Wednesday, December 6th 2017

Microsoft's Edge Browser Confirmed Dead; Long Live Microsoft Edge

So, it goes like this: Microsoft has confirmed they will be killing of their own-developed Edge browser in favor of a Chromium-based alternative. However... The new browser will retain Microsoft's Edge nomenclature, instead of parting ways with the (likely damaged) branding. Microsoft is committing to the open-based Chromium backbone, and will be building upon its database to contribute towards a more open Internet.

The idea is to deliver more frequent updates - and of course, reducing the engineering and coding efforts to keep an in-house browser up to date and secure from all manner of Internet threats. And this will likely be achieved; whether Microsoft's efforts will bring it a higher market share than the current 4%, though, is anyone's guess. It seems to be a usual Microsoft dilemma in that the first search on its browsers is for another web browser... And it might remain especially so without a branding change. Living in Chrome just sounds better than living on Edge.
Sources: Microsoft Blogs, Image via TechCrunch
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102 Comments on Microsoft's Edge Browser Confirmed Dead; Long Live Microsoft Edge

#1
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Thing is any browser made by MS will be shunned and feared no matter the name.
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#2
Vayra86
"Living in Chrome just sounds better than living on Edge. "
You're getting pretty good at this.
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#3
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
Anyone else bugged by the fact that there is an open parentheses with no closing parentheses?
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#4
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
So, headline is deceptive.

According to the VP Belfiore, the transition will be transparent with Chromium code going on under the hood, still be called Edge, and users can keep on using Edge as they always have.
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#5
neatfeatguy
newtekie1 said:
Anyone else bugged by the fact that there is an open parentheses with now closing parentheses?
Don't you mean "no closing parentheses?"

That's it! I can't take this anymore. There all making spelling mistakes and grammar errors. Your all bad at this!
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#6
Vayra86
neatfeatguy said:
There all making spelling mistakes and grammar errors. Your all bad at this!
Ouch :)
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#7
StrayKAT
Yeah, that sucks. I know it's just a rendering engine, but it's beneath them. I've ranted enough about Nadella and MS' current direction in the other thread, so I'll cut it short.

edit: Wait, on a sidenote, both Chrome and Edge are stupid names for browsers. So the only good thing I see from this is possibly changing back to "Explorer". Google started the trend of stupid browser names though. Before it was "Navigator", "Explorer", etc.. Even Safari kind of fits the exploration motif. But wtf is "Chrome"?
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#8
TheOne
I already have Chrome installed, though maybe that is the point.
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#9
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
StrayKAT said:
edit: Wait, on a sidenote, both Chrome and Edge are stupid names for browsers. So the only good thing I see from this is possibly changing back to "Explorer".
Go to the source article. As I mentioned in my post above, it is keeping the Edge name, and current Edge users will find they don’t even notice the under the hood changes.

The best part is W7 and W8.1 will get Edge now. Looks like Internet Explorer will disappear eventually, then.
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#10
theoneandonlymrk
neatfeatguy said:
Don't you mean "no closing parentheses?"

That's it! I can't take this anymore. There all making spelling mistakes and grammar errors. Your all bad at this!
Nah not all of us ,sum of us no how to spell at least:p

I am with explorer guy, make explorer the portal to everything ,then adoption would slowly increase as people would just make do ,due to it's convenience.
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#11
StrayKAT
rtwjunkie said:
Go to the source article. As I mentioned in my post above, it is keeping the Edge name, and current Edge users will find they don’t even notice the under the hood changes.

The best part is W7 and W8.1 will get Edge now. Looks like Explorer will disappear eventually, then.
Then it sucks even more. The biggest software company in the world shouldn't need to make things like this. Nor it does it need to make all of these overtures or be nice to Open Source.

And while not entirely Google related, I hate everything associated with them. The same way everyone thinks of Microsoft is how I think of Google. They are the AIDS of the internet.
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#12
neatfeatguy
TheOne said:
I already have Chrome installed, though maybe that is the point.
Just setup Windows 10 on a new laptop the daughter is getting for Christmas. First thing I did, use IE/Edge to download Chrome. I then went and disabled Edge from being able to be used. I did the same thing on my Plex server that runs Win 10, downloaded Chrome and then disabled Edge.

Personally, I haven't really given Edge a chance, but I greatly dislike IE and only use it for 1 thing at work - to access a couple of the wireless cameras because the extension in Chrome doesn't work properly and FF doesn't work with the software.

My kids use Chrome on my computer, so I figure I'd keep her laptop with something she's familiar with.
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#13
natr0n
Seeing how Chrome collects data and how Microsoft just announced they will share all the tech they have with US military... This isn't surprising.
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#14
StrayKAT
natr0n said:
Seeing how Chrome collects data and how Microsoft just announced they will share all the tech they have with US military... This isn't surprising.
Google's very origins are tied to this. It's disgusting.

Everything is pozzed.
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#15
Darmok N Jalad
I wonder if this is part of a greater mobile strategy for MS. On W10M, Edge/IE did ok, but it ran into significant compatibility issues when a website didn’t recognize the browser. To mitigate that, MS would allow their browser to pretend to be Chrome. That would create a new problem where the website would think you were running Android and suggest their app instead of the website. Tapping on that would result in a bounce to the Play store website and the bad news that your device wasn’t supported. Also, Chrome would update so often that the W10M spoofed browser trick would often result in a “update your browser” message from the website because the spoofed version was too old. Long story short, this eliminates the disparities MS runs into by being the smaller browser share, especially on mobile. Maybe it’s another move to work better on Android?
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#16
R-T-B
rtwjunkie said:
So, headline is deceptive.

According to the VP Belfiore, the transition will be transparent with Chromium code going on under the hood, still be called Edge, and users can keep on using Edge as they always have.
Pretty much the same thing. Trdent, the core of what was ie and became edge, is dead. It may as well be a monarch change if ever there was one, hence the "long live edge" phrasing.
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#17
lynx29
So Firefox and Chrome are really the only two browsers left to use unique code? I use Vivaldi now but it is chromium based as well. I have some sites that don't work and I have to use Edge for those rare sites... :/
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#18
R-T-B
neatfeatguy said:
Your all bad at this!
Intentional typo?

Either way, your (yes, intentional) right. :p

lynx29 said:
So Firefox and Chrome are really the only two browsers left to use unique code? I use Vivaldi now but it is chromium based as well. I have some sites that don't work and I have to use Edge for those rare sites... :/
No. There's always... I mean...

Text based browsers?
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#19
Mats
Three years later:

PRESS RELEASE
So, it goes like this: Microsoft has confirmed they will be killing of their own-developed Windows NT and will finally give in to a Chromium OS-based alternative. However... The new OS will retain Microsoft's Windows 10 nomenclature, instead of parting ways with the (likely damaged) branding. Microsoft is committing to the open-based Chromium OS-backbone, and will be building upon its database to contribute towards a more meh OS.
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#20
R-T-B
Mats said:
Three years later:
No. Wine's progress shows how impossible this would be. It's one thing swapping browser engines. Swapping OS cores is a LITTLE different...

Plus frankly, chromium-OS sucks.

I mean, to give you an idea, take ReactOS (basically the same thing you are trying to do) for a 5 minute spin... Enjoy Windows 2000!
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#21
mcraygsx
"reducing the engineering and coding efforts to keep an in-house browser up to date and secure from all manner of Internet threats. "

It is safe to say MS is not what it used to be. A top notch Software Company. Their CS department operates from India where you can get fake degree and certification for the price of a scooter. Microsoft has been replacing skilled staff with cheap labor from abroad instead.
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#22
Mats
R-T-B said:
No.
I forgot /s
I was suggesting a cut down Chromium OS alternative to 10 S ;) .


R-T-B said:
Plus frankly, chromium-OS sucks.
That's why I called it "meh"

My bad
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#23
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
neatfeatguy said:
Don't you mean "no closing parentheses?"

That's it! I can't take this anymore. There all making spelling mistakes and grammar errors. Your all bad at this!
I guess that is what I get for trying to post on the downlow on my phone while I'm at a client's.
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#24
londiste
Living in Chrome just sounds better than living on Edge.
WITNESS ME!
Shiny and chrome...
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#25
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
R-T-B said:
Pretty much the same thing. Trdent, the core of what was ie and became edge, is dead. It may as well be a monarch change if ever there was one, hence the "long live edge" phrasing.
Okaaaay. Semantics. Fact is Raevenlord made an intentionally deceptive headline that sounds as if Edge is disappearing.

Not a direct knock on him. All the news writers on TPU are falling into the same pattern lately with every other story.
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