Monday, August 26th 2019
AMD Ryzen 5 3500 to Lack SMT, Takes on Core i5-9400
As AMD's Ryzen 5 3500 processor is inching closer to launch, we learn more possible specifications of the chip AMD is designing to take on Intel's popular Core i5-9400/9400F processor. Late July, we learned that the chip will be a 6-core model, breaking away from convention set by past generations, of the x500 Ryzen SKU being 4-core/8-thread. Thai PC enthusiast TUM_APISAK, who has a fairly high hit-rate on unreleased products, predicts that the 3500 will be six-core, but lack SMT (it will be 6-core/6-thread).
The Ryzen 5 3500 will be clocked at 3.60 GHz nominal, with a boost frequency of 4.10 GHz. There's no word on other specs, such as L3 cache amount. A single "Zen 2" chiplet normally has 32 MB of it (16 MB per CCX). The main competitor from the Intel stable is the Core i5-9400 / i5-9400F, which ticks at 2.90 GHz with 4.10 GHz boost. The i5-9400F in particular has had a big impact in the sub-$200 segment, as it's been aggressively priced under promotions by various DIY retailers. The chip lacks an iGPU, but has the specs to pull a fairly powerful gaming PC. With the Ryzen 5 3600 at $199, AMD could price the new chip around $169-179.
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TUM_APISAK
The Ryzen 5 3500 will be clocked at 3.60 GHz nominal, with a boost frequency of 4.10 GHz. There's no word on other specs, such as L3 cache amount. A single "Zen 2" chiplet normally has 32 MB of it (16 MB per CCX). The main competitor from the Intel stable is the Core i5-9400 / i5-9400F, which ticks at 2.90 GHz with 4.10 GHz boost. The i5-9400F in particular has had a big impact in the sub-$200 segment, as it's been aggressively priced under promotions by various DIY retailers. The chip lacks an iGPU, but has the specs to pull a fairly powerful gaming PC. With the Ryzen 5 3600 at $199, AMD could price the new chip around $169-179.
85 Comments on AMD Ryzen 5 3500 to Lack SMT, Takes on Core i5-9400
Strange times, indeed.
Techspot has a review of a cheap B350 board running a 12 core 3900X, and the B350 can come close to 97-98% of the performance of a X570 board
www.techspot.com/review/1872-ryzen-9-on-older-motherboards/
So you really need like 50 bucks for a B350 or B450 board to run any of these cpus.
Just checked pricing and your still way off
MSI X570-A Pro $159
ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 $154
Gigabyte X570 UD $159
Asus Prime X570-P $169
Even buildzoid liked Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus $189
It easier to tell, I suppose there will be no Ryzen 3 SKU using Matisse core, these Ryzen 5 3500 will be the lowest end CPU without iGPU, replacing Ryzen 3 tier on last gen Summit Ridge.
6 cores is enough for 99.999999999999% of users, and its good enough for serious gaming at a low price
i5-9400F - 48k HUF ~ 162USD
R5-2600 - 42k HUF ~ 142USD
R5-2600X - 49k HUF ~ 165USD
R5-3600 - 66k HUF ~ 222USD
so I guess if you are a ubisoft fanboy and game on a 240hz monitor, then yes you would want SMT. But for most any other PC gamer, not so much. I mean we are talking one or two titles that benefit, the rest of the PC gaming market benefits from having SMT turned off.
Intel does the same thing so let's stop calling the kettle black shall you? Today it is considering the FX83** was needed from 2011-2017, and console development started growing outside of four cores.
At 1080p.
When GPU is 2080Ti.
3500, given it's clock speed, will likely perform very close to 3600 in games.
Seriously, though, imagine how much you'll lose with background apps eating at least a few percent (5+ easy JUST with discord) and you're all out of the threads...but the 3600 has 6 more. No SMT is a dead end even for budget cpus.
I can't wait for Ryzen 4000's...I hope they match my CPU by then so I know for sure when I have another 2 years of good performance.
I am at heart an AMD fanboi...I have built 4 Ryzen systems and have loved them all...I'm quite positive I'll be building a 3500 or 3600 Ryzen sometime...maybe in February when I'll be able to the 3600 for like $169.99 with $30 combo at MicroCenter (it's only $10 less than current price because of the $50 combo discount on the R 3000's) Because that's an attractive price to me.