Monday, April 1st 2019

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Availability Revealed

NVIDIA is expected to launch its sub-$200 GeForce GTX 1650 graphics card on the 22nd of April, 2019. The card was earlier expected to launch towards the end of April. With it, NVIDIA will introduce the 12 nm "TU117," its smallest GPU based on the "Turing" architecture. The GTX 1650 could replace the current GTX 1060 3 GB, and may compete with AMD offerings in this segment, such as the Radeon RX 570 4 GB, in being Full HD-capable if not letting you max your game settings out at that resolution. The card could ship with 4 GB of GDDR5 memory.
Source: VideoCardz
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27 Comments on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Availability Revealed

#1
s3thra
It'll be interesting to see how these will be priced. If similar in performance to the RX 570, and you're manufacturer agnostic, it would be hard to justify purchase if you peruse the second-hand market. The 570 has hit near rock bottom prices - I think in part due to the ex-mining cards which seem to have flooded the market.

In Australia (and elsewhere I would suspect) you can pick up a 570 on eBay (if you're lucky) for roughly half of what the retailers are asking for them new.
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#2
biffzinker
Does this mean Nvidia's Turing product lineup is complete from top to bottom? How low will Turing go?
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#3
tami626
s3thra said:
It'll be interesting to see how these will be priced. If similar in performance to the RX 570, and you're manufacturer agnostic, it would be hard to justify purchase if you peruse the second-hand market. The 570 has hit near rock bottom prices - I think in part due to the ex-mining cards which seem to have flooded the market.

In Australia (and elsewhere I would suspect) you can pick up a 570 on eBay (if you're lucky) for roughly half of what the retailers are asking for them new.
Yeah, I hope it'll be cheaper than the 570. Where I live, the 570 goes for around €150 new and €100 used. If the 1650 is faster and its price falls between those two, I would happily choose it over a used 570.
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#4
P4-630
The Way It's Meant to be Played
btarunr said:
its smallest GPU based on the "Turing" architecture.
No Turing GT 1630 ?
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#5
tami626
P4-630 said:
No Turing GT 1630 ?
I guess there is no demand. Especially with Ryzen's integrated graphics, who would waste money on a low-end dedicated card? :D
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#6
notb
tami626 said:
I guess there is no demand. Especially with Ryzen's integrated graphics, who would waste money on a low-end dedicated card? :D
Someone who needs video output in a workstation?
biffzinker said:
Does this mean Nvidia's Turing product lineup is complete from top to bottom? How low will Turing go?
No. There will be at least one more card below 1650 in the desktop lineup.
They may add some "Ti" versions after Navi launches.

Mobile lineup is incomplete as well.
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#7
bug
I think the real question here is this will be able to challenge the RX580 in performance.
It would be really cool get that level of performance from a x50 card, imho.
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#8
jabbadap
22nd is Monday, why would they release something on Monday. I hate Mondays, especially today's one... Well rant off, they probably will announce it before that and availability is from Monday. But then again it's not a any particular meaningful new high end gpu, so they probably won't bother really push all different silly embargo mambo jambos with it.
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#9
bug
jabbadap said:
22nd is Monday, why would they release something on Monday. I hate Mondays, especially today's one... Well rant off, they probably will announce it before that and availability is from Monday. But then again it's not a any particular meaningful new high end gpu, so they probably won't bother really push all different silly embargo mambo jambos with it.
These cards are interesting in that they will be found in many off the self PCs. As such, they make up the baseline for what the game developer will be targeting next. Pretty unexciting in every other way though.
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#10
jabbadap
bug said:
These cards are interesting in that they will be found in many off the self PCs. As such, they make up the baseline for what the game developer will be targeting next. Pretty unexciting in every other way though.
Well yeah, my expectations for this card is near rx 570 performance, without extra power. As such there should be passive/low profile skus out there. Nvidia have had tendency adding unnecessary 8-pin power connector to 120W tdp cards lately, so I really hope they won't mandate ~60W tdp cards to have one 6-pinner.
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#11
bug
jabbadap said:
Well yeah, my expectations for this card is near rx 570 performance, without extra power. As such there should be passive/low profile skus out there. Nvidia have had tendency adding unnecessary 8-pin power connector to 120W tdp cards lately, so I really hope they won't mandate ~60W tdp cards to have one 6-pinner.
I don't think Nvidia mandated that, it's just AIBs wanting to make their products look more overclocking friendly. My single connector 1060 6GB will attest to that ;)
And yes, fanless is what I'd love to see making a comeback in this segment.
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#12
jabbadap
bug said:
I don't think Nvidia mandated that, it's just AIBs wanting to make their products look more overclocking friendly. My single connector 1060 6GB will attest to that ;)
And yes, fanless is what I'd love to see making a comeback in this segment.
When Nvidia specs says one 8-pin, I count that as mandate.
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#13
bug
jabbadap said:
When Nvidia specs says one 8-pin, I count that as mandate.
Oh yeah, that. I was more referring to cards where Nvidia asks for one 8 pin and AIB use an 8+6 combo instead.
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#14
jabbadap
bug said:
Oh yeah, that. I was more referring to cards where Nvidia asks for one 8 pin and AIB use an 8+6 combo instead.
That would mean TDP being higher on the first place. I don't think there's single one gtx1660/ti which have more than one 8-pin power connector. Not really needed when max TDP setting is way lower than 225W.
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#15
bug
jabbadap said:
That would mean TDP being higher on the first place. I don't think there's single one gtx1660/ti which have more than one 8-pin power connector. Not really needed when max TDP setting is way lower than 225W.
Look at the example I gave you: 1060. It only needs one 6 pin, yet most designs are 6+6. Just because.
Anyway, I believe we have understood each other, let's try to get back on topic.
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#16
HisDivineOrder
If it includes the latest NVENC, I suspect a lot of streamers are going to look hard at this card for their streaming PC.
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#17
jabbadap
HisDivineOrder said:
If it includes the latest NVENC, I suspect a lot of streamers are going to look hard at this card for their streaming PC.
Well it probably have latest nvenc/nvdec hw available, I can't really see any reason why would they use some old revision of it.
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#18
GoldenX
jabbadap said:
Well it probably have latest nvenc/nvdec hw available, I can't really see any reason why would they use some old revision of it.
They removed it from the GT1030, something that would have made that card very usable.
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#19
lexluthermiester
tami626 said:
I guess there is no demand. Especially with Ryzen's integrated graphics, who would waste money on a low-end dedicated card? :D
People who have Intel CPU's and don't want to use the currently pathetic Intel IGP?
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#20
GoldenX
lexluthermiester said:
People who have Intel CPU's and don't want to use the currently pathetic Intel IGP?
Their IGP can encode. Performance aside, an Intel IGP is better than a GT1030 for normal use.
Now, of you need better drivers, or better performance than the IGP...
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#21
lexluthermiester
GoldenX said:
Now, of you need better drivers, or better performance than the IGP...
That's what I was referring to. For light gaming on the cheap, the 1030 is a good card.
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#22
GoldenX
lexluthermiester said:
That's what I was referring to. For light gaming on the cheap, the 1030 is a good card.
It is, on the condition that you had an Intel CPU. On a new build, I would go for the 2200G.
A 1630 would be nice, but let's see if Nvidia wants to spend the money.
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#23
lexluthermiester
GoldenX said:
A 1630 would be nice, but let's see if Nvidia wants to spend the money.
I'm betting that'll happen but likely late this year or early next.
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#24
GoldenX
There is a market for good <75w cards, I would like to have more options on it besides the rare 1050ti without a connector.
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#25
jabbadap
GoldenX said:
They removed it from the GT1030, something that would have made that card very usable.
Ahh I remembered wrong they added nvdec for gp108 not nvenc, predecessor gm108 lacked both. So while true it is possible, I still doubt they would remove it on tu117 though. Nvenc has been feature on GTX gaming cards.

lexluthermiester said:
I'm betting that'll happen but likely late this year or early next.
Yes, Nvidia rebranded mx100 series laptops to mx200 series, which sounds to me like there's no new entry level Turing gpu on the line up any time soon. But yeah maybe next year on 7nm EUV or even 8nm samsung mobile node.
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