Monday, July 3rd 2017

Passmark Stats Indicate AMD Gaining Market Share vs Intel Thanks to Ryzen

It seems AMD finally producing a competitive architecture to Intel may be showing in more than just words, but also in market share, if the recent Passmark benchmark reports are anything to go by. Passmark is a system benchmark used by builders and buyers to gauge a systems overall performance, so while it is not a complete market analysis, it is a good market indicator.

AMD market share has been historically decreasing for years relative to Intel since the launch of Intel's massively succesful "core" series of CPUs. To demonstrate this and the subsequent turnaround, Passmark has assembled the following neat little "Red vs Blue" graph below, showing historic and present market figures:
If we examine the above graph, we find the most recent trend of AMD market gains has not been mirrored since about 2005-2006, which certainly is a positive indicator for the market perception of AMD's product performance. It would seem for once AMD is not only competitive in words, but also where it matters: In the hearts and minds of system builders.Source: Passmark
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34 Comments on Passmark Stats Indicate AMD Gaining Market Share vs Intel Thanks to Ryzen

#2
Nuckles56
No wonder intel were in such a hurry to get X299 out the door, in an effort to stop the haemorrhaging that has been happening
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#3
ShurikN
Nuckles56 said:
No wonder intel were in such a hurry to get X299 out the door, in an effort to stop the hemorrhaging that has been happening
And in all that hurrying they f... up.
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#4
opojare
Well it makes perfect sense that people with shiny new cpu would run benchmark test. It's not good metric though.
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#5
dwade
Steam is telling an opposite story

Since we're comparing mainstream platforms, Steam >>> Passmark
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#7
notb
Biased statistics. Now every time I read such posts on TPU I look around for "Advertorial". :-P

It's not just the fact that Ryzen is new and people tend to benchmark it more. It's also about target audience. AMD CPUs are attractive to geeks, so they're more often benchmarked - regardless of the release cycle.
Notebook users rarely benchmark their machines and business users don't do this at all - these are the segments Intel dominates even more significantly (more profitable as well).

Just to give you an example: in 2014 Intel's "market share" according to PassMark was ~75%.
More precise market research (e.g. from IDC) suggests it was more like 82% for desktops and 90% for notebooks (keep in mind notebooks outsell desktops).
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerkay/2014/11/25/intel-and-amd-the-juggernaut-vs-the-squid/#abf8df22981b

As pointed out, Steam usage statistics show growing Intel share (not very representative as well, but still better than PassMark):
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/processormfg/
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#8
TheGuruStud
notb said:

As pointed out, Steam usage statistics show growing Intel share (not very representative as well, but still better than PassMark):
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/processormfg/
Idiots keep trying to game on laptops lol. Steam's results are always depressing. It's all plebes and squeakers.
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notb
TheGuruStud said:
Idiots keep trying to game on laptops lol. Steam's results are always depressing. It's all plebes and squeakers.
You're not very good at making friends, aren't you?
What's wrong with gaming on laptops? And how do you know laptops drive Intel's growth?
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#10
ShurikN
notb said:
And how do you know laptops drive Intel's growth?
There are no good AMD gaming laptops. Hell there are no good AMD laptops period. Which is a shame because there are some really nice FX mobile parts, that always got hampered by single channel mem and/or 15-25W limitation (even though they are 45W rated).
In my example, I couldn't wait for mobile Zen, so I the only alternative was Intel...
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#11
Fasola
notb said:
What's wrong with gaming on laptops? And how do you know laptops drive Intel's growth?
Intel's IGP growth. How many "gamers" can there be building desktops and sticking with integrated?
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#12
ShurikN
TheGuruStud said:
Idiots keep trying to game on laptops lol. Steam's results are always depressing. It's all plebes and squeakers.
So I'm an idiot for gaming on a laptop because my circumstances won't allow me to get a desktop?
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#13
_JP_
dwade said:
Steam is telling an opposite story

Since we're comparing mainstream platforms, Steam >>> Passmark
Steam isn't the best metric either, because it doesn't distinguish laptops from desktops...and I can guess a big amount of Intel users on steam game on laptops.
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#14
medi01
TheGuruStud said:
Idiots keep trying to game on laptops lol. Steam's results are always depressing. It's all plebes and squeakers.
Hardly anyone games on notebooks because he/she thinks it is faster.
Practically always it is a conscious compromise of more mobility vs more performance.

Your arrogant and insulting post makes no sense.
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#15
Liviu Cojocaru
I game on my laptop when I don't have access to my PC. I have a gaming laptop. On topic, I would say thumbs up for AMD, we need more competition so the prices come down to a decent level
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#16
vega22
notb said:
You're not very good at making friends, aren't you?
What's wrong with gaming on laptops? And how do you know laptops drive Intel's growth?
after posting?

notb said:

More precise market research (e.g. from IDC) suggests it was more like 82% for desktops and 90% for notebooks (keep in mind notebooks outsell desktops).
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerkay/2014/11/25/intel-and-amd-the-juggernaut-vs-the-squid/#abf8df22981b
erm, i guess calling overclockers names is a great way to make friends too?

so after showing evidence that claims intels laptop segment is the real driving force behind their current market share you forgot about it did you?

interesting.

as for what is wrong with gaming on them. normally the under powered cooling which is not designed to run full power for extended periods. that then causes the fps to suffer at which point the plebs tend to blame the game devs xD
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#17
jigar2speed
medi01 said:
Hardly anyone games on notebooks because he/she thinks it is faster.
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Dude are you high, loads of people play games on Laptops/Notebooks. You think people only play AAA tittles ? Indie games, MMORPG, any other Multiplayer games like DOTA 2 etc are easy on these hardwares.
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#18
Prima.Vera
We need more of this from AMD. We need another Athlon to wipe the floor with the Pentium again. Those were good times for consumers.
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#19
R-T-B
notb said:
Biased statistics. Now every time I read such posts on TPU I look around for "Advertorial". :p
How is it biased to report what Passmark themselves have claimed?

At any rate, if we do another advertorial, I think we've learned big bold letters are neccesary. Be thankful we at least tell you, unlike some out there with less profesionalism. :p
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#20
notb
R-T-B said:
How is it biased to report what Passmark themselves have claimed?
Statistically.
They're observing what CPUs are being benchmarked, but they (and everyone else) use it as an estimator of market share.
vega22 said:

as for what is wrong with gaming on them. normally the under powered cooling which is not designed to run full power for extended periods. that then causes the fps to suffer at which point the plebs tend to blame the game devs xD
You think this is worse than plebs blaming game devs for not optimizing games for new CPU architecture? :)
Fasola said:
Intel's IGP growth. How many "gamers" can there be building desktops and sticking with integrated?
Majority just few years ago. Today it's most likely a small group, but not because you can't game on IGP, but because a desktop is pretty pointless for most people.
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#21
GC_PaNzerFIN
If AMD market share was up even 2% in a quarter, the revenue estimates of AMD themselves would be off by hundreds of millions of dollars.
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#22
NGreediaOrAMSlow
AMD is doing better and still they have markets with poor or no Ryzen based presence.

* No integrated graphics CPUs
* No high end enthusiast/pro user CPU out (yet)
* No good Ryzen mobile CPU

If they do them right, Intel will have serious competition. I only hope they don't limit the CPUs with iGPU to only 4 cores both for desktop and mobile.
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#23
R0H1T
Prima.Vera said:
We need more of this from AMD. We need another Athlon to wipe the floor with the Pentium again. Those were good times for consumers.
No what we need is more popcorn & gas in this thread :D
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#24
Totally
ShurikN said:
So I'm an idiot for gaming on a laptop because my circumstances won't allow me to get a desktop?
Get over yourself you know that generalization isn't aimed at you. If you insist on taking offense then by all means ignore this comment.
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#25
notb
Totally said:
Get over yourself you know that generalization isn't aimed at you. If you insist on taking offense then by all means ignore this comment.
So how should we understand @TheGuruStud's comment? Maybe he cares to comment?
You're establishing a mutual admiration society?

Once again:

TheGuruStud said:
Idiots keep trying to game on laptops lol.
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