymrkI think the issue Dave has is the NDA on the Fm2 socketed motherboards, eagerly awaiting that review myself though :)

No issues with Dave, he has everything in order.
He is just worried about the early benchmark release and of course the consequences. :p

xorbeI guess you're going to have to spell it out for me. What I see is that an FX-8350 does not have on-die graphics, but has a big check mark for QuickStream which uses the graphics portion of an APU for videos.

support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDQuickStreamTechnology.aspx

its a software layer that possibly utilizes some of the CPUs characteristics. Its mainly bandwidth prioritization. Since Vishera doesnt have a GPU in the CPU, it will utilize an AMD video card

AvonXNo issues with Dave, he has everything in order.
He is just worried about the early benchmark release and of course the consequences. :p

Honestly, I do have everything in order, and it is as I said...I have other hardware for reviews I received before this chip. Everything gets put in order on my shelf, and like a store, first in is the first out. I have a board and memory review to finish this week, next week board and memory again, and then the following week two boards.


But, I just got my right arm out of a sling last monday, and am doing physio every morning, so whiel I have high hopes to move up to 2 reviews per week, I might miss that target a bit, depending on how my arm holds up. I aim to have some A10 APU info up the week after next for sure though. If AMD doesn't launch by then, well...oh well.

Is this the chip we are talking about? It's old news regarding leaks.

here's the source:

www.legitreviews.com/news/12666/

Yeah, same chip, and yes, there is quite a bit of info out already, hence me posting what I am..which is nothing that isn't already out there, really. I'm pretty sure Anandtech had liek nearly a full review of the APU.


Hoping a A8 3870K shows up on my doorstep within the next week or so so I don't have to buy one to do the review. I got an A8 3800, but that chip is locked, so I don't think the compare is accurate.