Monday, June 15th 2015

Radeon R9 390X and R9 390 to Feature Faster Memory, Core Over Predecessors

AMD's upcoming Radeon R9 390X and R9 390 performance-segment graphics cards reportedly feature higher GPU and memory clocks over the products they are a re-branding of, the R9 290X and R9 290, respectively. The 28 nm "Grenada" silicon they are based on, is identical to "Hawaii," down to the last transistor. This has been confirmed by leaked GPU-Z screenshots, which reveal the device-IDs of the two cards to be identical to those of the R9 290X and R9 290. Since the Device-IDs are the same, GPU-Z is reading the chip as "Hawaii." The code-name "Grenada" appears in the BIOS version string.

Unlike older, more blatant re-brands, such as GeForce 8800 GT to 9800 GT, AMD did drop in a few changes. To begin with, the memory amount has been doubled on both cards, to 8 GB. The memory clock has been increased from 1250 MHz (5.00 GHz GDDR5-effective), to 1500 MHz (6.00 GDDR5-effective), resulting in memory bandwidth increase to 384 GB/s, up from 320 GB/s. The core clock speed on the R9 390X is 1050 MHz (up from 1000 MHz on R9 290X); and 1000 MHz on the R9 390 (up from 947 MHz on the R9 290).

Source: VideoCardz
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114 Comments on Radeon R9 390X and R9 390 to Feature Faster Memory, Core Over Predecessors

#1
R-T-B
The 28 nm "Grenada" silicon they are based on, is identical to "Hawaii," down to the last transistor
I think Rejzor promised to eat his shoes if this happened.

I'll let him get away with it this time, but this is why you should never play "I'm going to eat my shoes" with unreleased products.
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#2
$ReaPeR$
cool! waiting for the benchmarks.. i think they will be ~10% better.
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#3
Joss
What a sad story all this is...
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#4
Vayra86
We really didn't need a crystal ball for this...

Ever since the HBM announcement on the new release this was clear as day.
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#5
ne6togadno
R-T-B said:
I think Rejzor promised to eat his shoes if this happened.

I'll let him get away with it this time, but this is why you should never play "I'm going to eat my shoes" with unreleased products.
meanwhile in slovenia @RejZoR...

:D
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#6
R-T-B
I'm not that mean... lol. Leather tastes something awful (don't ask).
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#7
ne6togadno
that particular one from picture isnt made from leather but from suger ;)
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#8
RejZoR
R-T-B said:
I think Rejzor promised to eat his shoes if this happened.

I'll let him get away with it this time, but this is why you should never play "I'm going to eat my shoes" with unreleased products.
Aaaaah, but I've also said for AMD to close the doors on release day. Not looking good so far...

Realeasing same units configuration as R9-290X, but with GCN 1.2 and framebuffer compression, fair enough. It was the sole reason why I was defending R9-390X up till this point (based on speculations). But this here, this is just fucking lazy AMD...

I'll just overclock my HD7950 even further and chew one shoe while doing it. They aren't seeing my money this year. Only thing that might convince me is vanilla Fury, but based on how lazy fucks they've become, I'm not having great hopes. Even if it'll be a performance success, it sure won't be anywhere near "affordable". And yet another boring year goes by in graphics industry...
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#9
ZoneDymo
All I can say is, all about pricing, price this a good amount below the 290x and we will all be happy.
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#10
$ReaPeR$
RejZoR said:
Aaaaah, but I've also said for AMD to close the doors on release day. Not looking good so far...

Realeasing same units configuration as R9-290X, but with GCN 1.2 and framebuffer compression, fair enough. It was the sole reason why I was defending R9-390X up till this point (based on speculations). But this here, this is just fucking lazy AMD...

I'll just overclock my HD7950 even further and chew one shoe while doing it. They aren't seeing my money this year. Only thing that might convince me is vanilla Fury, but based on how lazy fucks they've become, I'm not having great hopes. Even if it'll be a performance success, it sure won't be anywhere near "affordable". And yet another boring year goes by in graphics industry...
maybe its not lazyness but a lack of funds..
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#11
R-T-B
$ReaPeR$ said:
maybe its not lazyness but a lack of funds..
That's my concern. R&D like seen in the Fury must be paid for... AMD doesn't have an infinite amount of cash right now.
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#12
RejZoR
The R&D already done was the Tonga. They'd just have to transplant that on top of R9-290X and into the R9-390X like it was speculated from the very beginning. Instead they've gone into the shitty rebranding. FU AMD. Rebranding of R9-380X, I'd accept that, but 390X as well, no. Just no.
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#13
Debat0r
I really hope some big-budget company buys AMD soon, because they're not putting up a real fight right now...
Technology should be advancing exponentially, but without competition it's getting slower and slower every year :(

Without any proper investment, I hate to say this, they really aren't gonna survive for much longer. Oh well, guess there's nothing we can really do about it, except wait and hope the consequences aren't too harsh.
AMD doesn't have an infinite amount of cash right now.
And the first competitor for greatest understatement of 2015 is *drumroll* this quote!
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#14
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
R-T-B said:
I think Rejzor promised to eat his shoes if this happened.

I'll let him get away with it this time, but this is why you should never play "I'm going to eat my shoes" with unreleased products.
If Grenada was different from Hawaii (eg: GCN update), then they would have given it a different device ID. Else it would confuse the fvck out of drivers/applications. It's the same exact chip.
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#15
Xzibit
ZoneDymo said:
All I can say is, all about pricing, price this a good amount below the 290x and we will all be happy.
Don't think they are replacing the 290/X. There is no 390/X with 4GB and AMD never officially launched the 290/X 8GB version that was left to AIBs.

390X 8GB = ? / $389
290X 4GB = $349/$299
390 8GB = ? / $329
290 4GB = $289/$239

The rumored pricing...
AMD Radeon 300 Series Pricing Confirmed – Very Aggressive Performance Per Dollar Focused Positioning

BestBuy selling 390 for $369
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#16
RejZoR
$389 for R9-390X 8GB. This translates to 389€ + store margin = +400€. Sorry, but nope. It's a god damn last year tech with a new BIOS.
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#17
NC37
Xzibit said:
Don't think they are replacing the 290/X. There is no 390/X with 4GB and AMD never officially launched the 290/X 8GB version that was left to AIBs.

390X 8GB = ? / $389
290X 4GB = $349/$299
390 8GB = ? / $329
290 4GB = $289/$239

The rumored pricing...
AMD Radeon 300 Series Pricing Confirmed – Very Aggressive Performance Per Dollar Focused Positioning

BestBuy selling 390 for $369
Well the 390X will be intro'd at a lower price than the 290X was. But its not much. Literally just paying for 290X/8GB versions. For that matter, might as well keep an eye on those 8GB 290X models. Might catch them on some deals.
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#18
$ReaPeR$
RejZoR said:
$389 for R9-390X 8GB. This translates to 389€ + store margin = +400€. Sorry, but nope. It's a god damn last year tech with a new BIOS.
i agree that that would be expensive, but if it can compete in that price point why not? gpu's are generally too expensive imo.
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#19
Prima.Vera
RejZoR said:
$389 for R9-390X 8GB. This translates to 389€ + store margin = +400€. Sorry, but nope. It's a god damn last year tech with a new BIOS.
Agree. In Europe and East Asian countries the price will be way over 400€.
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#20
haswrong
$ReaPeR$ said:
maybe its not lazyness but a lack of funds..
its neither, they hit the limit of the indian brain..

NC37 said:
Well the 390X will be intro'd at a lower price than the 290X was. But its not much. Literally just paying for 290X/8GB versions. For that matter, might as well keep an eye on those 8GB 290X models. Might catch them on some deals.
what exactly is the overpriced, outdated, overheating, unoverclockable, superold tech good for?
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#21
R-T-B
$ReaPeR$ said:
i agree that that would be expensive, but if it can compete in that price point why not? gpu's are generally too expensive imo.
Because technology is generally supposed to march forward.

Don't get me wrong, my wallet loves that my 2 year old tech is running circles around all games in 1080p and will likely do it for 2+ more years. My brain however, tells me this isn't right...

haswrong said:
its neither, they hit the limit of the indian brain..
Huh?
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#22
Xzibit
NC37 said:
Well the 390X will be intro'd at a lower price than the 290X was. But its not much. Literally just paying for 290X/8GB versions. For that matter, might as well keep an eye on those 8GB 290X models. Might catch them on some deals.
Always look for deals.

All the 390/X that have been shown have an improved cooler. Need to see reviews to see if there is any benefit.
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#23
Legacy-ZA
That 8GB Memory is delicious, if you look at the most new games, I think 4GB is just inadequate. This sure will make the product future proof too. :)
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#24
RejZoR
I'd rather buy potentially broken and flawed GTX 970 then. At least it's still faster now even if that 3,5GB memory thing proves to be problematic in the future and lastly, it still costs freaking less.
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#25
haswrong
Legacy-ZA said:
That 8GB Memory is delicious, if you look at the most new games, I think 4GB is just inadequate. This sure will make the product future proof too. :)
that would make fury x very future unproof. which i think it is, but not due to the memory, but i saw the particle simulation benchmark and it was half the performance of titan x.. and that sais it all. rip amd..
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