xkm1948Without proper competition Nvidia is slowly becoming Intel of the Sandy bridge days.

This logic makes no sense , AMD has cards in this particular range. This is close to bottom of the barrel anyway , how would "proper competition" change any of this ?

CasecutterJust consider 8 years ago this level of performance was needing you to drop $500, worked a TDP of 244W, and 10.5in long.

Just consider 8 years ago this performance was not at that level.
7970 is faster than a 1050TI by a good margin, it was launched in 2011.
It's cost was 479 during spring 6 years ago and dropped rapidly to low 400's
1050TI is 180-260$.

I don't feel it's very amazing. it's only 1/3rd of the power consumption of a card nearing a decade old!

Imsochobo7970 is faster than a 1050TI by a good margin

That seems incorrect:


The 7970 GHz edition seems about equal:

coonbrokinda like when NVidia was going to stop making 2 gb 960 and all were to go all 4gb ? it did not do much over or real benefit over the 2gb card but folks see 4 gb over the 2gb and gets goo gaa and buys

The reason the 960 was so slow was indirectly the memorys fault, with maxwell memory controllers are tied to rops, i would say that a lack of rops is to blame for its slowness, and since the memory controller was tied to the rops thats why people generally say that memory slowed the 960, it had plenty of bandwidth for 1080p but it just didnt have enough rops, the only solution would have been to cut down gm204 to maintain rops and memory controllers but if you were going to cut gm204 in half either means you have a surplus of failed chips or you coult care less about throwing away twice the money to get half the performance out of sillicon, the 1060 fixed the 960s lack of rops and look at it, it competes with a 980 even with less memory bandwidth and almost half of the shaders (mind you they clock way higher)

NVIDIA actually sold a 1050 FE on their website that looked like that some time back, for about £200. Lovely collector's card, but I hesitated buying it and it soon disappeared. Couldn't find one like it anywhere.

If that 3GB version becomes available and it's not too expensive, I'll buy it. Its performance is irrelevant to me.

qubitIts performance is irrelevant to me.

Really, havent heard that one before :D

CountrysideReally, havent heard that one before :D

You're skeptical? Just read my post again why I want it.

qubitYou're skeptical? Just read my post again why I want it.

Nope not skeptical just picky i like my collectors cards to be powerful.

I have actually bought graphics cards for their looks when I find them cheap-ish after their prime time has passed. Examples include the 7950 GX2 and GTX 590 (3 of them!) and 8800 Ultra among others. I even kept that glorious lemon that was the HD 2900 Pro 1GB (BIOS flashed to XT) which I paid full price for because I liked the look of the cooler. I even started a thread based on it:

www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/the-graphics-card-with-the-hottest-looks.113788/

Imsochobo7970 is faster than a 1050TI by a good margin, it was launched in 2011.

Hum, first I didn't say anything about the Radeon HD 7970 (Released Dec 22nd, 2011 so more 2012 in my book) let alone the Ti revision...

I was only was contrasting what Nvidia has provide since the Fermi days, such a GTX 580 was released Nov 9th, 2010 (so < 8yr's now); although the GTX 1050 Released Oct 25th, 2016. it was just 6 years back at that point.

As it being a fair comparison, I'll leave that to others to chime in about. Some might want more than a 70% reduction in TDP, however that's only a single reference for analysis. Better would be the actual power during gaming (Perf/W), which I'd have to believe is the true/correct data to judge from.

You need to just have a look here; unless you next want to discuss the validity of said relative performance data?
www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2875/geforce-gtx-1050

As have i, like the 8800gtx, HD3850

"GPP had a simple goal – ensuring that gamers know what they are buying and can make a clear choice. "

see.. they dont want to confuse gamers LMAO!! next thing you know, there is be 5 variants of each models!

thanks AMvidia? idk, im confused, i need GPP i guess..

> ensuring that gamers know what they are buying and can make a clear choice

like the GTX 970 "4GB" ...