Wednesday, November 20th 2019

NVIDIA Readying GeForce RTX 2080 Ti SUPER After All?

NVIDIA could launch a "GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Super" after all, if a tweet from kopite7kimi, an enthusiast with a fairly high hit-rate with NVIDIA rumors is to be believed. The purported SKU could be faster than the RTX 2080 Ti, and yet be somehow differentiated from the TITAN RTX. For starters, NVIDIA could enable all 4,608 CUDA cores, 576 tensor cores, and 72 RT cores, along with 288 TMUs and 96 ROPs. Compared to the current RTX 2080 Ti, the Super could get faster 16 Gbps GDDR6 memory.

It's possible that NVIDIA won't change the 352-bit memory bus width or 11 GB memory amount, as those would be the only things stopping the card from cannibalizing the TITAN RTX, which has the chip's full 384-bit memory bus width, and 24 GB of memory. Interestingly, at 16 Gbps with a 352-bit memory bus width, the RTX 2080 Ti Super would have 704 GB/s of memory bandwidth, which is higher than the 672 GB/s of the TITAN RTX, with its 14 Gbps memory clock. These design choices would ensure NVIDIA has a sufficiently faster product than the RTX 2080 Ti, without an increase in BOM, provided it has enough perfectly-functional "TU102" inventory to go around. There's no word on availability, although WCCFTech predicts a CES 2020 unveiling.
Sources: kopite7kimi (Twitter), WCCFTech
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130 Comments on NVIDIA Readying GeForce RTX 2080 Ti SUPER After All?

#101
Theliel
oxrufiioxo
Actually I barely get 60fps at 1440p in some areas with a 2080ti with ultra settings in RDR2 so it just depends I guess
That's just a case of a poorly / badly coded game.
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#102
oxrufiioxo
Theliel
That's just a case of a poorly / badly coded game.
I don't write engine code so I couldn't say.
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#103
Theliel
oxrufiioxo
I don't write engine code so I couldn't say.
There is no visual justification for such low framerates with such bad graphics and animations.
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#104
moproblems99
Theliel
Just as the RTX 2080 Ti/2070 Ti make little sense considering most games don't have such requirements and the majority of people don't use a native 8K 240Hz display.
Que? Not sure what the 2070 Ti is but anything over 1440@60hz requires more than than 2070S.
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#105
Theliel
moproblems99
anything over 1440@60hz requires more than than 2070S.
Does that include minecraft? Or do you mean anything released this year?
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#106
Live OR Die
Its not likely the card will carry both TI and Super and if it does would be more likely the other way around RTX 2080 Super Ti LMAO, this card will most likely be called something else Ultra maybe or 2088...
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#107
moproblems99
Theliel
Does that include minecraft? Or do you mean anything released this year?
I'd say anything worth playing but that wouldn't be entirely true. I don't play Minecraft so I don't know for sure but doesn't it run on a potato? I doubt people buying $500+ gpus are primarily thinking about Minecraft.
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#108
Berfs1
Chloe Price
1200 eur/usd is something I'd also guess, probably replacing the current one like Titan Xp did with Titan X(P).
Who knows, maybe a titan rtx super will also come out, with 18 GBps memory, and 2000 MHz core clocks (hypothetical lol), all under 375W
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#109
medi01
QUANTUMPHYSICS
Thus far I'm very happy with my purchase and have no buyer's remorse.
Good to know it, dude, thanks for sharing!
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#110
Blueberries
RTX Titan 2020 Z Ti Super Xc FTW3 Ultra Hydro-Copper OVERCLOCKED Hybrid Black Edition
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#111
Vayra86
moproblems99
It got bigger because they had to put so much RT and Tensor cores in it to even barf out the half baked RTRT that exists now. If they used all the die space for good stuff, it would have been a monster. Imagine if they did a 1680ti? Oh yeah, probably not many people would have bought the 2080ti. Or 2080. They took a large portion of the die and used it on stuff a large amount of people don't care for. I possibly would have a bought a 1680ti day one at the price they could have launched it at. Most definitely by now.



Of course they did. And they are absolutely loving life right now. If Big Navi is good, they can bank on these inflated prices.
There's also a bigger cache, which isn't the easiest bit to put on there, its effectively part of the tweaks to cater for RT as well.
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#112
John Naylor
It's been widely accepted that the initial prcing on the 2xxx seris was saying ... yeah, we do have no stuff but we want ya to buy out th existing stock of 1xxx vcards left in inventory 1st. When that happened, then price of all cards dropped into normal range ... except for the 2080 Ti. i can't help but wonder if the reason that the price has emained so high is that folks are buying them as fast as they can deliver them. In the face of 0 competition, there's simply no incentive to drop price on products that are not gathering dust on shelves.
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#113
bug
Blueberries
RTX Titan 2020 Z Ti Super Xc FTW3 Ultra Hydro-Copper OVERCLOCKED Hybrid Black Edition
I'm pretty sure you forgot a Pro, a Premium and a Gold/Platinum. Then again, maybe you were just trying to be concise :P
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#114
Super XP
I appreciate (To a certain extent) Nvidia for pumping out some nice powerful GPUs. But as powerful as they can be, I believe Games are not being properly coded nowadays to fully tap into modern GPUs from both AMD & Nvidia.
That's just what I see. Correct me if I am wrong.

Spoiler: "BUT..."
Though I am still pissed at Nvidia for trying to force feed GPP on its partners and consumers. :shadedshu:

Theliel
That's just a case of a poorly / badly coded game.
I have to agree. Its too bad games are not coded properly to fully take advantage of modern GPUs from both companies.
I am hoping the next gen Navi which is suppose to be included in the new next gen consoles Sony & M$, that game companies do a much better job coding. As much as I dislike console ports onto PC, it seems that is what is happening.

Nvidia releasing this card which is really not needed? And will most likely be over $1300? Does not make any sense. AMD has given them competition in the mid range to the point where Nvidia was forced to launch a Super series. Now a high end Super? Either they are having issues with the design of the new gen or there is 7nm shortage issues. Its a GPU that is really not needed, and therefor its being launched most likely for a cash grab.
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#115
xorbe
I guess this is nice for people that were about to buy a 2080Ti
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#116
Super XP
xorbe
I guess this is nice for people that were about to buy a 2080Ti
I can only imagine the high cost for this GPU, especially when there's a new 3000 series just around the corner based on 7nm. On top of the rumored Big Navi GPU by AMD which is said to be targeting the high end GPU segment.
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#117
oxrufiioxo
Super XP
I can only imagine the high cost for this GPU, especially when there's a new 3000 series just around the corner based on 7nm. On top of the rumored Big Navi GPU by AMD which is said to be targeting the high end GPU segment.
There's always something better around the corner. The problem is better has only come from 1 company for the last half decade.
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#118
bug
Super XP
I appreciate (To a certain extent) Nvidia for pumping out some nice powerful GPUs. But as powerful as they can be, I believe Games are not being properly coded nowadays to fully tap into modern GPUs from both AMD & Nvidia.
That's just what I see. Correct me if I am wrong.
Many are just console games with an emulation layer on top. So not properly coded to run on anything, but rather cashing in on previous hype. But there are (sometimes notable) exceptions.
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#119
QUANTUMPHYSICS
I forsee a $1500 price tag and the average 2080Ti dropping to $900 or $1000.

I'm glad I went and bought an FTW3 and a BLACK because I figured prices weren't dropping anytime soon. The 2080Ti is the GOLD standard of GPU.

I will not upgrade my computer anymore (except another 4TB SSD). I will wait till the next generation of CPU with DDR5 memory and a 4080Ti.
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#120
EarthDog
QUANTUMPHYSICS
I forsee a $1500 price tag and the average 2080Ti dropping to $900 or $1000.

I'm glad I went and bought an FTW3 and a BLACK because I figured prices weren't dropping anytime soon. The 2080Ti is the GOLD standard of GPU.

I will not upgrade my computer anymore (except another 4TB SSD). I will wait till the next generation of CPU with DDR5 memory and a 4080Ti.
I forsee this like all the other Supers... coming out at the same or less cost than the non-super version. I don't see this coming out at more than $1200.. then the normal 2080Ti's will drop below that.

About the only reason I see it being more costly is due to its flagship 'dont rent, pwn' status.
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#121
bug
EarthDog
I forsee this like all the other Supers... coming out at the same or less cost than the non-super version. I don't see this coming out at more than $1200.. then the normal 2080Ti's will drop below that.

About the only reason I see it being more costly is due to its flagship 'dont rent, pwn' status.
If this will happen (it's not confirmed it will) I'm betting on 2080Ti being discontinued.
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#122
EarthDog
bug
If this will happen (it's not confirmed it will) I'm betting on 2080Ti being discontinued.
Just as discontinued as the other non supers, sure.
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#123
bug
EarthDog
Just as discontinued as the other non supers, sure.
Afaik, only the 2060 has survived. Technically, the 1660 and 1660Ti are still with us, but they don't make sense anymore.
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#124
efikkan
Super XP
I appreciate (To a certain extent) Nvidia for pumping out some nice powerful GPUs. But as powerful as they can be, I believe Games are not being properly coded nowadays to fully tap into modern GPUs from both AMD & Nvidia.

That's just what I see. Correct me if I am wrong.
Games are usually produced like on a conveyor belt these days, crappy code "stitched together", barely working at launch, and then not maintained once it's shipping. But it's not only the utilization of modern GPUs that's bad, the code in general is bloated and buggy.
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#125
Theliel
moproblems99
I'd say anything worth playing but that wouldn't be entirely true. I don't play Minecraft so I don't know for sure but doesn't it run on a potato? I doubt people buying $500+ gpus are primarily thinking about Minecraft.
I've seen mincraft gameplay where 4 Titan Xp can't handle it at 4 K ... so many mods they flip...
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