Tuesday, July 21st 2020

AMD Announces Renoir for Desktop: Ryzen 4000G, PRO 4000G, and Athlon PRO 3000G

AMD today announced its 4th Generation Ryzen 4000G and Ryzen PRO 4000G desktop processors for pre-built OEM desktops. The company also expanded its entry-level Athlon 3000G series and debuted the Athlon PRO 3000G series. The Ryzen 4000G and PRO 4000G mark the Socket AM4 desktop debut of the 7 nm "Renoir" silicon, which combines up to 8 CPU cores based on the "Zen 2" microarchitecture, with a Radeon Vega 8 iGPU. These processors benefit from the 65 W TDP and increased power limits of the desktop platform to dial up CPU- and iGPU engine clock speeds significantly over the Ryzen 4000U and 4000H mobile processors based on the same silicon. The new Athlon 3000G-series and Athlon PRO 3000G-series parts are based on a 12 nm die that has "Zen+" CPU cores.

All of the processor models announced today are OEM-only, meaning that you'll only find them on pre-built consumer- and commercial desktops by the likes of HP, Lenovo, Dell, etc. Not even the system-integrator (SI) channel (eg: Maingear, Origin PC, etc.,) gets these chips. OEMs will pair these processors with motherboards based on the AMD B550 chipset, although the chips are compatible with the X570 chipset, too. The Ryzen PRO 4000G processors are targeted at commercial desktops that are part of large business environments, and launches along with the new AMD PRO565 chipset. Since they are OEM-only, the company did not reveal pricing for any of these chips. They did however mention that for the DIY retail channel, they do plan to update their product stack with processors that have integrated graphics at a later time (without going into specifics of the said time).
On the consumer side of things, the Ryzen 4000G series consists of 8-core/16-thread Ryzen 7, 6-core/12-thread Ryzen 5, and 4-core/8-thread Ryzen 3 SKUs. The lineup is led by the Ryzen 7 4700G, which is endowed with the full 8-core/16-thread CPU clocked at 3.60 GHz, with 4.40 GHz max boost, all 8 "Vega" iGPU compute units (512 stream processors), and a stellar iGPU engine clock of 2.10 GHz. All this fits into a 65 W TDP envelope. The Ryzen 5 4600G is the mid-tier offering with a 6-core/12-thread CPU clocked at 3.70 GHz with 4.20 GHz boost, 7 CUs enabled (448 stream processors), and 1.90 GHz iGPU engine clock. The value-segment Ryzen 3 4300G packs a 4-core/8-thread CPU clocked at 3.80 GHz, with 4.00 GHz boost frequency, 6 CUs (384 stream processors) enabled, and 1.70 GHz iGPU engine clock. All three chips feature 65 W TDP.

Just like on Picasso, and Renoir Mobile, Renoir desktop supports external graphics cards with a PCI-Express 3.0 x8 interface—you heard right, no PCIe Gen 4. The PCIe subsystem hasn't been updated in any way. For the OEM business this makes sense of course, because AMD expects Renoir prebuilts to come without discrete graphics—that's their selling point. For systems with graphics card, OEMs are expected to use the regular Zen 2 Ryzens.
There are energy-efficient "GE" variants of these consumer chips that have 35 W TDP. The 4700GE is clocked at 3.10 GHz with 4.30 GHz boost and 2.00 GHz iGPU engine clocks; the 4600GE with 3.30 GHz CPU clocks that boost to 4.20 GHz, and 1.90 GHz iGPU engine clocks, and the 4300GE with 3.50 GHz base, 4.00 GHz boost, and 1.70 GHz iGPU engine clocks. These chips will feature aggressive power management to meet the 35 W TDP, performing on par with H/HS-segment mobile processors.

The "Zen 2" cores in all these chips feature 512 KB of dedicated L2 cache, each. The "Renoir" silicon has two quad-core CCXs, each with 4 MB of L3 cache that's shared among the four cores of the CCX. The 4700G/4700GE hence have 12 MB "total cache" (L2+L3 in AMD parlance); the 4600G/4600GE have 11 MB, and the 4300G/4300GE have 6 MB (an entire CCX is disabled).

The Ryzen PRO 4000G series consists of three models, the Ryzen 7 PRO 4750G, the PRO 4650G, and the PRO 4350G. The three feature identical clock speeds and features to the 4700G, 4600G, and 4300G, respectively; but top them with the AMD PRO feature-set that rivals Intel vPro. The AMD PRO feature-set includes AMD PRO Security, a multi-layered security system, including full memory encryption; AMD PRO Management (rivals Intel Active Management Technology); and AMD PRO Business support ecosystem rivaling AMD vPro SIPP.

New additions to the consumer-segment Athlon 3000G series includes the new Athlon Gold and Athlon Silver 3000G-series processor family. These chips are based on the 12 nm "Picasso" silicon that features up to four "Zen+" CPU cores. The Athlon Gold 3150 offers a 4-core/4-thread CPU clocked at 3.90 GHz (no boost), 6 MB of total cache, and 65 W TDP. Its energy-efficient twin, the Athlon Gold 3150GE, ticks at 3.80 GHz, with a much slimmer 35 W TDP. The Athlon Silver 3050GE is a 2-core/4-thread chip with 5 MB total cache, and 3.50 GHz CPU clocks. There are PRO variants of the three chips, too.

The Slide Deck follows.
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59 Comments on AMD Announces Renoir for Desktop: Ryzen 4000G, PRO 4000G, and Athlon PRO 3000G

#1
catulitechup
this athlon is very interesting and literally leave pentium dual core + ht aka pentium G56xx / 54xx in shame

more cores + better igp with possible better price

:)
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#2
TheLostSwede
For OEM's only? At least according to Anandtech...
That seems, odd...
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#3
shi0n
pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1266821.html
In Japan (Akihabara), AMD Japan has announced that the bulk version of the Ryzen Pro series will be sold at 11:00 am on August 8 (JST).
The price is as follows.
Ryzen 7 4750G JPY 39,980(~=USD 370)
Ryzen 5 4650G JPY 26,980(~=USD 250)
Ryzen 3 4350G JPY 19,980(~=USD 185)
10% VAT is not included.
Please note that prices in Japan are usually higher than USA
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#4
Mark Little
"The Athlon Gold 3150 offers a 4-core/4-thread CPU clocked at 3.90 GHz (no boost)..."

In slide 33, the presentation lists the Athlon Gold Pro 3150G with 3.5 GHz base and 3.9 GHz boost. Is there a non-Pro version without boost and 3.9 GHz base frequency? That would be cool but I can't find it anywhere in the presentation.
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#5
W1zzard
catulitechup
this athlon is very interesting and literally leave pentium dual core + ht aka pentium G56xx / 54xx in shame
These are Zen+ Picasso in case you aren't aware
TheLostSwede
For OEM's only?
Correct, for now. AMD has "definite plans for the DIY market, at a later time"
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#6
catulitechup
W1zzard
These are Zen+ Picasso in case you aren't aware
Yep but quad core is more better than dual core + ht, specially if both cpus stay in same frecuency

Next intel step is put core i3 quad core as new pentium :roll:

:)
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#7
Mats
I thought that (positive) reviews of retail CPU's would help selling OEM machines. By delaying the retail launch, AMD won't benefit from this as much I guess.

Also, I'm surprised that no one have complained yet about how underwhelming the IGP is, as in it's not fastest enough. :D I've heard that totally pointless argument for months now.
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#8
bug
Ok, AMD dropped the ball hard with these. Has anyone seen the price of X570/B550 boards? It just doesn't make sense to pair them with these CPUs.
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#9
Disparia
Cool. The A8-5500 APU in my home server is a decent performer considering its 8 years old but I'm certainly looking forward to an upgrade with a 4000 series chip.
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#10
Blueberries
Delaying non-OEM parts is a dumb move on AMD's behalf. There's still presently no reason a DIY builder would use AMD over Intel if they didn't need dedicated graphics. Maybe they're not desperate for that client-space but they're really dropping the ball by not providing an option to consumers that competes with Intel.
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#11
AsRock
TPU addict
TheLostSwede
For OEM's only? At least according to Anandtech...
That seems, odd...
Going by Steve ( GN ) said they are at first and will have to wait a little.
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#12
sn2x
PCIe 3.0 x8 seems a bit lame.
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#13
Fouquin
"Athlon Gold"

Ugh AMD that's so petty and gross. You made your point with interrupting Intel's chipset scheme, cut it out.
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#14
dicktracy
These slow toys don’t belong on desktop PC.
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#15
Lionheart
dicktracy
These slow toys don’t belong on desktop PC.
You don't belong on TPU with your AMD bashing BS, your presents here clouds the TPU servers with human malware.
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#16
Bee9
Lionheart
You don't belong on TPU with your AMD bashing BS, your presents here clouds the TPU servers with human malware.
Lol, look at his profile name and you see why you waste your breath.

back to the topic, I think this is a wise move to start with oem first.
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#17
Valantar
These being OEM only (even if just for the time being)... pisses me off so bad. The only things missing for my upcoming HTPC build are the motherboard and APU. Going Intel isn't an option as it would make even casual gaming a no-go unless I add a costly and loud dGPU. And I really, really don't want to postpone this build any longer. I've been sitting on the case and power supply for a year, have just had a custom mounting bracket made for my cooler, and now Renoir won't be available until some undisclosed future date? :mad::kookoo::shadedshu::banghead:
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#19
silentbogo
2.1GHz GPU clock? Even with puny 8 Vega CUs that's going to be one helluva fast iGPU if paired with fast RAM.
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#20
dicktracy
Lionheart
You don't belong on TPU with your AMD bashing BS, your presents here clouds the TPU servers with human malware.
Imagine thinking Vega and Zen+ is not slow by today’s standards.
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#21
Houd.ini
dicktracy
Imagine thinking Vega and Zen+ is not slow by today’s standards.
Imagine thinking these aren’t the same APUs that are currently giving intel a spanking on mobile:rolleyes:
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#22
xman2007
bug
Ok, AMD dropped the ball hard with these. Has anyone seen the price of X570/B550 boards? It just doesn't make sense to pair them with these CPUs.
a b350/450 would suffice just fine
dicktracy
Imagine thinking Vega and Zen+ is not slow by today’s standards.
Intel has nothing in mobile or desktop to match them though, what a curious comment :kookoo: also they are Zen 2, not Zen+ (2nd gen) like the Athlons, so they have enough CPU powarr
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#23
bug
xman2007
a b350/450 would suffice just fine
OEMs will pair these processors with motherboards based on the AMD B550 chipset, although the chips are compatible with the X570 chipset, too.
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#24
xman2007
OEM's, if you were to buy one for a budget build when they become available to consumers you could likely drop it into said B350/450 board, heck wouldnt surprise me to see OEM's throwing them into A320 boards with a bios update
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#25
Valantar
dicktracy
Imagine thinking Vega and Zen+ is not slow by today’s standards.
Vega at 2.1GHz ought to perform quite well for an iGPU, and certainly better than any other iGPU. As for the CPU cores, all the Ryzens are Zen 2. The Athlons are Zen+, but so what? They're dirt cheap.
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