Friday, August 24th 2018

NVIDIA's BFGD Solutions Delayed to Q1 2019, Will Cost an Awful Penny

NVIDIA's BFGD solutions (Big Format Gaming Display) are meant to become the ultimate gaming graphics display solution for gamers. their 4K resolution and 120 Hz refresh rates with G-Sync support are meant to become the baseline for smoothness in gaming scenarios, and the 1000 NITS peak brightness is meant to make HDR images that are relevant - differing from other, less "refined", shall we say, implementations. However, the hardware specs for these systems are high, parts are expensive and difficult to procure, and the process of integrating so much technology (including Quantum Dot tech and NVIDIA Shield) seems to be giving integrators a hard time.

As such, and as part of Gamescom coverage, press was made aware by NVIDIA partners of a recent delay decision for these BFGD panels' market introduction - they've been moved to Q1 2019. And as the launch timeframe has jumped, so have cost estimates for the end-user: these now sit between the €4,000 and €5,000 ballpark, making these displays, with as much tech as they have, a difficult buy to stomach. The fact that OLED display solutions can be had, in the same diagonals, by much, much less, should give anyone pause in their purchase decision for these BFGD displays. Even if the value one puts down on G-Sync does lead users to a purchase decision, remember that integration of the HDMI 2.1 standard brings with it VRR (Variable Refresh Rate) support, and that Xbox consoles already support the open, free-to-implement FreeSync standard. Sources: Hardware.Info, via Videocardz
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53 Comments on NVIDIA's BFGD Solutions Delayed to Q1 2019, Will Cost an Awful Penny

#1
Prince Valiant
At least they had the good sense to use HDMI 2.1. Unlike a certain $2k HDR monitor that can't run at its full potential because of the lack of its inclusion. VESA needs to quit diddling around and release a new DP version soon.
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#2
Animalpak
I dont know but when i read BFGD i instantly read so big f... gaming display... It is just a instinct i cant control.:roll:
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#3
Vya Domus
Is there anything that Nvidia does which doesn't cost a pretty penny ?
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#4
SIGSEGV
Vya Domus
Is there anything that Nvidia does which doesn't cost a pretty penny ?
lol.
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#5
jabbadap
Prince Valiant
At least they had the good sense to use HDMI 2.1. Unlike a certain $2k HDR monitor that can't run at its full potential because of the lack of its inclusion. VESA needs to quit diddling around and release a new DP version soon.
Speaking of which. What are the specs of Displayport 1.4a, which Turing is ready for? I can't find them anywhere, only thing what came up was it was released April 2018.
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#6
bonehead123
To summarize then.....

Don't announce shit before you know for sure you have all your duckies in a row........ parts, tech implementation, production ramp, channel distro, sales, marketing etc etc.....

Back in the day, I beleive this was frequently referred to as "VAPORWARE" . HAHAHAHA :)
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#7
Ed_1
I wish they would focus more on 1440p size with all the features in like 27-32" size.
They would sell way more than some nich size/res monitor.
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#8
the54thvoid
Vya Domus
Is there anything that Nvidia does which doesn't cost a pretty penny ?
Not to disagree with the sentiment but such screens will be impressive and cutting edge for what they are.

However... there is a point you think. I like the idea of that, and I would want one but... not at that dizzying and ridiculous price. I've got my 55" HDR OLED TV. It's awesome. But fairly new it cost me £2300. So, double that for a non-OLED gaming screen. What the deuce?
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#11
Nkd
I am not sure why the F nvidia is pushing these expensive displays. As soon as we get more freesync HDR displays I am out. Might as well grab a big f'in freesync TV and throw a navi on there. F gsync. High end gaming seems to have turned in to luxury gaming now. Thats what nvidia is going for now. I'll Stay with high end when 7nm hits and grab a freesync HDR monitor and call it a day. The new gsync monitors seem fat and hot and expensive.
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#12
cucker tarlson
Nkd
I am not sure why the F nvidia is pushing these expensive displays. As soon as we get more freesync HDR displays I am out. Might as well grab a big f'in freesync TV and throw a navi on there. F gsync. High end gaming seems to have turned in to luxury gaming now. Thats what nvidia is going for now. I'll Stay with high end when 7nm hits and grab a freesync HDR monitor and call it a day. The new gsync monitors seem fat and hot and expensive.
Really,you can buy a freesync 65" 4K 120Hz HDR on a budget, that is incredible....

If there's technology to do it,then do it. People buy,things get cheaper. If they don't roll them out,they'll never make it to the level that most of us can afford. Let people with fat pockets buy them.


btw big format displays are really the only solution for real 1000nit HDR, you try that shit on a 27" that's sitting on your desk, your eyes will catch fire when the image goes white.
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#13
Manu_PT
cucker tarlson
Really,you can buy a freesync 65" 4K 120Hz HDR on a budget, that is incredible....

If there's technology to do it,then do it. People buy,things get cheaper. If they don't roll them out,they'll never make it to the level that most of us can afford. Let people with fat pockets buy them.


btw big format displays are really the only solution for real 1000nit HDR, you try that shit on a 27" that's sitting on your desk, your eyes will catch fire when the image goes white.
You have 4k quantum dot TVs that deliver 120hz at 1440p and 1080p and have FreeSync2. Next year, new tv models will ship with HDMI 2.1 and 4k 120hz aswell.

Future of AAA gaming is on the next grn consoles, mark my word. PC is turning into a luxury. Nvidia gpu prices shown that.
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#14
Nkd
cucker tarlson
Really,you can buy a freesync 65" 4K 120Hz HDR on a budget, that is incredible....

If there's technology to do it,then do it. People buy,things get cheaper. If they don't roll them out,they'll never make it to the level that most of us can afford. Let people with fat pockets buy them.


btw big format displays are really the only solution for real 1000nit HDR, you try that shit on a 27" that's sitting on your desk, your eyes will catch fire when the image goes white.
True that is why I think this generation is the one to skip. Next year I bet 7nm competition brings prices down and first gen turing will be after thought. Thank you early adopters for making it cheaper. I have always got the latest high end. But I sort of chose not to let NVidia rape me with Ti priced at 1200 from 700. That is my max. I am not going in to luxury gaming. High end is just fine with me.
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#15
cucker tarlson
Nkd
True that is why I think this generation is the one to skip. Next year I bet 7nm competition brings prices down and first gen turing will be after thought. Thank you early adopters for making it cheaper. I have always got the latest high end. But I sort of chose not to let NVidia rape me with Ti priced at 1200 from 700. That is my max. I am not going in to luxury gaming. High end is just fine with me.
What ? 7nm displays ? What are you on dude ?

Manu_PT
4k quantum dot TVs that deliver 120hz at 1440p
:laugh:
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#16
Nkd
Manu_PT
You have 4k quantum dot TVs that deliver 120hz at 1440p and 1080p and have FreeSync2. Next year, new tv models will ship with HDMI 2.1 and 4k 120hz aswell.

Future of AAA gaming is on the next grn consoles, mark my word. PC is turning into a luxury. Nvidia gpu prices shown that.
This! You are right it seems. I think next gen consoles will probably pack plenty of punch. Heck xbox one x is already fairly decent. I think consoles will be even more appealing and Nvidia will own the luxury end and AMD will be plenty happy with just high end. I mean that is where most of the buyers are.

cucker tarlson
What ? 7nm displays ? What are you on dude ?
LOL You think I am that stupid. You should have known I was referring to video cards. I think you are on something. Sometimes one doesn't have to label stuff for you, I don't think readers here are that dumb! I just can't believe you assume that I am that stupid! Did you read my entire post or just stopped after 7nm. That is why people need to start reading the entire thing instead of glancing over. Read the whole thing it will make sense.
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#17
cucker tarlson
Wow,someone is easily butthurt.
This is a thread about displays, it's got nothing to do with gpus and honestly the early adpotion a bfgd that I was talking about and early adpotion of new gpus that you put in the same box are really completely different.
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#18
Gungar
Ed_1
I wish they would focus more on 1440p size with all the features in like 27-32" size.
They would sell way more than some nich size/res monitor.
I need that but with Microled oO
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#19
Nkd
cucker tarlson
No,it's just a thread about displays, it's got nothing to do with gpus and honestly the relation between early adpoting a bfgd that I was talking about and early adpotion of new gpus that you put in the same box are really completely different.
I was taking about in general. These displays are definitely for gamers right? You need top end cars to power them. So I don't think you can ban 7nm GPUs out of conversation. It was just a generalization that early adopters will fund the 7nm stuff that will cost half as much. GPUs and displays getting cheaper by next year or two.
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#20
cucker tarlson
Nkd
I was taking about in general. These displays are definitely for gamers right? You need top end cars to power them. So I don't think you can ban 7nm GPUs out of conversation. It was just a generalization that early adopters will fund the 7nm stuff that will cost half as much. GPUs and displays getting cheaper by next year or two.
Calm down,I never said anything personal,you're being paranoid. You wrote "true,that is why this generation is one to skip",which really does not connect to what I said at all,how was I supposed to answer that.
In all honesty, next gen gpus are needed in far more scenarios than 4K 120k, majority of people that will buy them will use them for 1080p/1440p +120Hz and 3440x1440. 4K 120Hz is still a mirage, and will be for a long time. Mostly cause we prefer to game on standard size 24-27 inch desktop monitors and that will continue for quite some time. Look how few people even go for 32" as desktop monitor,even though they're very affordable.
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#21
zelnep
120fps on 4K?... like what gpu are nvidia planing to recommend for this? do nvidia know something about amd navi? or intels 2020 project? because one thing nvida can know for sure - no green team cards that can push past 80fps on 4K anytime soon
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#22
Totally
cucker tarlson
Really,you can buy a freesync 65" 4K 120Hz HDR on a budget, that is incredible....

If there's technology to do it,then do it. People buy,things get cheaper. If they don't roll them out,they'll never make it to the level that most of us can afford. Let people with fat pockets buy them.


btw big format displays are really the only solution for real 1000nit HDR, you try that shit on a 27" that's sitting on your desk, your eyes will catch fire when vhchthe image goes white.
Thing get cheaper as people buy more really? You still buy into that fairy tale? Why are the current 2 year going on 3 year gpus costing the same as they did when launched? Why are the new gpu costing upwards of 30% to nearly double as much? Displays aren't any better as advancements in panel tech have slowed down considerably and now since they're just improving on features. They outgoing model gets discounted and the new tv comes in at a slightly higher or the same price. Economy of scale hasn't applied to TVs or GPUs for a while.
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#23
Renald
Playing with HDR 1000 is like that :


Prepare to have your eyes on fire after 1 hour.

My 400cd screen is half or third (depending) of full luminosity so I can use it without losing an eye at the end of the day.
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#24
cucker tarlson
Totally
Thing get cheaper as people buy more really? You still buy into that fairy tale? Why are the current 2 year going on 3 year gpus costing the same as they did when launched? Why are the new gpu costing upwards of 30% to nearly double as much? Displays aren't any better as advancements in panel tech have slowed down considerably and now since they're just improving on features. They outgoing model gets discounted and the new tv comes in at a slightly higher or the same price. Economy of scale hasn't applied to TVs or GPUs for a while.
I was really talking about a longer period of time AND NOT ABOUT FRIGGIN GPUS, another one doesn't understand that. How much did first 1440p 144Hz cost, and how much are they now ?
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#25
the54thvoid
Renald
Playing with HDR 1000 is like that :


Prepare to have your eyes on fire after 1 hour.

My 400cd screen is half or third (depending) of full luminosity so I can use it without losing an eye at the end of the day.
Its peak brightness, not sustained.
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