Tuesday, July 21st 2020

AMD Higherup Confirms "Zen 3" Client Processor Launch Within 2020

AMD Executive VP for Computing and Graphics, Rick Bergman, in a company blog post, confirmed that the first client-segment processors based on the next-gen "Zen 3" microarchitecture will launch within 2020. "So, what's next for AMD in the PC space? Well, I cannot share too much, but I can say our high-performance journey continues with our first "Zen 3" Client processor on-track to launch later this year. I will wrap by saying you haven't seen the best of us yet," Bergman writes, in a blog post detailing AMD's renewed efforts to capture the consumer and commercial desktop segments with the new Ryzen 4000G and Ryzen PRO 4000G processor series launched this Tuesday.

A lot seems to be riding on the success of the Ryzen 4000G and Ryzen PRO 4000G segments, so much so, that the new processors are launched exclusively to the high-volume OEM channel, and will be available only through pre-builts from the likes of Lenovo, HP, and Dell. AMD in a recent press meet revealed that it finds the OEM segment about 5 times the size of the retail DIY segment, and the 4000G-series chips, with their integrated graphics and CPU core-counts of up to 8, are more relevant for pre-builts, at least initially. The company does intent to bring these chips to the DIY retail channel, although it didn't give out any tentative dates. Having launched the Ryzen 4000H and 4000U series mobile processors through 1H-2020, and now 4000G series desktop chips, the company hopes to make a dent with upcoming retail crests such as "Back to School," Black Friday/Cyber Monday, and Holiday. AMD had earlier disclosed in its Ryzen 3000XT press meet that "Zen 3" is coming this year, and earlier this month in a tweet by CEO Dr Lisa Su.
Source: AMD Corporate Blog
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19 Comments on AMD Higherup Confirms "Zen 3" Client Processor Launch Within 2020

#1
Caring1
HD Gaming?
So 720P? woo hoo.
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#2
AsRock
TPU addict
So we have cores, ok got that but what iGPU do they have ?. Aah maybe i am goiing blind or some thing but this seems to tell me next to absolutely nothing.
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biffzinker
AsRock
So we have cores, ok got that but what iGPU do they have ?. Aah maybe i am goiing blind or some thing but this seems to tell me next to absolutely nothing.
The iGPU is based on a tweaked Vega. The encode/decode video engine is from Navi and video output is from Navi I last read for the Ryzen 4000G mobile series. Should be the same for the desktop version just a higher TDP.
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#4
windwhirl
Caring1
HD Gaming?
So 720P? woo hoo.
What did you expect? It's an IGP, after all
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Caring1
windwhirl
What did you expect? It's an IGP, after all
1080p 30FPS but I must be dreaming.
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#6
AsRock
TPU addict
biffzinker
The iGPU is based on a tweaked Vega. The encode/decode video engine is from Navi and video output is from Navi I last read for the Ryzen 4000G mobile series. Should be the same for the desktop version just a higher TDP.
So nothing exciting then, but still lacks details.
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TheLostSwede
Caring1
1080p 30FPS but I must be dreaming.
That won't happen until we either get much faster RAM or some kind of local on-die/next-to-die memory.
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#8
yeeeeman
TheLostSwede
That won't happen until we either get much faster RAM or some kind of local on-die/next-to-die memory.
4700g with OC on its GPU and memory can do 1080p 30fps.
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watzupken
Caring1
1080p 30FPS but I must be dreaming.
That is certainly within reach of an iGPU, but of course at a lower image quality settings, and not in every single game out there.
TheLostSwede
That won't happen until we either get much faster RAM or some kind of local on-die/next-to-die memory.
I've seen video of people playing games like Shadow of the Tomb Raider @ 1080p with a Ryzen 2400G with slow ram, i.e. 2133 Mhz. Frame rates are around mid 25s. So with faster ram and higher clockspeed on the GPU, it is possible to hit around 30 FPS. While Shadow of the Tomb Raider is not representative of every game out there, but it is a fairly taxing game for GPUs and an indication of what an iGPU is capable of delivering.

Anyway with DDR5 being a year or 2 away, faster ram is not too far away.
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TheLostSwede
watzupken
That is certainly within reach of an iGPU, but of course at a lower image quality settings, and not in every single game out there.


I've seen video of people playing games like Shadow of the Tomb Raider @ 1080p with a Ryzen 2400G with slow ram, i.e. 2133 Mhz. Frame rates are around mid 25s. So with faster ram and higher clockspeed on the GPU, it is possible to hit around 30 FPS. While Shadow of the Tomb Raider is not representative of every game out there, but it is a fairly taxing game for GPUs and an indication of what an iGPU is capable of delivering.

Anyway with DDR5 being a year or 2 away, faster ram is not too far away.
No-one wants to play games at the lowest settings though...
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#11
ViperXTR
itching for 4700X already -__-
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#12
Xaled
Wow!
Even Covid-19 didn't slow people demand on getting Cloths and Shoes!!!
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#13
InVasMani
TheLostSwede
No-one wants to play games at the lowest settings though...
Depends on the game, but that's mostly true. I don't mind some compromise on settings to fair. So long as it's a pretty happy medium I don't mind turning some stuff down a bit hell some settings I prefer off in the first place regardless of the performance impact.
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#14
ST.o.CH
Wayting for tech reviews, plus at this moment would be nice to see cpus at 5Ghz overclocked on water from the red team.
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#15
prtskg
ST.o.CH
Wayting for tech reviews, plus at this moment would be nice to see cpus at 5Ghz overclocked on water from the red team.
AMD will have to go for custom node for such frequencies
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ST.o.CH
prtskg
AMD will have to go for custom node for such frequencies
There are two fronts, one for ghz by refining the same arch tech, that's Intel, and another for eficiency, that's amd.
Long time ago they play diferent rols, when Intel had tic toc and amd was struggle with fx series, now they switched places, Intel is continuously increasing tdp and ghz, amd, on the other side is catching up with nm shrinking, arch improvement and raising the ghz as they can. Maybe with zen 3, or maybe not. Time will tell.
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#17
Caring1
ST.o.CH
Wayting for tech reviews, plus at this moment would be nice to see cpus at 5Ghz overclocked on water from the red team.
Again.
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#18
watzupken
TheLostSwede
No-one wants to play games at the lowest settings though...
Agree. But we are talking about iGPU, not a dedicated GPU. Thus, we need to manage our expectations. Considering we get mostly slideshows in games when gaming on iGPU before Ryzen APUs, I have to give credit to AMD for making 1080p gaming possible, though there are compromises.
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#19
chstamos
While it's certainly impressive that a Ryzen 4700G with highly overclocked RAM will come close to an entry level Geforce 1050 (we're talking about an iGPU after all), is there any practical value to it? I can find a good 3200mhz set of 16GB ram for ~60-65 euros, while a 4400mhz set -with worse cas timings, at that- will cost me at least 180 euros, that's a hefty 120 euros price delta . And all that for geforce 1050 level performance. Which will be blown right out of the water with a simple discrete 130 euros geforce 1650 or RX570.

Is there any practical point to this other than a theoretical discussion of what these iGPUs can do, when paired with crazy expensive RAM you wouldn't have any reason to buy to begin with? If they performed at 1050 level with run of the mill 3200 or even 3600 ram I could see it being impressive, but investing in expensive ram seems to negate ... you know, the whole value proposition of buying an APU.
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