Monday, December 3rd 2018

NVIDIA Presents the TITAN RTX 24GB Graphics Card at $2,499

NVIDIA today introduced NVIDIA TITAN RTX , the world's most powerful desktop GPU, providing massive performance for AI research, data science and creative applications. Driven by the new NVIDIA Turing architecture, TITAN RTX - dubbed T-Rex - delivers 130 teraflops of deep learning performance and 11 GigaRays of ray-tracing performance.

"Turing is NVIDIA's biggest advance in a decade - fusing shaders, ray tracing, and deep learning to reinvent the GPU," said Jensen Huang, founder and CEO of NVIDIA. "The introduction of T-Rex puts Turing within reach of millions of the most demanding PC users - developers, scientists and content creators."
Ultimate PC GPU
NVIDIA's greatest leap since the invention of the CUDA GPU in 2006 and the result of more than 10,000 engineering-years of effort, Turing features new RT Cores to accelerate ray tracing, plus new multi-precision Tensor Cores for AI training and inferencing. These two engines - along with more powerful compute and enhanced rasterization - enable capabilities that will transform the work of millions of developers, designers and artists across multiple industries.
Designed for a variety of computationally demanding applications, TITAN RTX provides an unbeatable combination of AI, real-time ray-traced graphics, next-gen virtual reality and high performance computing. It delivers:
  • 576 multi-precision Turing Tensor Cores, providing up to 130 teraflops of deep learning performance.
  • 72 Turing RT Cores, delivering up to 11 GigaRays per second of real-time ray-tracing performance.
  • 24GB of high-speed GDDR6 memory with 672GB/s of bandwidth - 2x the memory of previous-generation TITAN GPUs - to fit larger models and datasets.
  • 100GB/s NVIDIA NVLink can pair two TITAN RTX GPUs to scale memory and compute.
  • Incredible performance and memory bandwidth for real-time 8K video editing.
  • VirtualLink port provides the performance and connectivity required by next-gen VR headsets.
Built for AI Researchers and Deep Learning Developers
TITAN RTX transforms the PC into a supercomputer for AI researchers and developers. TITAN RTX provides multi-precision Turing Tensor Cores for breakthrough performance from FP32, FP16, INT8 and INT4, allowing faster training and inference of neural networks. It offers twice the memory capacity of previous generation TITAN GPUs, along with NVLink to allow researchers to experiment with larger neural networks and data sets.

Perfect for Data Scientists
A powerful tool for data scientists, TITAN RTX accelerates data analytics with RAPIDS. RAPIDS open-source libraries integrate seamlessly with the world's most popular data science workflows to speed up machine learning.
Content Creators Create Their Best Work
TITAN RTX brings the power of real-time ray tracing and AI to creative applications, so 5 million PC-based creators can iterate faster. It also delivers the computational horsepower and memory bandwidth needed for real-time 8K video editing.
Available This Month
TITAN RTX will be available later this month in the U.S. and Europe for $2,499.
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193 Comments on NVIDIA Presents the TITAN RTX 24GB Graphics Card at $2,499

#151
jabbadap
EarthDogIf you dont need the extra vram for the datasets intended to be crunched, I agree with that sentiment. :)

That said, can you 'sli' these for compute in the first place? If this is coming from a gaming perspective I also understand the sentiment but believe it to be misplaced considering it isnt intended to be a gaming card first. Nowhere in their PR does it mention gaming. It isnt Geforce.

I cant help the fact that some people look at minivan and want to take it to a track and race. ;)

(Ick, that analogy)
Uhm nvlink maybe for unified memory. SLI is for the tasks needing graphics output(AFR,SFR,AA). I.e. you can't even enable SLI on gpus that are in compute mode and have ECC enabled.
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#152
Eric3988
You'd have to have more money than brains to buy this hardware in most if not all cases. $2,500 can buy you a very nice complete system from scratch along with a sizable collection of games when purchased on sale. AMD, the ball is in your court, give the world something that can compete with the 2080TI in non RTX applications. The world of GPU sales needn't be in this state forever.
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#154
GoldenX
As a Quadro replacement it's fine (no Quadro drivers?). As a gaming card, it's a joke, worse than previous Titan jokes.
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#155
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
trog100anyone that buys one of these just for gaming will have lost the plot... its not their intended purpose..

trog
It's not compute or pro-graphics either:
  • It only has 144 FP64 cores vs. 2560 of its own predecessor, the TITAN V, which is based on the V100 MCM
  • It lacks Quadro-like certifications for many Adobe and Autodesk applications (no serious studio would buy this over Quadro RTX 6000 even if the latter costs 2.5x more)
  • The only area where it works normally is AI and DLNN networks, but then it has no unique features vs. 2080 Ti, only a slightly higher tensor core count (576 vs. 544). Any AI researcher with natural intelligence would buy two 2080 Ti cards for $2.5k (1088 tensor cores)
This is just an e-penis gaming card so enthusiasts can get that single-digit percentage gain in OC leaderboards over those using 2080 Ti.
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#156
Fluffmeister
Yeah I guess at best it's a Radeon Pro Duo, it exist becuase it can. Although this will sell and that turd didn't.
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#157
gamerman
ROFL

+20% performance over 2080 Ti for +150% price.
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#158
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
EarthDogThat said, can you 'sli' these for compute in the first place? If this is coming from a gaming perspective I also understand the sentiment but believe it to be misplaced considering it isnt intended to be a gaming card first. Nowhere in their PR does it mention gaming. It isnt Geforce.
That must be why the Vega 64 will probably still have more double-precision compute power? :kookoo:
96 ROPs and 288 TMUs doesn't scream "compute" to me either.
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#159
EarthDog
AquinusThat must be why the Vega 64 will probably still have more double-precision compute power? :kookoo:
96 ROPs and 288 TMUs doesn't scream "compute" to me either.
What do you want me to say? Nowhere does nvidia say gaming here. It isnt geforce. It's a crossover card that outside of dp performs faster than the last titan for less. There isn't any getting around this I formation.

How people want to twist it is on them. :)
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#160
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Ask yourself this. If this wasn't a gaming card, why does it feature the dual-fan cooler from the 2080 Ti and not the leaf-blower cooler from the Quadro RTX 6000? Why does NVIDIA call this the ultimate "PC" card and not the ultimate "Workstation" card? Why does this card disqualify as a compute accelerator for lacking DPFP performance (negligible FP64 cores just so apps don't crash don't count)? Where are the Adobe/Autodesk certifications Quadros have?

NVIDIA deliberately omitted "gaming" from its marketing, and tasked its "pro graphics" division to handle this card's sales, as an elaborate strategy to target just one group of consumers: e-penis seekers or leaderboard toppers, who wouldn't mind spending 2x the price of a 2080 Ti to stay on top of leaderboards. If it called this a "gaming" card, the PC DIY media would have heaped bad press for its atrocious pricing. This is also why after Maxwell, NVIDIA dropped "GeForce" from the TITAN branding. AI researchers would be suckers to buy this card instead of two 2080 Ti.
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#161
bajs11
EarthDogIt is an upgrade in performance though. Its just that price/perf. ratio that people get hung up on. Clearly they are better performing cards.
imo its only natural to compare the upgrade to the RTX cards to the upgrades made in the last two or three generations.
I don't think anyone is complaining about the performance of the cards but the performance gains of the RTX cards are just not big enough compared to the price increase.

In the previous generations you see a cheaper gpu outperforming a higher priced and higher tier GPU of the previous gen:
GTX 970 faster than GTX 780
GTX 1070 in many cases faster than gtx 980Ti and clearly faster than gtx 980
both of the xx70 cards cost much less than the X80/X80ti cards of the previous gen

with Turing you are paying the same or close to the msrps of the previous higher tier cards
with the 2080ti essentially becoming a GTX Titan class card while creating a whole new class of super expensive Titan cards
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#162
EarthDog
bajs11I don't think anyone is complaining about the performance of the cards but the performance gains of the RTX cards are just not big enough compared to the price increase.
Agreed.

Price to performance isn't good. At all. We get that (over and over and over). But again, Its a Titan. Nobody expects it to have that. The rest of the line, a different story. A dissapointment on that front for sure. I don't think anyone disagrees with that sentiment...

...preaching to the choir... etc.
btarunrAsk yourself this. If this wasn't a gaming card, why does it feature the dual-fan cooler from the 2080 Ti and not the leaf-blower cooler from the Quadro RTX 6000? Why does NVIDIA call this the ultimate "PC" card and not the ultimate "Workstation" card? Why does this card disqualify as a compute accelerator for lacking DPFP performance (negligible FP64 cores just so apps don't crash don't count)? Where are the Adobe/Autodesk certifications Quadros have?

NVIDIA deliberately omitted "gaming" from its marketing, and tasked its "pro graphics" division to handle this card's sales, as an elaborate strategy to target just one group of consumers: e-penis seekers or leaderboard toppers, who wouldn't mind spending 2x the price of a 2080 Ti to stay on top of leaderboards. If it called this a "gaming" card, the PC DIY media would have heaped bad press for its atrocious pricing. This is also why after Maxwell, NVIDIA dropped "GeForce" from the TITAN branding. AI researchers would be suckers to buy this card instead of two 2080 Ti.
What? Workstation level cards don't need cooled too? That is a peculiar talking point...Are there any NVIDIA branded blower RTX cards or all AICs?

RE: The second paragraph, that is your opinion on it and I respect that. We disagree (except your last sentence that is the better 'deal' but only for DP uses). It is just that simple.
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#163
bajs11
or i can see this kind of debates a bit similar to political and religious debates
nobody is absolutely right everyone has their own opinions and interpretations :D
I am sure there are those who are absolutely stoked on the rtx cards, remember that "just buy it" article? :D
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#164
Ubersonic
So basically what we have established over the course of this thread is that, it costs ~2.5 the price of the 2080ti which will perform no different (to human perception) in games, and it is ~£400 cheaper than the Titan-V albiet with only 10% of the compute performance.

So in essence it isn't aimed at gamers like the Titan/Titan Black/Titan X cards were or at professionals like the Titan V is. It's aimed at people with lots of money who want something that exists purely to show off how much money they have. Meh, could get a 2080ti gold plated for less xD
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#165
EarthDog
1. It costs 2x, not 2.5x (that would $3K)
2. It is rumored to have 15% gains just by hardware according to Anandtech. Assuming that is true, 15% is pretty noticeable... in fact that difference is close to an entire tier of card. But gaming isn't its primary function anyway.
3. Its a crossover card and helps (heh) with market segmentation.
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#166
medi01
Oh boy I enjoy this trend so much.
And with AMD not even trying to go beyond 2070, it will only get better.
/grins
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#167
trog100
we will see when someone gets their hand on one.. but gaming wise i cant see 15 %..

trog
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#168
EarthDog
Me either... even if its 10% that is still a difference in a tier of cards. 5%... that will be disappointing for those who choose to game on these as a primary use.
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#169
GoldenX
EarthDogWhat? Workstation level cards don't need cooled too? That is a peculiar talking point...Are there any NVIDIA branded blower RTX cards or all AICs?
True workstation card don't try to be "gamer silent".
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#170
Dr_b_
diatribeThe market can't self-regulate Monopolies or Oligopolies than conspire to price fix.
While true that self regulating doesn't prevent that, price fixing doesn't apply to nVidia, they are not colluding with a competitor, they are price setting because there is no competition at that level for that unique product. nVidia also sells 1060's and even lower models that cost a fraction of T-ReX.

They also aren't a monopoly, AMD does indeed sell GPU's, albeit of lesser performance at least at this time to nVidias top offering, and so does intel (iGPU). Because you can't afford the nicer product, that does not mean a company should be forced to sell it a lower cost, or as some have suggested "broken up".

We need regulation, but you really don't want to live in a country where the government forces price structure on companies
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#171
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
EarthDogWhat do you want me to say? Nowhere does nvidia say gaming here. It isnt geforce. It's a crossover card that outside of dp performs faster than the last titan for less. There isn't any getting around this I formation.

How people want to twist it is on them. :)
That's more of a technicality than anything else. It looks, feels, and tastes like all of the other RTX chips. The only difference is that you're paying a "professional" price. You don't need to say it's for gaming or not. There is such thing as reading between the lines (the ROP and TMU counts plus crap DP performance should be a dead giveaway.) @btarunr is right, any person doing AI or processing large amounts of data with HPC hardware would be a fool to not spend the same money on two 2080 Tis instead if you need nVidia for CUDA or something. What nVidia has done is nothing more than wordplay, because you know, actions speak louder than words.
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#172
efikkan
GoldenXTrue workstation card don't try to be "gamer silent".
Well, gaming PCs are usually the ones not being silent.
Workstations are for the most part relatively silent, at least for an office environment.
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#173
trog100
AquinusThat's more of a technicality than anything else. It looks, feels, and tastes like all of the other RTX chips. The only difference is that you're paying a "professional" price. You don't need to say it's for gaming or not. There is such thing as reading between the lines (the ROP and TMU counts plus crap DP performance should be a dead giveaway.) @btarunr is right, any person doing AI or processing large amounts of data with HPC hardware would be a fool to not spend the same money on two 2080 Tis instead if you need nVidia for CUDA or something. What nVidia has done is nothing more than wordplay, because you know, actions speak louder than words.
that must make a pair of 2080 ti cards good value then.. he he

trog
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#174
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
trog100that must make a pair of 2080 ti cards good value then.. he he
A better deal than a dinosaur anyways. :laugh:
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#175
Patriot
FluffmeisterThey aren't stupid enough try and bring HBM to a consumer part yet.
AMD was first to go HBM and when everyone followed suit with 6k fpga's and 10k gpus... the memory suppliers cranked the price 4x making AMD unable to launch it at $300 as planned.
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