Wednesday, June 27th 2018

Intel Z390 Platform, Intel Core i9 CPU Lineup Leaked?

According to a report from WCCFTech, Intel is prepping the release of the Z390 chipset and is gearing up to bring their Core i9 branding series to the mainstream desktop platforms. Apparently, Intel's renaming scheme serves as a way to add the required "branding impact" to the fact that the i9 series of processors is finally hitting the mainstream - but don't be deluded. As we've previously covered, Intel's Z390 chipset may well become a rebrand of sorts from the current Z370 chipset, after Intel found insufficient capacity at its 14 nm node (which has to cope with the vast majority of Intel silicon production, following the smattering of delays hitting its 10 nm process). Basically, Intel's Z390 chipset will bring forward features that weren't built on the Z370 chipset at its inception, but have since become part of Intel's lineup (read, for example, its H370 chipset): Intel Wireless-AC 802.11 AC and Bluetooth 5.0; Intel Wireless-AC Adapter; and up to 6 x USB 3.1 Gen 2 Ports.

According to WCCFTech, there's only confirmation of an 8-core, 16-thread CPU (Intel Core i9-9900K); a 6-core, 12-thread one (Intel Core i7-9700K) and a six-core, six-thread part (Intel Core i5-9600K ). No confirmation on an i3 part has been had yet, but it's very unlikely Intel has shelved that part of their lineup. A 4-core CPU is simply too important - from a yield perspective, mainly - for Intel to shelve it - and there's still enough demand for these, even with AMD's many-core democratization push.
Sources: WCCFTech, Intel 300 Series Chipsets
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47 Comments on Intel Z390 Platform, Intel Core i9 CPU Lineup Leaked?

#1
Vayra86
OMG ITS OVER 9000 now
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#2
mcraygsx
Once again I am intrigued by "Intel found insufficient capacity at its 14 nm node". Yet another sub standard chipset with short shelf life. Seems like it has been a trend with Intel since Z170. Instead of new 9000 series, they should've called it 8900K/8990K.

I am all for it if price/performance and its ability to overclock remains intact. Let AMD have a taste of their own medicine.
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#3
JalleR
those names are saved for the highend market…. THE 5GHZ 28 CORS.... LOL....
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#4
dgianstefani
I expect the 9900k will have similar OC headroom as the 8700k (All core 5-5.2ghz), with single core stock boost speed being 5ghz out of the box.

This will mean identical single core performance but multi being about 30% faster which will be great.
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#5
xkm1948
Wait, so I9 for main stream again? What about X299? Damn Intel you are always confusing.
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#7
mcraygsx
dwade
RIP 2700x
It is not over yet, remember AMD said they are ready to counter Intel's 8 Cores processor with something like 2800X.

Anderson basically told the press that the launch of a Ryzen 7 2800X hinges upon Intel's response."

"When AMD announced their second generation Ryzen processors a few days ago the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X was positioned at the top, rather than something like a 2800 or 2800X to match the Ryzen 7 1800X. However, AMD’s Senior Vice President, Jim Anderson, has hinted that we might see a 2800X at a later date."
https://www.notebookcheck.net/We-may-still-see-a-Ryzen-7-2800X-at-a-later-date-says-AMD-s-Jim-Anderson.300696.0.html
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#8
dj-electric
mcraygsx
It is not over yet, remember AMD said they are ready to counter Intel's 8 Cores processor with something like 2800X.

Anderson basically told the press that the launch of a Ryzen 7 2800X hinges upon Intel's response."

"When AMD announced their second generation Ryzen processors a few days ago the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X was positioned at the top, rather than something like a 2800 or 2800X to match the Ryzen 7 1800X. However, AMD’s Senior Vice President, Jim Anderson, has hinted that we might see a 2800X at a later date."
https://www.notebookcheck.net/We-may-still-see-a-Ryzen-7-2800X-at-a-later-date-says-AMD-s-Jim-Anderson.300696.0.html
An extra 200Mhz out of the box isn't gonna do jack.
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#9
phanbuey
dj-electric
An extra 200Mhz out of the box isn't gonna do jack.
It will if it's super cheap.

Why would they call an 8th gen i7 9700? why not i7 8800? 8900K.... marketing people make no sense.

What i really want is a cheap Cascade Lake 10 core that is soldered and can crack 5Ghz w/ HT off ... not gonna happen but would be nice.
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#10
Hood
I'm glad to see Intel still stomping everything AMD comes up with, without using the loser's tactic of drastically dropping prices. Intel should charge 'all the traffic will bear' for CPUs and platforms that are clearly superior. Cue the "but Ryzen 2 will change everything" posts - I loved hearing all the misguided arguments about how moar corz is so important, so what will be their mantra now? "Lower prices makes low performance less painful"? Millions of YouTube videos made by the thousands of wannabe video stars are contrary to this theory, the quality of YouTube content has tanked since Ryzen was released, "democratizing" core counts for the masses. It gets harder every day just to wade through all the self-serving crap, trying to find a useful video of a needed review, repair, or diagnosis. Thanks, AMD, for ruining another good thing, you should join the Flat Earth Society.
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#11
dj-electric
phanbuey
It will if it's super cheap.
Assuming it will cost only 50$ over the 2700X, we're talking 370$ here.
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#12
uberknob1
Hood
I'm glad to see Intel still stomping everything AMD comes up with, without using the loser's tactic of drastically dropping prices. Intel should charge 'all the traffic will bear' for CPUs and platforms that are clearly superior. Cue the "but Ryzen 2 will change everything" posts - I loved hearing all the misguided arguments about how moar corz is so important, so what will be their mantra now? "Lower prices makes low performance less painful"? Millions of YouTube videos made by the thousands of wannabe video stars are contrary to this theory, the quality of YouTube content has tanked since Ryzen was released, "democratizing" core counts for the masses. It gets harder every day just to wade through all the self-serving crap, trying to find a useful video of a needed review, repair, or diagnosis. Thanks, AMD, for ruining another good thing, you should join the Flat Earth Society.
Still stomping? in what sense? Intel may have IPC crown but if it wasn't down to Ryzen people would still be buying 4c/8t Intel CPU's for $400, the fact they have for the first time in how many years of the Core I series, released 6 and 8 core mainstream variants in response to AMD Ryzen and also managed to price them somewhat competitively is all down to Ryzen. So core count is worth nothing? ok stick with your 7700k see how far that gets you in a year or so, in fact how far does that get you now unless all you do is game and bench single thread IPC then congrats bro, you win... more people are doing more with their PC's, just look at HEDT and you're now looking at 10,12,16,24 and 32 cores. But hey crap on AMD for bringing what was only available to HEDT consumers at $1k price with 8c+ CPU's, totally makes sense!
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#13
RejZoR
I'm probably not buying any new Intel CPU's for as long as they'll insist on using garbage thermal goo. Their CPU's have absolutely horrendous thermals and there is NO way in improving them unless you delid them. Which is just retardation and defeats the purpose.
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#14
Vayra86
Hood
I'm glad to see Intel still stomping everything AMD comes up with, without using the loser's tactic of drastically dropping prices. Intel should charge 'all the traffic will bear' for CPUs and platforms that are clearly superior. Cue the "but Ryzen 2 will change everything" posts - I loved hearing all the misguided arguments about how moar corz is so important, so what will be their mantra now? "Lower prices makes low performance less painful"? Millions of YouTube videos made by the thousands of wannabe video stars are contrary to this theory, the quality of YouTube content has tanked since Ryzen was released, "democratizing" core counts for the masses. It gets harder every day just to wade through all the self-serving crap, trying to find a useful video of a needed review, repair, or diagnosis. Thanks, AMD, for ruining another good thing, you should join the Flat Earth Society.
Ehhh wtf are you talking about man. Get off the web for abit, its distorting your grip on reality.

Damn... you dont even know what these Intel cpus run at in their 8 core iteration. Completely baseless and BTW Ryzen is already surpassing Intel in performance ona number of tasks, and it is faster clock-for-clock too.

The only reason Intel still has CPUs that matter is because they provide them with a factory OC since kaby lake. Stop fooling yourself
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#15
mcraygsx
RejZoR
I'm probably not buying any new Intel CPU's for as long as they'll insist on using garbage thermal goo. Their CPU's have absolutely horrendous thermals and there is NO way in improving them unless you delid them. Which is just retardation and defeats the purpose.
I agree with everything you said and we have a right to criticize Intel for their negligence. Despite the facts some of us avoid AMD all together for a reason including myself. I've never really owned AMD product but at this point I am willing to pay INTEL $5 more (on already overpriced processors) if my next CPU is soldered. Thermal goop they have been using defeats the purpose of overclocking potential.

I sure miss my old 5930K since it was the last processor I owned which was soldered and had linear thermal characteristics unlike this spiky and unpredictable 7700K. From experience when overclocked no amount of cooling is sufficient for this chip unless I decide to Delid it someday which is unlikely.
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#16
Octopuss
9700K
What's the point???? That has to be rebranded 8700K.
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#17
Vayra86
Octopuss
9700K
What's the point???? That has to be rebranded 8700K.
Yup, same process and same arch yet some individuals seem to think magic will happen even when the 8700K is already pushing the limits in terms of heat and power to achieve clocks beyond 4.8 Ghz.

The i9 marketing seems to work well on some giullible fools.... even on TPU. Crazy
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#18
mcraygsx
Octopuss
9700K
What's the point???? That has to be rebranded 8700K.
It is suppose to have similar specs as 8700K with additional of 2 more cores while using same Ring interconnect. Too early to say anything about clocks.

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#19
Vya Domus
Octopuss
9700K
What's the point????
Introducing a new product and updating the name scheme for the rest of the lineup which remains unchanged. Something everyone does , I am not sure why everyone is surprised by this.

That being said in recent times Intel does seem to have employed this rather annoying and confusing tactic of introducing an endless amount of chipsets and re-branded CPUs that only work with a specific line of CPUs every single time they notice any movement from their competitor.

mcraygsx
It is suppose to have similar specs as 8700K with additional of 2 more cores while using same Ring interconnect. Too early to say anything about clocks.
See , actually the 9700K is supposed to be the current 8700K . Seems like the confusion is already manifesting:laugh:
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#20
Chloe Price
xkm1948
Wait, so I9 for main stream again? What about X299? Damn Intel you are always confusing.
Still not as confusing as those dual core i5 & i7 mobile CPUs.

Octopuss
9700K
What's the point???? That has to be rebranded 8700K.
I'm thinking the same. Just like the 8000 series i3:s are using Kaby Lake dies.
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#21
ssdpro
mcraygsx
It is suppose to have similar specs as 8700K with additional of 2 more cores while using same Ring interconnect. Too early to say anything about clocks.


Clocks will be the same just more cores.
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#22
Vayra86
mcraygsx
Thank you for clarification, BTW did you edited the image from my POST and added White House with Russians flag interfacing with memory system?
That is just hilarious, that. LMAO
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#23
mcraygsx
ssdpro
Clocks will be the same just more cores.
Thank you for clarification, BTW did you edited the image from my POST and added White House with Russians flag interfacing with memory system?. Ironic but it makes total sense. What if these so called vulnerabilities being discovered recently were all part of the plan.
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#24
GreiverBlade
dwade
RIP 2700x
nah... i find intel less interesting as an option for my next rig ...


well, even if i would be the only one (highly unlikely) that would still be one ... positive point .... that would make me unique :laugh: to have taken that option ... (oh well it's not like the IPC gain from the new Intel CPU will bury Ryzen ... far from that and you can be sure that the price will not reflect the meager gain over it)

kinda fed up to pay more for ... not really more

dj-electric
Assuming it will cost only 50$ over the 2700X, we're talking 370$ here.
i kinda hate my country ... a 6/7/8700K is rather in the 450$ range for me ... sooooo, fat chance a 9XXX would be in the 370$ for me :laugh:

and if it was only 50$ more than a 2700X that would still be an argument in favor for an AMD switch to me ... 50$ is 50$ hehe
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#25
deu
Hood
I'm glad to see Intel still stomping everything AMD comes up with, without using the loser's tactic of drastically dropping prices. Intel should charge 'all the traffic will bear' for CPUs and platforms that are clearly superior. Cue the "but Ryzen 2 will change everything" posts - I loved hearing all the misguided arguments about how moar corz is so important, so what will be their mantra now? "Lower prices makes low performance less painful"? Millions of YouTube videos made by the thousands of wannabe video stars are contrary to this theory, the quality of YouTube content has tanked since Ryzen was released, "democratizing" core counts for the masses. It gets harder every day just to wade through all the self-serving crap, trying to find a useful video of a needed review, repair, or diagnosis. Thanks, AMD, for ruining another good thing, you should join the Flat Earth Society.
Well I guess we found the shitpost of the thread! :D This can only be trolling or lack of knowledge, but if the later I would advice you to read up on the general market, but in short: AMD is pushing marketshares in laptop and serversegment+ mainstream like they havent done since X2-series. If you have stock in intel you can be salty, but otherwise this is good for everyone (even the people swearing to intel) Ryzen is pushing innovation beyond what intel is capable/willing to. Regarding your salt towards youtube; if you cant handle to pick what you want to see onthere, get off youtube. Its like ranting about not liking to go to the movie after you've bought a ticket.
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